How big are we!!!?

[CosmicPathos]

And now stop and ponder going in the opposite direction to the smallest particle of creation. We humans are approximately midway in size between the largest and smallest known objects. There is as much difference in size between you and the smallest particle as there is between you and the largest star.

Then reflect on the thought that Allaah(swt) knows the exact location of every particle created the smallest and the largest and also knows were each has been at any point in the past and were it will be at any point in the future.

How many subatomic particles do you know the individual exact loction of?

indeed. As I said previously, we are to cosmos what electrons are to us.

 

[Salahudeen]

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WOW SUBHANALLAH!! Do they not look at the heavens and all that is around them and ponder?? surely in this are signs for men of understanding.

Those who lie on their backs looking up at the sky and creation whilst thinking "our lord you did not create all of this for no purpose"


those words just came to my mind :hmm: if some 1 could find me the quranic verse where it says what I mentioned that would be great

 

[Alpha Dude]

^ It doesn't actually stop there. The milky way is just a galaxy. Galaxies sit in clusters of galaxies which usually are made up of about 50-1000 galaxies and the universe has many hundreds if not thousands of galaxy clusters.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr7wNQw12l8[/media]

 

[Salahudeen]

^ It doesn't actually stop there. The milky way is just a galaxy. Galaxies sit in clusters of galaxies which usually are made up of about 50-1000 galaxies and the universe has many hundreds if not thousands of galaxy clusters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr7wNQw12l8

subhanallah do you think there's life there??

maybe that's why in Fatiha we say "lord of all the worlds"

maybe there's many different worlds out there!!

 

[CosmicPathos]

subhanallah do you think there's life there??

maybe that's why in Fatiha we say "lord of all the worlds"

maybe there's many different worlds out there!!

From what I know from astronomy background, there is no evidence that life exists else where. Islamically I also dont think there is intelligent life out there.

 

[islamirama]

From what I know from astronomy background, there is no evidence that life exists else where. Islamically I also dont think there is intelligent life out there.

[SIZE=-1]"And among His signs is the creation of the heavens and the living creatures He has scattered through them." (42.29)

And: "The seven heavens and the earth, and beings therein, declare his glory." (17:44)

[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]These verses indicate that there is life in some form or other planets in the galaxies. Until scientific means become more sophisticated to make this discovery, this Quranic statement will remain an unfulfilled prophecy.[/SIZE]
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http://www.ummah.com/islam/taqwapalace/science/aliens.htm

 

[SMA89]

^ It doesn't actually stop there. The milky way is just a galaxy. Galaxies sit in clusters of galaxies which usually are made up of about 50-1000 galaxies and the universe has many hundreds if not thousands of galaxy clusters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr7wNQw12l8

Yup theres billions of galaxies out there.. It kind of scares me to see how small we actually are.
I also want to know whats out there but the technology we have today is not good enough to understand and see the whole universe . So I try not to think about it at all.

 

[جوري]

“My heavens and my earth cannot encompass me, only the heart
of My faithful servant can encompass Me.” Hadith Qudsi
for those of you feeling small!

 

[CosmicPathos]

[SIZE=-1]"And among His signs is the creation of the heavens and the living creatures He has scattered through them." (42.29)

And: "The seven heavens and the earth, and beings therein, declare his glory." (17:44)

[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]These verses indicate that there is life in some form or other planets in the galaxies. Until scientific means become more sophisticated to make this discovery, this Quranic statement will remain an unfulfilled prophecy.[/SIZE]
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http://www.ummah.com/islam/taqwapalace/science/aliens.htm

If intelligent life exists else where then it necessitates the conclusion that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is not the last prophet, which of course is wrong. How did I arrive to this conclusion? We have no evidence that Prophet Muhammad pbuh gave his message to intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. He is the last Prophet for mankind (and for every sort of life). If intelligent life exists elsewhere, are they aware of the Quran? if yes then how did they get the Quran? No hadith reports that Prophet Muhammad pbuh travelled intergalactically. The story of Miraj is to the heavens but Prophet Muhammad pbuh never met alien life in the Miraj. So surely Allah swt would not leave this aliens to misguidance and would have sent them Prophets too. But we know all Prophets were sent to man, as mentioned in Quran, none was sent for intelligent life outside of Earth. So there are two possibilities: 1- intelligent life does not exist, 2- It exists and Allah swt sent them Prophets but did not tell us in the Quran. 2 seems implausible because Quran tells us that Muhammad pbuh is Prophet for all the "worlds." These worlds surely contain "alien worlds" if they existed ...

Of course, jinns could traverse the galaxies and they are the only intelligent life I can fathom of in the universe aside from us.

 

[جوري]

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Any Idea what all that space is used for?

would you like to live here:

or here:

if you can help it?

lol at some of the questions that atheists ask.. as puny as their minds are puny!

 

[CosmicPathos]

Another aspect is the dark matter! Most of the universe is made of dark matter which we can neither see or observe at the moment and can only detect indirectly ... Imagine the possibilities .... puts me in awe and desiring of being able to travel from one end to the other in my lifetime which is only wishful thinking.... .... Forget renting out a Cessna to flyby the mighty Himalayans for mystical experiences, talk about dwelling in the super novae

 

[islamirama]

If intelligent life exists else where then it necessitates the conclusion that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is not the last prophet, which of course is wrong. How did I arrive to this conclusion? We have no evidence that Prophet Muhammad pbuh gave his message to intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. He is the last Prophet for mankind (and for every sort of life). If intelligent life exists elsewhere, are they aware of the Quran? if yes then how did they get the Quran? No hadith reports that Prophet Muhammad pbuh travelled intergalactically. The story of Miraj is to the heavens but Prophet Muhammad pbuh never met alien life in the Miraj. So surely Allah swt would not leave this aliens to misguidance and would have sent them Prophets too. But we know all Prophets were sent to man, as mentioned in Quran, none was sent for intelligent life outside of Earth. So there are two possibilities: 1- intelligent life does not exist, 2- It exists and Allah swt sent them Prophets but did not tell us in the Quran. 2 seems implausible because Quran tells us that Muhammad pbuh is Prophet for all the "worlds." These worlds surely contain "alien worlds" if they existed ...
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Your belief is based on your limited knowledge and assumptions.

Allah sends Messengers from your own people to guide you. Prophet Muhammad (S) was a human and would be the last Messenger to MANkind.

Please show proof as to where it says Prophet Muhammad (S) was sent as prophet for all 'worlds' because he was not. Prophet Solomon was sent as a prophet for his people (humans) and for jinns (jinn world). He was given ability to talk to animals but he was not sent as a prophet to them.

Life is out there as Allah says we have created heavens and earth and spread life therein. As for it being intelligent or not, that is hidden knowledge that we do not have. Best leave that topic alone...

 

[Dagless]

Your belief is based on your limited knowledge and assumptions.

Allah sends Messengers from your own people to guide you. Prophet Muhammad (S) was a human and would be the last Messenger to MANkind.

Please show proof as to where it says Prophet Muhammad (S) was sent as prophet for all 'worlds' because he was not. Prophet Solomon was sent as a prophet for his people (humans) and for jinns (jinn world). He was given ability to talk to animals but he was not sent as a prophet to them.

Life is out there as Allah says we have created heavens and earth and spread life therein. As for it being intelligent or not, that is hidden knowledge that we do not have. Best leave that topic alone...

I believe the brother is speaking of 21:107 - "And we have sent you not but as a mercy for the Alamin".

The word Alamin encompasses everything in existence except Allah and therefore would cover aliens also.

edit: This confused me too because as far as I knew the Quran was written for humans and jinn (which I still think it is), but I suppose he has a point about the prophet (pbuh) not visiting other planets etc. I don't think this ends the argument either way though.

 

[islamirama]

Lets say Prophet (S) was sent for Jinns and Humans but what about angels? sine alamin includes all of the creation. Anyways, i guess we can say there is life out there but whether intelligent or not is another matter.

Al-`Alamin is plural for `Alam, which encompasses everything in existence except Allah. The word `Alam is itself a plural word, having no singular form. The `Alamin are different creations that exist in the heavens and the earth, on land and at sea. Every generation of creation is called an `Alam. Al-Farra` and Abu `Ubayd said, "`Alam includes all that has a mind, the Jinns, mankind, the angels and the devils, but not the animals.'' Also, Zayd bin Aslam and Abu Muhaysin said, `Alam includes all that Allah has created with a soul.''

 

[Woodrow]

When I was living in Texas and had my "Monster" PC hooked up I was very active in SETI and did quite a bit of number crunching for them. My section of the sky was no more than a pin head to the naked eye, but contained millions (Millions) of galaxies (galaxies, not single stars) in that little space there are trillions of stars, of course the closest ones to us are many thousands of light years distance from us.

When we look out into deep space the distances are so vast we are not seeing what is, we are seeing what was. The closest star to us, (Excluding the Sun) is Alpha Centauri and it is approximately 3 light years distance from us. When we view it, we are seeing it as it was 3 years ago, not as it is today.

If it does turn out there is intelligent outside earth it most likely will be a minimum of 10,000 years light years distance from us. If some how we got any radio communication from them, it will be at least 10,000 years old by the time it reaches us. Communication with extraterrestrial life, if it exists, does not seem to be very probable.

 

[Dagless]

Lets say Prophet (S) was sent for Jinns and Humans but what about angels? sine alamin includes all of the creation. Anyways, i guess we can say there is life out there but whether intelligent or not is another matter.

Being a mercy for something and being sent to give a message are different things. Plants and animals are a part of creation too, maybe he (pbuh) was a mercy to them, but obviously was not a messenger to them (the same could go for angels and the rest of creation), but this is just a possibility... I'm sure someone has researched more into this.

When I was living in Texas and had my "Monster" PC hooked up I was very active in SETI and did quite a bit of number crunching for them. My section of the sky was no more than a pin head to the naked eye, but contained millions (Millions) of galaxies (galaxies, not single stars) in that little space there are trillions of stars, of course the closest ones to us are many thousands of light years distance from us.

When we look out into deep space the distances are so vast we are not seeing what is, we are seeing what was. The closest star to us, (Excluding the Sun) is Alpha Centauri and it is approximately 3 light years distance from us. When we view it, we are seeing it as it was 3 years ago, not as it is today.

If it does turn out there is intelligent outside earth it most likely will be a minimum of 10,000 years light years distance from us. If some how we got any radio communication from them, it will be at least 10,000 years old by the time it reaches us. Communication with extraterrestrial life, if it exists, does not seem to be very probable.

Reminded me of...

 

[CosmicPathos]

^^ nice one.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Your belief is based on your limited knowledge and assumptions.

Allah sends Messengers from your own people to guide you. Prophet Muhammad (S) was a human and would be the last Messenger to MANkind.

Please show proof as to where it says Prophet Muhammad (S) was sent as prophet for all 'worlds' because he was not. Prophet Solomon was sent as a prophet for his people (humans) and for jinns (jinn world). He was given ability to talk to animals but he was not sent as a prophet to them.

Life is out there as Allah says we have created heavens and earth and spread life therein. As for it being intelligent or not, that is hidden knowledge that we do not have. Best leave that topic alone...

I might have limited knowledge but I await you to produce a strong argument in this regards which makes it sufficiently probable that from Islamic perspective we can believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe. Till you do that, I am happy with my limited knowledge as a human.

But of course my belief in Islam does not depend on what Quran predicts regarding aliens.

 

[cat eyes]

I might have limited knowledge but I await you to produce a strong argument in this regards which makes it sufficiently probable that from Islamic perspective we can believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe. Till you do that, I am happy with my limited knowledge as a human.

But of course my belief in Islam does not depend on what Quran predicts regarding aliens.

but where are you getting evidence that there is no life? have you been there ;D scientists cant even rule anything out yet so how you can

 

[breezes]

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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
jazakumallah kheer for amazing post
subhan allah al-azeem
have a nice day