How big are we!!!?

[IbnAbdulHakim]

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Universe was made for man. You may see it as a lot of waste - but do you know how much humans benefited by studying the universe scientifically?

i was just wondering, theres so much humans dont know or understand. So much yet to discover, just as the sun brightens up our land and aids us greatly isnt it possible that each and every planet/star and rock in the universe somehow works together to aid the functions of our own solar system but we simply havent discovered enough to understand it...

 

[Woodrow]

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i was just wondering, theres so much humans dont know or understand. So much yet to discover, just as the sun brightens up our land and aids us greatly isnt it possible that each and every planet/star and rock in the universe somehow works together to aid the functions of our own solar system but we simply havent discovered enough to understand it...

The science of quantum physics seems to be verifying that. The movement of even one atom any place in the universe has an eventual effect on the entire universe. Sort of like the "Butterfly Effect" a butterfly flapping it's wings in South America can alter the weather in the rest of the world.

All though this quote comes from "Chaos Theory" it is a fair representation of some of the things the study of Astro-physics and quantum physics is now finding.

So it does seem probably that things we will never see are made for the eventual impact they have on us.

The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. So this is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.

The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.

Recurrence, the approximate return of a system towards its initial conditions, together with sensitive dependence on initial conditions are the two main ingredients for chaotic motion. They have the practical consequence of making complex systems, such as the weather, difficult to predict past a certain time range (approximately a week in the case of weather).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

A few words on Quantum physics:

As we are dealing with a scientific theory, it is necessary to begin by stating the central Principles of the 'Metaphysics of Space and Motion and the Wave Structure of Matter', which describe how Matter exists in Space as a Spherical Standing Wave and interacts with other Matter in the Space around it. From this foundation we can then deduce the solutions to many problems currently found in Quantum Theory caused by this ancient concept that matter exists as 'particles'.

Source: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Quantum-Theory-Mechanics.htm

although many of those studies are still only theory, observations are showing that every thing in the universe affects us and/or future generations. It all has a purpose.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

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^ WOWW!!!!! THANKS JAZAKALLAH KHAIR

that was an amazing read !!! AMAZING!!

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

It's a good sequence of pictures, that. I've seen it before and it's definitely very humbling. It doesn't convince me there is a god, but it does convince me that the universe is big.

Douglas Adams put it another way:

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

Peace

 

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:salamext:

Yeh but u saying all of that came about by chance...? Come on :-\

 

[sevgi]

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Greetings,

It's a good sequence of pictures, that. I've seen it before and it's definitely very humbling. It doesn't convince me there is a god, but it does convince me that the universe is big.

Douglas Adams put it another way:

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

Peace

lol...

at least u were convinced of something...

peace

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

:salamext:

Yeh but u saying all of that came about by chance...? Come on :-\

No, I'm not, but never mind.

If you want to debate the Argument from Design, I'm sure there are plenty of other places on the forum where you can do so.

Peace

 

[جوري]

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lol what's that supposed to mean?

Refer to these verses:

36:40

The obital system has been known to modern astrologists very recently, recently as in maybe a few hundred years. If that's not a sign from Allah then I don't know what is.

I don't think it makes much of a difference to an atheist.. what anyone considers a sign they consider superfluous.. as Allah states in various verses in the Quran, including suret Al Baqara

هَلْ يَنظُرُونَ إِلاَّ أَن يَأْتِيَهُمُ اللّهُ فِي ظُلَلٍ مِّنَ الْغَمَامِ وَالْمَلآئِكَةُ وَقُضِيَ الأَمْرُ وَإِلَى اللّهِ تُرْجَعُ الأمُورُ {210}​

[Pickthal 2:210] Wait they for naught else than that Allah should come unto them in the shadows of the clouds with the angels? Then the case would be already judged. All cases go back to Allah (for judgment).

The thing that commoves me however, is why they participate in topics, distinctly for the purpose of expressing astonishment at all the splendor of the universe and its creation only to certify that there is no God and then ask the members to go speak of 'intelligent design' one some other thread as this is not the place for it.. well if not here where? Perhaps the fiscal responsibility forum?.... but, I'll name it in two words 'unmitigated effrontery'


Ramadan Kareem to all the Muslims

 

[noodles]

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Greetings,

It's a good sequence of pictures, that. I've seen it before and it's definitely very humbling. It doesn't convince me there is a god, but it does convince me that the universe is big.

Douglas Adams put it another way:

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

Peace

Oh his novels were quite a good read I really enjoyed his sense of humor. They were very thought provoking too.

 

[siFilam]

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In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful ​

:salamext:.

Wow, SubhanAllah, the greatness of Allah (SWT) is evident through His Creation.
Can someone clarify this for me: These stars are in the first haven, right? And I know there are seven heavens that Allah has created. And His Throne “extend over the heavens and the earth” (2:255). So Allah’s Throne covers all heavens….Plz clarify this for me. Am I right? If I am, can you imagine how big Allah’s Throne is? How can we not be humbled before such greatness? SubhanAllah.


Wasalam
-SI-

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

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^ i thought about this greatly sister, and then i heard in an awlaki lecture and he used sources from ibn katheers al bidaaya wannihayaa which states that this whole universe will be roled up, and the earth will be stretched a great stretching as a simple plain surface where we stand before our lord.

You might be thinking what this has to do with seeing the stars right? Well im saying that the stars we see now could be the stars of jannah, but they arent in the form in which we'll see them in the hereafter. Remember we cant contemplate the beauty of anything in heaven, so how can something we can see be a part of heaven... right?


so i think things will form into how they are meant to be after the rolling up... inshaAllah


i could be very wrong :uuh:

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

The thing that commoves me however, is why they participate in topics, distinctly for the purpose of expressing astonishment at all the splendor of the universe and its creation only to certify that there is no God and then ask the members to go speak of 'intelligent design' one some other thread as this is not the place for it.. well if not here where? Perhaps the fiscal responsibility forum?.... but, I'll name it in two words 'unmitigated effrontery'

This is the General forum, not Comparative Religion. If you're not happy with me giving an opinion, fine - I couldn't care less.

Peace

 

[جوري]

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Greetings,


This is the General forum, not Comparative Religion. If you're not happy with me giving an opinion, fine - I couldn't care less.

Peace

Why do you quote me if you couldn't care less? the act of doing so seems to defeat its own purpose?!-- with that said, what makes you think my comment was directed toward you (CZ) and not an all comprehensive of you as well as others like you; who introduce themselves in a subtle manner only to impose that which they decry, i.e discussing some ancillary topic, injecting their own beliefs or lackthereof and then telling others to take their opinion else where?

 

[Pygoscelis]

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:salamext:

Yeh but u saying all of that came about by chance...? Come on :-\

I just admit I don't know. Its much more comfortalbe, and honest, that way.

 

[Sarada]

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This is fascinating beyond words. Where did you get these pictures?

 

[Haidar_Abbas]

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soubhanAllah waAllahu Akbar!

jizakAllahu khayr for sharin this

 

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*bump

 

[Ibn Al Aqwa]

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JazakAllaah...awesome, more than awesome...SubhanAllaah...

hard to even imagine...

Takbeer...

 

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:salamext:

Allaahu Akbar!

 

[Ibn Al Aqwa]

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^lol, Masha'Allaah...