How do Atheists view the Prophets (messengers of Allah)?

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wilberhum said:
Maybe some day you will understand the difference between faith and fact.
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yeah u dont know the truth cause u an athiest or watever...and i think..ahem...KNOW that you will be one of the people in the grave that allah will punish SOOoOoO much... with hooks...snakes...and ew...much more.... how could people (U) be so stubborn these days... oh and if your "god" created the earth and you and all, then why would your religion only come after people are already born?? already have other religions???and already livin the life?????????????????????:rolleyes: oh and u r just tryin to let ppl know ur age..haha
 
Qingu said:
So you think al-Buraq, the flying donkey woman, was made up?

Can you please answer this question? Your eternal soul may depend on it. :)

(And no, I'm not German or Roman. I do own a cat who is half-lion though.)
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lol..half lion cat..believable...everything else..only believable if its in the quraan!
 
You Know The Best Non-muslim Here That Is Really Polite And Non-racist And Understands Is Grace Seeker!
 
truemuslim said:
lol..half lion cat..believable...everything else..only believable if its in the quraan!
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So you don't believe the hadith that describes Muhammad's flying donkey?

Also, who is being racist here? I've not seen a single comment about race. You do realize that Islam is a religion, not a race, right?
 
Qingu said:
So you don't believe the hadith that describes Muhammad's flying donkey?

Also, who is being racist here? I've not seen a single comment about race. You do realize that Islam is a religion, not a race, right?
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in racist i mean other people outside this board(shouldve explained better.lol)
and can you please show me the hadith about that?

omg where are all the muslims? sleeping?? if so wake up its almost fajr inthe yemen and saudish places
 
truemuslim said:
and can you please show me the hadith about that?
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Bukhari's hadith describes the flying donkey creature that transports Muhammad to heaven:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/058.sbt.html#005.058.227

Here's a picture of the beastie:

Miraj.jpg
 
truemuslim said:
yeah u dont know the truth cause u an athiest or watever..
Right, I don't know what you think is "The Truth", I just believe your "Truth" is false.
.and i think..ahem...KNOW that you will be one of the people in the grave that allah will punish SOOoOoO much... with hooks...snakes...and ew...much more.... how could people (U) be so stubborn these days... oh and if your "god" created the earth and you and all, then why would your religion only come after people are already born?? already have other religions???and already livin the life?????????????????????:rolleyes:
Wow, you do believe in a god of hate, don't you.
loh and u r just tryin to let ppl know ur age..haha
My age is there for anyone that wants to know.
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I'm not ashamed of my age or where I live. I feel no need to hide it like it is something to be ashamed of. What are you ashamed of?

 
wilberhum said:
I'm not ashamed of my age or where I live. I feel no need to hide it like it is something to be ashamed of. What are you ashamed of?
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i never said i was ashamed of anything. now, you don't believe the truth, and i dont believe your religion, or other religions. but i am just saying to look at the truth before its too late, you know how most people find the truth? by asking A god, (just a god, not jesus or allah or anyhthing) to let them know the truth, and allah grants them the truth if they really want to find the true truth. like one lady was begging god to let her find the truth, and then she went to read the bible, and when she opened the next page the whole bible turned to a quraan. subhannallah. :D

Qingu said:
So the Bukhari hadith is wrong?
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well sometimes they arent real or they are misunderstood and translated wrong. but mostly lies. so yea sorta
 
wilberhum said:
Are dinosaurs in the Quran?

I guess you don't believe they existed either.
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doubt it, but yes i do believe they existed..sorta..not completely though but alot. but that doesnt even matter..its like saying they will search the whole earth to find out if a lady at the age of 25 who's name was Sarah Dubster ever existed...but dinosoars are juss a bit intresting.
 
truemuslim said:
You Know The Best Non-muslim Here That Is Really Polite And Non-racist And Understands Is Grace Seeker!
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Grace Seeker is cool. He makes many good points. I think he is to be admired.

If you admire him, you should analyze what he says.

He always distinguishes between fact and faith.
He never says junk like "The bible is proof that .....".
He never makes claims that he can prove his faith is right and everyone else is wrong.

I pester you, not for what you believe, I pester you because you don't understand the difference between faith and fact and you expect people to accept your opinion as proof.

Surly you see the difference.

And how did the "Non-racist" come from?
 
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truemuslim said:
well sometimes they arent real or they are misunderstood and translated wrong. but mostly lies. so yea sorta
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Well, I agree with you, and I appreciate your ability to think for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Most Muslims would consult the ulema before making such a statement about the hadith!

Now what about Jews turning into monkeys and invisible spirits possessing people? Do you believe that's all just stories?
 
wilberhum said:
Grace Seeker is cool. He makes many good points. I think he is to be admired.

If you admire him, you should analyze what he says.

He always distinguishes between fact and faith.
He never says junk like "The bible is proof that .....".
He never makes claims that he can prove his faith is right and everyone else is wrong.

I pester you, not for what you believe, I pester you because you don't understand the difference between faith and fact and you expect people to accept your opinion as proof.

Surly you see the difference.
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oh no i dont say that im right and everyone else is wrong, i just try to show the obviousness of islam and other religions. thanks
 
Qingu said:
Well, I agree with you, and I appreciate your ability to think for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Most Muslims would consult the ulema before making such a statement about the hadith!

Now what about Jews turning into monkeys and invisible spirits possessing people? Do you believe that's all just stories?
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excuse me?? and i never heard of that. sorry
 
truemuslim said:
excuse me?? and i never heard of that. sorry
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I was complimenting you.

So you never heard of it .... do you believe it? Are you skeptical at all? Jews turning into monkeys and the existence of invisible spirits made of smokeless fire?

Do you believe this stuff or not?

P.S. I'm off to bed, so I won't respond for a day.
 
truemuslim said:
i never said i was ashamed of anything.
No you didn't. But people usually hide thing they are ashamed of. What are you hiding?
now, you don't believe the truth,
Oh, but I do believe in the truth. The problem is what you call "Truth", in my opinion is false.
and i dont believe your religion, or other religions.
That's fine. I would never ask you to. Why do you think I need to believe in yours?
but i am just saying to look at the truth before its too late,
I looked at your "Truth" and found it to be false.
you know how most people find the truth?
Everyone looks for the truth. But if there was "A Truth", why are there so many answers?
by asking A god, (just a god, not jesus or allah or anyhthing) to let them know the truth, and allah grants them the truth if they really want to find the true truth.
Again, why are there so many answers?
like one lady was begging god to let her find the truth, and then she went to read the bible, and when she opened the next page the whole bible turned to a quraan. subhannallah. :D
Do you have documentation on that story? Of course not, it is just a story. Even I can make up stories.

well sometimes they arent real or they are misunderstood and translated wrong. but mostly lies. so yea sorta
I think they are seldom true.
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The truth is, we don't know the truth, we just believe.
 
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