Holocaust survivors invite Iranian President to see the death camps for himself

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lavikor201 said:
Oh please. Israel has been Jewish Land thousands of years before Islam. muslims conquered it and kicked jews off there land to.

Ah yes, that is why Israel is loaded with Jews with blue eyes and blond hair, right? Gimme a break. I'm not surprised that the majority of Jews in Israel are Khazarian Jews.

The immigrants drove them out? Jews were living there centuries before they were kicked out. its our land.

It was part of the Ottoman Empire before WW1. After the Holocaust, the immigrant Jews were determined to attain the "promise land" even if it meant killing and forming over a million refugees.

Compare the numbers. You must be kidding. Israel has not commited mass murder. What a dull statement.

So you've so low that you want to compare numbers? I expected better of you. Mass murder is mass murder. Comparing wont justify anything.

I think only Arabs think that. You offer 1 soldier who is jewish for 400 arabs... your telling yourselves that 1 jew is worth 400 arabs when offering that pathetic trade.

Most of the world thinks this (except Israel and Jewish-controlled United States). Do you want 400 Jews to be kidnapped so that a fair exchange is made then??
 
Most of the world thinks this (except Israel and Jewish-controlled United States). Do you want 400 Jews to be kidnapped so that a fair exchange is made then??

if 400 jews were kidnapped hezbollah would only release them for 10,000 arabs. because that is how they value life.

It was part of the Ottoman Empire before WW1.

Go study some middle east history. Jews have been living in israel since the exodus. long before islam or the quran. then islam conquered the holy land.... no the jews have taken it back. To be so ignorant to say that one nation taking another nation and establishing a state is bad... check your own history.

How did all these so called "MUSLIM COUNTRIES" become Muslim.... a lot more blood shed then israel has commited that is for sure!!!
 
and the killing of over 1,000 innocent peoplewithin a month in lebabon is great show of value for life. pathetic how people can ignore the death of other. pure and utter disgust how some people value the life of the lebanese people, just because they are lebanese.
 
How did all these so called "MUSLIM COUNTRIES" become Muslim.... a lot more blood shed then israel has commited that is for sure!!!

Wow. Great point.

and the killing of over 1,000 innocent peoplewithin a month in lebabon is great show of value
hezbollah used them as shields... they are the guilty party.
 
lavikor201 said:
if 400 jews were kidnapped hezbollah would only release them for 10,000 arabs. because that is how they value life.

Let's keep baseless speculation out of this. According to Israelis, 3 IDF soldiers were equivalent to 500 Arabs as see in the prisoner swap in 2000. If you want equality, let Hezzy kidnapp a couple of thousand more Israelis :D On a serious note, the majority of the 10,000+ prisoners were not even tried in court.

Go study some middle east history. Jews have been living in israel since the exodus. long before islam or the quran. then islam conquered the holy land.... no the jews have taken it back. To be so ignorant to say that one nation taking another nation and establishing a state is bad... check your own history.

1.) I find the Torah as false historical documentation for obvious reasons.
2.) I've checked my own history. Jews in Israel today are of European descent.

How did all these so called "MUSLIM COUNTRIES" become Muslim.... a lot more blood shed then israel has commited that is for sure!!!

Jews will never be grateful. When the Catholics in Spain were on a mission to make the Jews extinct, where do you think the Jews fled to? Muslim land!
As far as the spread of Islam, Dr Zakir Naik (who also debunked the Torah) can educate you:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yIMUoFPOk4Y

More info:
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=58
http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/sword.html
http://www.beautifulislam.net/tellmemore/islam_sword.htm
 
I've checked my own history. Jews in Israel today are of European descent.

Really? Sicne when... over 50% aren't according to there census. what are your sources? hatejews. org???

1.) I find the Torah as false historical documentation for obvious reasons.
and i find the quran to be false... lol...

On a serious note, the majority of the 10,000+ prisoners were not even tried in court.

neither were the israelis... to wrong make a right> is that the islamic mentality?

As far as the spread of Islam, Dr Zakir Naik (who also debunked the Torah) can educate you:
Any person who has a grip of hsitory knows how countries became islamic. israel is not the only guilty party of taking land. please get us some unbiased facts. you hate it when anti-islam sites are used.... i hate it when pro-kill infidels sites are used.

Roman, Babylonian, Egyption, and Greek records all prove the Jews existance as a majority in israel before islam.... your argument is baseless and pathetic.
 
on a serious note, i dont understand much about israel, so i was hoping if someone could help answer these questions or am i in the wrong thread?

how long has the state of israel been in existance? where were the jews before israel was created? why or how did they end up in israel? why did they decide to leave europe for the middle east? who funded the biggest migration of people ever in history from one side of the world to the other? is israel seen as a jewish super state? can non-jews be welcomed into israel? why is that israel is sometimes referred to as a zionist state? why has israel blocked of the palestinain people and made them live in ghettos and made them become prisoners in their own homes? why did uk and usa help fund arm the recent terrorist attack in lebanon?

there are so many questions that i cant seem to find an accurate answer to so i was hoping if people on this forum could help me find the answers.
 
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica][SIZE=+1]16 Important Facts About Jews, Arabs and Israel[/SIZE][/FONT]

1. Israel became a state circa 1030 B.C., more than two millennia before Islam.

2. Arabs from Israel first began to be called "Palestinians" in 1967 by Yasser Arafat and other Arab leaders, two decades after modern Israeli statehood.

3. After conquering the land in about 1250 B.C., Jews ruled it for more than 1,300 years and have maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300 years.

4. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem was the Jewish capital. It was never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even under Jordanian rule, (East) Jerusalem was not made the capital, and no Arab leader came to visit it.

5. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Bible, but not once is it mentioned in the Qur'an.

6. King David founded Jerusalem; Mohammed never set foot in it.

7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face Mecca. If they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing Mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem.

8. In 1948, Arab leaders urged their people to leave, promising to cleanse the land of Jewish presence—some 70% of them fled without ever being ordered by Israel to leave, most of those without ever having seen an Israeli soldier.

9. Virtually the entire Jewish population of Muslim countries had to flee as the result of violence and pogroms.

10. Some 650,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948, while about 850,000 Jews were forced to leave Muslim countries.

11. In spite of the vast territories at their disposal, Arab refugees from Palestine were deliberately prevented from assimilating into their host countries. Of 100 million refugees following World War II, they are the only group to have never integrated with their coreligionists. Most of the Jewish refugees from Europe and Arab lands were settled in Israel, a country no larger than New Jersey.

12. There are 22 Arab countries (with 800 times the land mass of Israel), not counting the Palestinian territories. There is only one Jewish state. Arabs started all five wars against Israel, and lost every one of them.

13. The Fatah and Hamas constitutions still call for the destruction of Israel. Israel has agreed under several proposals to cede most of the West Bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinian Authority, and even supported the arming of its police force after the Oslo Accords in 1993.

14. During the Jordanian occupation, Jewish holy sites were vandalized and were off limits to Jews. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian holy sites are accessible to all faiths and maintained in good order at Israel’s expense.

15. Out of 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions up to 1990, 97 were against Israel; out of 690 General Assembly resolutions, 429 were against Israel;

16. The U.N. was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues in the old city of Jerusalem. It remained silent while Jordan systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, and it remained silent when Jordan enforced apartheid laws preventing Jews from accessing the Temple Mount and Western Wall (Kotel).
 
Really? Sicne when... over 50% aren't according to there census. what are your sources? hatejews. org???

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and i find the quran to be false... lol...

What do you find to be true? Communist Mannifesto? Mein Kampf?

neither were the israelis... to wrong make a right> is that the islamic mentality?

Oh my! I though Israel was democratic. Thanks you for reassuring that I was wrong :D

Any person who has a grip of hsitory knows how countries became islamic. israel is not the only guilty party of taking land. please get us some unbiased facts. you hate it when anti-islam sites are used.... i hate it when pro-kill infidels sites are used.

Indonesia is the country with the highest Muslim population. Tell me what war took place that forced all the indigenous people to convert. Muslims ruled India for hundreds of years. They allowed free practice of Hindusim (though they banned the barbaric act of Sati), and today Hinduism is still a larger faith than Islam in India. Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe and America. What war is taking place that are forcing people to convert? Islam spread throughout Africa through cultural contacts via trade and Suffism. I'm not going to deny that conquests in Arabia played no role, but the idea of a montheistic god and the concept of equality really did play a major role.
 
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he posted his source. I am so saddened by this. 1/2 my family died in the holocaust. and neo-nazis are celebrated as good sources on jews.

What was his souce for post #49? If he uses biased source, then it's foolish of him accusing me of doing the same.
 
Salaam,

I think that the Iranina president should accept and then he shold invite them to go to Palestine to witness what is currently being done there...
 
Salaam,

I think that the Iranina president should accept and then he shold invite them to go to Palestine to witness what is currently being done there...

Comapring palestinian refugee camps to the holocaust... do you enjoy showing off your stupidity?
 
Comapring palestinian refugee camps to the holocaust... do you enjoy showing off your stupidity?


salaam,

like i said,since Ahmednejad is being asked to witness the capms,,should not these jews also be shown the actions of their own race..a second holocasut?

and did you know that wehn the jews were being gassed and burned and shot ,some poeple disbelief at that time,.,for they suported hitler.

I guess if you lived in that time you would be one of the nay sayers...
 
I didn't realize Jews were a 'race'...

You know something funny. I came here and I was in full support of the palestinians. a hardcore liberal so to say.

Many members here have changed me more pro-israel. not the jewish members. the radical members...
 
You were in favour of the palestinian people but when people started comparing the holacusat to the palestinian cause you change your mind. Oh well shows how much you were in favour of the palestinians if you change your mind on an online forum, where half of te people here are no even from palestine and are not in charge of palestine. so yeh well done, it must be easy to change your mind.
 
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I didn't realize Jews were a 'race'...
They are considered a race. Just like Arabs are considered a race.

This thread is hilarious since it managed to reach page 4 LOL.
 
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