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I don't think you know what carpet bombing is, my friend
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Asallama Alaikum brother Imaad what I find funny about you is how you tell other members what they know and what they don't know.It doesn't matter if they carpet bombed Fallujah or not.It still resulted in innocent civilians dying.
What is evil are the carbomber who massacre children and women at hospitals, bus stations, anywhere in Iraq simply to cause chaos.
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Brother I don't think you can say that with a straight face.Are you honestly saying that the American troops are not guilty of this indecency?Please do research on what goes on in Iraq and don't just take it from the American media.The Mujahideen don't fight just to create chaos.They are fighting for their people,land,religion,and freedom.What are the American troops fighting for?Most of them don't even want to fight they have to because they got drafted.
If the US was a brutal as you claim, we would be discussing MILLIONS of dead Iraqis.
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Brother you don't get it do you?It doesn't matter if 10 people or millions die.If one person dies it's like the whole of mankind died if one life is saved it's like you saved the whole of mankind.Look at the polls it said that they were about 82,000-100,000 Iraqi civilians dead.What does that tell you?
The main killer of Iraqis these days seems to be the terrorists, doing it in the name of our God, which is te worst crime.
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No brother it's not the Mujahideen it's the enemies of Islam.Whether it be U.S or the U.N.They will stop at nothing to destroy Muhammad's Ummah.Even if it means killing innocent civilians.
 
Shukri said:
Asallama Alaikum brother Imaad what I find funny about you is how you tell other members what they know and what they don't know.It doesn't matter if they carpet bombed Fallujah or not.It still resulted in innocent civilians dying.
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That it did. One of the reasons I opposed the war in the first place was the inevitable loss of innocent life.

Brother I don't think you can say that with a straight face.Are you honestly saying that the American troops are not guilty of this indecency?Please do research on what goes on in Iraq and don't just take it from the American media.The Mujahideen don't fight just to create chaos.They are fighting for their people,land,religion,and freedom.
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That's all well and good until certain groups start breaking Islamic laws of war in order to fight for their land, religion and freedom.

What are the American troops fighting for?Most of them don't even want to fight they have to because they got drafted.
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That's a tragedy in itself.

No brother it's not the Mujahideen it's the enemies of Islam.Whether it be U.S or the U.N.They will stop at nothing to destroy Muhammad's Ummah.Even if it means killing innocent civilians.
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Nah. They're more interested in the buying and selling of oil than the death of Islam.
 
Muezzin said:
Nah. They're more interested in the buying and selling of oil than the death of Islam.
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Asallama Alaikum brother really do hope that was the case,but I rarely doubt it is.
 
Shukri said:
Asallama Alaikum brother Imaad what I find funny about you is how you tell other members what they know and what they don't know.It doesn't matter if they carpet bombed Fallujah or not.It still resulted in innocent civilians dying.
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Carpet Bombing refers to a specific tactic. If we are going to use these phrases to describe something then lets make sure we are using them correctly. In this case Hashim was not using it correctly because the US has not carpet bombed any Iraqi cities. Hashim is using these words for the emotional weight attached to them and the images of Dresden and Grozny, etc. You would be hard pressed to find such images in this war.

Brother I don't think you can say that with a straight face.Are you honestly saying that the American troops are not guilty of this indecency?Please do research on what goes on in Iraq and don't just take it from the American media.The Mujahideen don't fight just to create chaos.They are fighting for their people,land,religion,and freedom.What are the American troops fighting for?Most of them don't even want to fight they have to because they got drafted.
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Drafted? You just lost any ounce of credibility you may have had.

The US armed forces are made up of all volunteers. There has not been a draft in over 30 years.

Anyways, if the 'mujahideen' are fighting for the people then why do they have no problems killing so many of them with their carbombs?

If they are fighting for Islam then why are they breaking its basic rules to persecute their war?

They will stop at nothing to destroy Muhammad's Ummah.Even if it means killing innocent civilians.
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If they will "stop at nothing" then how come they just don't nuke the worthless Muslim countries (ones without oil) and pound the Arab oil countries into submission?

You seriously are out of your league.
 
Hashim said:
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Brother Muezzihn how are the iraqi mujahideen breaching islamic rules of warfare.fighting, please elaborate.

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I was referring to suicide bombing/martydom operations. I know how that is a point of contension in these forums, so I didn't want to mention it by name in order to avoid any off-topic arguments. :)
 
imaad_udeen said:
Drafted? You just lost any ounce of credibility you may have had.

The US armed forces are made up of all volunteers. There has not been a draft in over 30 years.
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Brother can you please give me any proof for your statement?My proof would be some people I know.For ex.neighbor,friends brother,and uncle.They all didn't want to go,but they had to because of the gov.

Anyways, if the 'mujahideen' are fighting for the people then why do they have no problems killing so many of them with their carbombs?

If they are fighting for Islam then why are they breaking its basic rules to persecute their war?
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If America is fighting for the freedom of Iraq then why do they feel it's okay to kill children and blow up their homes?No actually the mujahideen aren't.

come they just don't nuke the worthless Muslim countries (ones without oil) and pound the Arab oil countries into submission?

You seriously are out of your league.

If they will "stop at nothing" then how
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Do you even know anything about the Arab countries.They are trying to but aren't able to.
 
Shukri said:
Brother can you please give me any proof for your statement?My proof would be some people I know.For ex.neighbor,friends brother,and uncle.They all didn't want to go,but they had to because of the gov.
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They volunteered to join the armed forces, no one has been forced too.

Once you join the armed forces, part of the deal is that you might be sent to a combat zone. Whether you want to go or not is not the issue.

My proof is that there has not been a draft in the United States since the Vietnam era. SHould be easy for you to find.

If America is fighting for the freedom of Iraq then why do they feel it's okay to kill children and blow up their homes?No actually the mujahideen aren't.
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No one in the US armed forces thinks it's 'okay' to kill children and when it happens it is a tragic accident or they are attempting to attack the insurgents and children and other innocewnt people get caught in the crossfire.

The insurgents of Fallujah used the disgusting tactic of hiding behind civilians and firing from civil occupied buildings.

Do you even know anything about the Arab countries.They are trying to but aren't able to.
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That still doesnt qualify your statement. You said the west would "stop at nothing" to destroy Muslims and that statement has not been proven by yourself. Back your statements up please.
 
:sl: Hashim,
I defend my fellow Muslims as well. I dont consider one a Muslim when he is so willing to murder innocent people in Allah's name.

3) Concerning the car bombings, you have yet proved to me that these bombings are commited by the muslims. When you do i will answer this aswell if Allaah (swt) wills.

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;D ;D

Sure, I am sure they were Jews...
 
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Assalamu alaikum

I have noticed as I have been reading these posts, that we are making Differentiations by labellings members as "American muslim"...

I would like to remind you of the following rule InshaAllah ...

11. No sectarian issues allowed. We are promoting the unity of Islam. Allah (Exalted is He) said in Surah Al-An'âm, verse 159: Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad -- Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allâh, Who then will tell them what they used to do.


I know, no sectarian issues were discussed, but placing these labels on others, does not aid in Uniting the Ummah.


In regards to the events that occur in Iraq (car bombings etc.) If we have no solid evidence as to who the commited the crimes, it would be best to refrain from accusations.


No one in the US armed forces thinks it's 'okay' to kill children and when it happens it is a tragic accident or they are attempting to attack the insurgents and children and other innocewnt people get caught in the crossfire.
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I dont agree, we do not know of the intentions of each soldier..


So to say "No one in the US armeds forces" acts this way, is wrong on your part...


Verily, Allah is All-Knower, All-Aware (of things)." (Luqman 31:34)

barakallahu feekum

 
Far7an said:
Assalamu alaikum

I have noticed as I have been reading these posts, that we are making Differentiations by labellings members as "American muslim"...

I would like to remind you of the following rule InshaAllah ...

11. No sectarian issues allowed. We are promoting the unity of Islam. Allah (Exalted is He) said in Surah Al-An'âm, verse 159: Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad -- Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allâh, Who then will tell them what they used to do.


I know, no sectarian issues were discussed, but placing these labels on others, does not aid in Uniting the Ummah.


In regards to the events that occur in Iraq (car bombings etc.) If we have no solid evidence as to who the commited the crimes, it would be best to refrain from accusations.


I dont agree, we do not know of the intentions of each soldier..


So to say "No one in the US armeds forces" acts this way, is wrong on your part...


Verily, Allah is All-Knower, All-Aware (of things)." (Luqman 31:34)

barakallahu feekum
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Indeed, but I do not believe that this is the general sentiment of American troops.

Sure, there are a few bad apples in every bunch, no matter nationality or religion or race.
 
Hashim said:
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This occupation has failed the kuffaar are defeated, more than 60 US troops have been killed in Iraq this month alone. Even check your western zionist media sources, they will admit this.They can take their 'sentiments' out of iraq, they are not welcome!

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More and more people are dying every month and there is no recognition. The only recognition they have is to change the damn government.
 
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imaad_udeen said:
The opinion of one congressman among over a hundred convinces me of nothing.
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Asallama Alaikum if that doesn't convince you then what does?Brother would you please stop with the insults.It's enough muslim's get that from the media we surely don't need it from one of our fellow brothers.
 
Hashim said:
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This occupation has failed the kuffaar are defeated, more than 60 US troops have been killed in Iraq this month alone. Even check your western zionist media sources, they will admit this.They can take their 'sentiments' out of iraq, they are not welcome!

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If they been defeated then how come they are still there?

How come your reistence fighters flee when the US shows up somewhere in force?
 
Shukri said:
Asallama Alaikum if that doesn't convince you then what does?Brother would you please stop with the insults.It's enough muslim's get that from the media we surely don't need it from one of our fellow brothers.
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I have insulted no-one.

And no, the words of one congressman does not convnce me of anything other than that sole congressman is a nut and has no idea what he is actually talking about.
 
More and more people are dying every month and there is no recognition. The only recognition they have is to change the damn government.
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That is exactly the aims of the minority terrorist groups. Getting rid of the majority elected Government is the only hope that the minority group have as a chance to regain power.

What is Ironic is that the very minority muslim groups who are currently slaughtering fellow Muslims by mass "claim" to be resistence fighters. What they actually resist is the majority led elected new Government........
 
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That is exactly the aims of the minority terrorist groups. Getting rid of the majority elected Government is the only hope that the minority group have as a chance to regain power.

What is Ironic is that the very minority muslim groups who are currently slaughtering fellow Muslims by mass "claim" to be resistence fighters. What they actually resist is the majority led elected new Government........
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Just a quick question, does anyone know how many Iraqis were actually enfranchised (entitled to vote)?
 

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