Horrific Attack by Train Staff on Young Girl For Wearing Hijab!

[Umar001]

I dont see how me sending an email will help anything?

I think the valuable lesson here is Muslim Women, be careful when travelling and try not to travel on public transport. Us men too.

I don't say that this is all reliable, but whether it is or not thats still a lesson I'd take.

Guys, before you get married get a driving lisence.

 

[Panatella]

The story is pretty one sided, a racial attack it's not the first time it's happened.

You are right, the story IS pretty one-sided. similiar attacks happen all the time in train stations everywhere. I personally know two young white men that were held (and abused) because the 'looked' like hoodlums. I know a sikh held this way as well. The only reason this is news is that the media is in a frenzy right now about any news involving muslims. The story is very one-sided as you don't hear when the young white men are held, or the sikhs, etc.

Other passengers attack each other all the time. Gangs of muslim youths attack others and beat and rob them. Gangs of racial groups as well. Gangs of blacks attack whites. Whites attack indians. indians attack blacks.

Bush jr used his citizen's children as another children killer. (Army Rangers,Navy Seals,Delta Force,or Mountain Division are just a children for their loving parents)

What does this have to with anything? Since we are off topic, insurgents in Iraq kill civilians to ensure that others do not defy them. Can we get back on topic now?

It happens all the time, not just muslims Sikhs too are attacked for wearing a turban. As the look like osama!

True.

My experience here is that anything accusing muslims of crimes or wrongful acts is an unreliable source. If a source accuses others of wrongful acts against muslims, the source is 100% reliable. That seems to be a very popular way of looking at things on this board.

I also have noticed this. If a piece of news suggests a muslim did something wrong, many here claim the source is unreliable. If the same source suggests 'kafirs' did something wrong, the same people here suddenly view this a reliable news. Not to say that all people here do this, as many are also quite fair. Just as many do do this though.

I looked to see if I could find anything else on this.
If we are assuming that the BBC offers a relatively objective view, then their report was almost identical:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/5064704.stm

Thank you for your efforts glo. I did not find a differing story either.

 

[wilberhum]

My experience here is that anything accusing muslims of crimes or wrongful acts is an unreliable source. If a source accuses others of wrongful acts against muslims, the source is 100% reliable. That seems to be a very popular way of looking at things on this board.

You noticed that too!:giggling:

Discrimination is not a novel occurance. It is a world wide problem.:hiding:

 

[mahdisoldier19]

That taliban use children as human shields? I agree, that is disgraceful.

If you believed what you just said and if you were my brother in Islam, i dont know if i will get kicked out of this board for saying this. But you must be the most ignorant brother that i had ever come across, and if literally if i saw you in real life Akhi i will make dua to make your intentions pure.But Dont you ever in your life disrespect the taliban by saying they use children as human shields with belief that they do.

Akhi, learn the truth dont just believe the tabloids

This is all IF you agree with the statement you just put out.

 

[ACC]

If you believed what you just said and if you were my brother in Islam, i dont know if i will get kicked out of this board for saying this. But you must be the most ignorant brother that i had ever come across, and if literally if i saw you in real life Akhi i will make dua to make your intentions pure.But Dont you ever in your life disrespect the taliban by saying they use children as human shields with belief that they do.

Akhi, learn the truth dont just believe the tabloids

This is all IF you agree with the statement you just put out.

This statement proves what I said earlier in this thread.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Show me evidence

 

[Panatella]

If you believed what you just said and if you were my brother in Islam, i dont know if i will get kicked out of this board for saying this. But you must be the most ignorant brother that i had ever come across, and if literally if i saw you in real life Akhi i will make dua to make your intentions pure.But Dont you ever in your life disrespect the taliban by saying they use children as human shields with belief that they do.

Akhi, learn the truth dont just believe the tabloids

This is all IF you agree with the statement you just put out.

Your subtle suggestion as to what you would do if you met me in person gives me a few thoughts and questions to share. First, in future it might be best to observe a while before responding, less chance of saying something foolish that way.

Second, if a person is saying something that you don't agree with, at some point you should grow into your shoes and perhaps not resort to direct or subtle threats of violence. A mature approach may be to explain why you think the opinion is wrong.

Third, to say what you might do if you met me without knowing anything about me is well, foolish. You could end up being very surprised upon meeting me. I could be a 400 pound gorrilla, a frail old man, or something much worse. The questions to be asked are, if I was a 400 pound gorrilla, how would you attack me? And, if were a frail old man, would you attack me?

As far as the topic of this thread goes, I would like to elaborate on a question I asked earlier int his thread. The question was, "I wonder what the other side of the story is?" First, many many times things end up not being what they seem. Stories are misreported or blown out of proportion. Misunderstandings, etc.

Second, people sometimes lie. And sometimes people create drama, or over-react and create a dramatic scene by their response to something simple. I have witnessed this myself. I observed a few years ago a young lady being questioned no differently than many before her in the same situation. She over-reacted, created quite a scene and got herself and some other people very worked up. She was hyperventilating. The whole thing started with her accusing the person questioning of discrimination. She created the situation. It is the attitude, "I am special, and how dare you question me!?". Well, deal with it sister. Muslim, christian, black, white, paki, american, green, blue, you are no more special than the next person sitting on the train beside you. If the train security asks to see your ticket, or wants to question you, deal with it. The rest of us do. Stop whining.

 

[ACC]

Show me evidence

The evidence is in your previous post.

 

[noshaba]

i read this news and i ws completely shocked myself.....may ALLAH bring peace into the hearts of his nation INSHALAH

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Well, as long as we are believing whatever we read, then we accept that muslim terrorists arrested in Miami were going to attack the Sears tower, WMD were found in Iraq, and the Taliban use children as human shields.
No problem, I accept this version of events. This girl was discriminated against.

What is hard to accept about that? There are racial attacks on a regular basis.

 

[Panatella]

What is hard to accept about that? There are racial attacks on a regular basis.

You should read all the posts in the thread, this question is answered in my previous posts.
I will paste some here for you.

I personally know two young white men that were held (and abused) because the 'looked' like hoodlums. I know a sikh held this way as well. The only reason this is news is that the media is in a frenzy right now about any news involving muslims.

First, many many times things end up not being what they seem. Stories are misreported or blown out of proportion. Misunderstandings, etc.

Second, people sometimes lie. And sometimes people create drama, or over-react and create a dramatic scene by their response to something simple. I have witnessed this myself. I observed a few years ago a young lady being questioned no differently than many before her in the same situation. She over-reacted, created quite a scene and got herself and some other people very worked up. She was hyperventilating. The whole thing started with her accusing the person questioning of discrimination. She created the situation. It is the attitude, "I am special, and how dare you question me!?". Well, deal with it sister. Muslim, christian, black, white, paki, american, green, blue, you are no more special than the next person sitting on the train beside you. If the train security asks to see your ticket, or wants to question you, deal with it. The rest of us do. Stop whining.

Things arew not always as they seem. Even what appears to be an obvious story that is reported can turn out to be something quite different when you find the truth. I am not saying this story is not true, it very well could be. It also could very well be an example of a situation that I earlier stated as well.

It is a little hard to believe that the rail employees would be that stupid, but it is possible. So of course the possibility exists that she misunderstood and over-reacted creating a situation, or even for attention or drama.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Your subtle suggestion as to what you would do if you met me in person gives me a few thoughts and questions to share. First, in future it might be best to observe a while before responding, less chance of saying something foolish that way.

Second, if a person is saying something that you don't agree with, at some point you should grow into your shoes and perhaps not resort to direct or subtle threats of violence. A mature approach may be to explain why you think the opinion is wrong.

Third, to say what you might do if you met me without knowing anything about me is well, foolish. You could end up being very surprised upon meeting me. I could be a 400 pound gorrilla, a frail old man, or something much worse. The questions to be asked are, if I was a 400 pound gorrilla, how would you attack me? And, if were a frail old man, would you attack me?

As far as the topic of this thread goes, I would like to elaborate on a question I asked earlier int his thread. The question was, "I wonder what the other side of the story is?" First, many many times things end up not being what they seem. Stories are misreported or blown out of proportion. Misunderstandings, etc.

Second, people sometimes lie. And sometimes people create drama, or over-react and create a dramatic scene by their response to something simple. I have witnessed this myself. I observed a few years ago a young lady being questioned no differently than many before her in the same situation. She over-reacted, created quite a scene and got herself and some other people very worked up. She was hyperventilating. The whole thing started with her accusing the person questioning of discrimination. She created the situation. It is the attitude, "I am special, and how dare you question me!?". Well, deal with it sister. Muslim, christian, black, white, paki, american, green, blue, you are no more special than the next person sitting on the train beside you. If the train security asks to see your ticket, or wants to question you, deal with it. The rest of us do. Stop whining.

How about this. You disrespect the taliban with no evidence. Im not whining, im asking you to show evidence where taliban use people as shields and your telling me some 3 paragraph thing. And above all i could careless who you are, but when you criticize the group that put security into a country in which no nation in the WORLD could. You better have some facts.

 

[wilberhum]

You disrespect the taliban with no evidence.

No evidence? You would have to live in a cave to have "no evidence" or discount every credible news source.

 

[Panatella]

How about this. You disrespect the taliban with no evidence. Im not whining, im asking you to show evidence where taliban use people as shields and your telling me some 3 paragraph thing. And above all i could careless who you are, but when you criticize the group that put security into a country in which no nation in the WORLD could. You better have some facts.

Perhaps some smaller shoes may be a good start. Settle down junior. Just because you idolize the taliban doesn't mean everybody has to. You have your opinion of the taliban. Good. You are entitled to it. Do I care what it is? Not really. Do I care if the taliban hide among civilians? Well, if it's true yes.

You better have some facts.

Or What Junior?
But this thread has nothing to do with the toilyban. You picked a small bit of one post mentioning the tellyban, and you want to derail the thread to satisfy your obsession. Personally, I couldn't care less about the taliban.

Enough of you. Come back when those shoes fit. Back to the topic;
Alleged attack on girl by train staff.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

No evidence? You would have to live in a cave to have "no evidence" or discount every credible news source.

Well i currently reside at NYC as a UN worker so can you classify the evidence for me?

 

[lavikor201]

No evidence? You would have to live in a cave to have "no evidence" or discount every credible news source.

There is plenty of evidence against the Taliban. Just watch the videos of public executions of innocent people, whose only crime was to oppose there iron fist.

 

[ACC]

Well i currently reside at NYC as a UN worker so can you classify the evidence for me?

This is very frightening. You work for the UN? Hopefully you anger is not spreading to others.

 

[I R Paki]

If you believed what you just said and if you were my brother in Islam, i dont know if i will get kicked out of this board for saying this. But you must be the most ignorant brother that i had ever come across, and if literally if i saw you in real life Akhi i will make dua to make your intentions pure.But Dont you ever in your life disrespect the taliban by saying they use children as human shields with belief that they do.

Akhi, learn the truth dont just believe the tabloids

This is all IF you agree with the statement you just put out.

Im with you all the way.

 

[I R Paki]

There is plenty of evidence against the Taliban. Just watch the videos of public executions of innocent people, whose only crime was to oppose there iron fist.

Tell me, how do you know they are innocent ?

 

[ACC]

Tell me, how do you know they are innocent ?

Ah yes, this goes with what I have said in the past about many of the people that post here.

If a non-muslim is a accused of a crime, it is 100% reliable regardless of the sources. Evidence against a muslim is not reliable unless there are 3 million eye witnesses, 28 live camera angles, an admission of guilt by the muslim and God himself must come from Heaven and declare him guilty. After all of this, there is only a reasonable chance the muslim was guilty of a crime.....Truly Pathetic.