I know this may sound rude but this noor that everyone is speaking of, can only be found in the muslims, for verily the muslims who stick to the book of Allah and the Sunnah of the prophet [alayhi salam] and have the correct creed and exhaust themselves in implementing the deen of Islaam, and practicing good manners and morals and establish a relationship with Allah and His book and implementing all of this the way the prophet [alayhi salam] did will be endowed with this noor in Shaa Allah. A person upon shirk and kufr will never exemplify noor, they may try to adorn themselves with humblenss and piety but it is only a facade, Allah adorns his righteous servants with many bounties and blessings, those you can see and those you cannoot see. But desiring for this noor to seen upon you [I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS YOUR INTENTION]so that it can be seen by others CAN BE CONSIDERED is riyaa. Which is minor shirk but a major sin of which should be repented from. The prophet [alayhi salam] feared for his ummah minor shirk when he said, what I fear most for you is shirkul asghar [minor shirk] so the companions said, 'oh messenger of Allah [alayhi salam] and what is shirkul asghar?' so the messenger [alayhi salam] said Ar-Riyaa'u" And Riyaa'u can be defined as intending by any action that you do a reward in this worldly life, from amongst the peoples praise of you, or them mentioning you in a favorable light, like, maa shaa Allah the sister has a lot of noor, or sister so and so is so pious, or sister so and so always gives her charity or reads the Qur'aan so beautifully. And the prophet [alayhi salam] and for Allah alone is the praise left us a dua that will save us from minor shirk by the permission of Allah. And it is to say,"Allahumma Innee A'udhu Bika An Ushrika Bika wa Ana A'lam wa Astaghfiruka Limaa Laa A'lam" Oh Allah indeed I seek refuge with YOU [alone] that I commit shirk with YOU while I am aware of it and I seek YOUR forgiveness for what I am not aware of [if I fell into shirk]. Saheeh Targheeb wa Tarheeb and it is saheeh, authenticated by Shaykh Albaani [rahimahullah]
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I know this may sound rude but this noor that everyone is speaking of, can only be found in the muslims, for verily the muslims who stick to the book of Allah and the Sunnah of the prophet [alayhi salam] and have the correct creed and exhaust themselves in implementing the deen of Islaam, and practicing good manners and morals and establish a relationship with Allah and His book and implementing all of this the way the prophet [alayhi salam] did will be endowed with this noor in Shaa Allah. A person upon shirk and kufr will never exemplify noor, they may try to adorn themselves with humblenss and piety but it is only a facade, Allah adorns his righteous servants with many bounties and blessings, those you can see and those you cannoot see. But desiring for this noor to seen upon you [I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS YOUR INTENTION]so that it can be seen by others CAN BE CONSIDERED is riyaa. Which is minor shirk but a major sin of which should be repented from. The prophet [alayhi salam] feared for his ummah minor shirk when he said, what I fear most for you is shirkul asghar [minor shirk] so the companions said, 'oh messenger of Allah [alayhi salam] and what is shirkul asghar?' so the messenger [alayhi salam] said Ar-Riyaa'u" And Riyaa'u can be defined as intending by any action that you do a reward in this worldly life, from amongst the peoples praise of you, or them mentioning you in a favorable light, like, maa shaa Allah the sister has a lot of noor, or sister so and so is so pious, or sister so and so always gives her charity or reads the Qur'aan so beautifully. And the prophet [alayhi salam] and for Allah alone is the praise left us a dua that will save us from minor shirk by the permission of Allah. And it is to say,"Allahumma Innee A'udhu Bika An Ushrika Bika wa Ana A'lam wa Astaghfiruka Limaa Laa A'lam" Oh Allah indeed I seek refuge with YOU [alone] that I commit shirk with YOU while I am aware of it and I seek YOUR forgiveness for what I am not aware of [if I fell into shirk]. Saheeh Targheeb wa Tarheeb and it is saheeh, authenticated by Shaykh Albaani [rahimahullah]
there are different types of nur, Angels are created from noor [light] and in creation the universe is filled with a light spectrum we can not see with the human eyes. Allah uses noor in his creation for many things so to say only a muslim can have noor is not correct. You are getting into the finer details of how different types of noor interact with the human body, there is a spiritual aspect to our human physical self, that is how jinn are able to interact with us, our thoughts minds and hearts can connect to the spiritual world and when this is given the capability we can perceive the spiritual world like the Prophet did, Noor is a very deep issue.
We were speaking about a particular type of noor from the original poster's post. To say the kuffar have have noor is not possible and goes against Islaam and goes against the quran and the athar of the companions and proof of that is what Allah says, "
On the Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) when some faces will become white and some faces will become black; as for those whose faces will become black (to them will be said): "Did you reject Faith after accepting it? Then taste the torment (in Hell) for rejecting Faith." 3:106 Do you know what that great Sahabi Ibn Abaas [radhiya Alahu anhumaa] who was known as al-habrul ummah [scholar of the ummah] wal bahrul ilm [ocean of knowledge]said what was the tafseer of this ayah was? He said as for the one who whose faces shall be light then they are ahlus sunnah wal jamaa'ah and as for those faces whose faces that shall be darkened then they are ahlu bidah [people of innovations] and furqa [sects]. If the people of innovations and sects or division do not have light and they are muslims then how can we say disbelievers can have noor? Ibn Abaas [radhiya Allahu anhumaa] mentioned Ahlus Sunnah are the ones who will have noor on their faces on yaumal qiyamah. So this noor is given to those who have the correct creed and application of the deen, does it seem befitting that Allah would give His noor to someone who disbelieves and commits shirk and falls into both major and minor sins?
Your mixing definitions, the example you give is of the akhira while the noor we speak of is one in this world. Your also over simplifying the Issue, I could very well suggest what ever noor Allah gives to a kafir to guide him to some place in this life, or for some other reason is taken away from him upon death. When Allah wishes well for a kafir and he places a noor in his heart to lead him to islam, until he takes the shahadah isn't he still a kafir with the noor of Allah guiding him to his final place? further when a kafir prays doesn't Allah look at them or pays attention to them, he mentions this specifically in the Quran, they call out to him by day and by night, Allahs likeness is light upon light neither of the east or the west, it stands to reason that during prayer they receive some noor to nourish there heart so they remain upright, its what prayer does to a human. Something stops them from becoming muslim but they still need nourishment to be good otherwise a human would become completely corrupt if his prayer had no effect on his heart [its like physiology]. For everything there is a polish and the polish of the heart is dhikr of Allah, this wasn't limited to muslims he was talking about a mechanism in creation a law like the laws in physics. something needs to stop people from total corruption and there laws at work which govern this for all people.
I do not wish this to be a long and drawn out discussion, but I have not mixed anything, we were discussing the noor that can be witnessed on the believers face, meaning the physical brilliance that illuminates their countenance. As for the Noor of Huda then yes I agree that guidance no doubt is a noor [singular] in which Allah guides His slaves from those who those who disbelieved into Islam as Allah says "He guides them from Dhulomaat [darknessess] into Noor" Though I wouldnt say Allah placed Noor in a kaafirs heart as I dont have any text from the Qur'aan and sunnah for that. Likewise when the kuffar pray of course Allah hears them and knows what they are doing but their supplications are worthless and it only adds to their own destruction because they are calling upon other than Allah. Perhap you should read on this forum a post concerning Allah's Iraadhah and His Mashiyyah its very beneficial. I agree they still need nourishment [spiritual] but its all deception that perpetuates their condition of remaining upon their kufr and shirk. Now I myself am a revert, a former Christian and I swear by Allah that I have never looked at the face of anyone of my congregation and seen noor on their faces, not the ministers not the deacons not the parishners, no one, been to catholic services too prior to accepting Islaam and you know what? No noor,sat with buddist and baha'i faiths and you know what? No noor. Then I come to Islaam, wa lillahil hamd and guess what? I met individuals from all nationalities and a host of skin colors ranging from that of a raisin to that of an olive to that of porcelin and I have seen noor on their faces. I have met individuals who were extremely dark and the noor that was seen on their faces was beautiful. So like I said before from my understanding of certain texts and my own experience have led me to believe that the disbelievers do not have that type of noor that the ORIGINAL POSTER was referring to. Wallahu Alam
in reference to the original poster you are right but i don't agree with some of your explanations.
That isn't correct it isn't worthless, nothing we do in life is worthless, Pharoah the biggest Kaffir in the Quran was sent Moses to guide him, this is after he killed the first born children, right up to the end Allah continued to give him chances and never gave up on him. Allah may also choose to answer the prayer of a Kafir who prays to other than him you shouldn't limit what Allah may want to do.
The noor on the faces is one type of noor, there are others that do other things and a kafir wouldn't be denied them as they are a part of life and Allah's creation. On the day of judgment Allah those he hasnt appointed noor for will not have noor on that day, The muslims will be shining like the full moon on that day and the kufar will come up to them to take that noor but they wont be able to, light here is in the literal sense so it is a mechanism in creation humans need as is evident by the fact the Kuafr will attempt to steal it to try to make things easier for themselves.
That isn't correct it isn't worthless, nothing we do in life is worthless, Pharoah the biggest Kaffir in the Quran was sent Moses to guide him, this is after he killed the first born children, right up to the end Allah continued to give him chances and never gave up on him. Allah may also choose to answer the prayer of a Kafir who prays to other than him you shouldn't limit what Allah may want to do.
The noor on the faces is one type of noor, there are others that do other things and a kafir wouldn't be denied them as they are a part of life and Allah's creation. On the day of judgment Allah those he hasnt appointed noor for will not have noor on that day, The muslims will be shining like the full moon on that day and the kufar will come up to them to take that noor but they wont be able to, light here is in the literal sense so it is a mechanism in creation humans need as is evident by the fact the Kuafr will attempt to steal it to try to make things easier for themselves.
First of all, this is my opinion, this the way how I see Islam:
I believe every creature has got noor (light , positive energy or however you translate it into your native language). Why? Look at the babies? How do you feel when you see little babies? Especially if they smile on you? Don't you feel yourself better? Doesn't their smile make you happy? At least just lil bit? Because little babies are sinless and full of noors, because they are innocent little humans.
The older we got, the nastier / meane etc. we get or potentially we get more sinful and our noor gets less and less. And of course the amount of noor for each person is different.
Now the actual question is: How to obtain noor? I believe there are 4 ways to obtain it:
1. Doing Islamic rituals : Such as 5 times a day namaz/salat ; fasting during Ramadan etc.
2. Doing Islamic rituals part II : Apart from the above ones that are obligation for every healthy and adult Muslim, you can do further more such as maybe praying God intensively or fasting extra days etc.
3. Improving the personality / behaviour in a good way: Kuran orders us to do Islamic rituals such as praying etc but also we should be actually all honest, fair , kind etc. people. For example some Muslims claim to be honest but they don't pay their taxes fully, he were go, that's haram.
4. Tying to maintain your mind "clean" : Try to think positive even if you dislike certain people.
I believe every creature has got noor (light , positive energy or however you translate it into your native language). Why? Look at the babies? How do you feel when you see little babies? Especially if they smile on you? Don't you feel yourself better? Doesn't their smile make you happy? At least just lil bit? Because little babies are sinless and full of noors, because they are innocent little humans.
The older we got, the nastier / meane etc. we get or potentially we get more sinful and our noor gets less and less. And of course the amount of noor for each person is different.
Now the actual question is: How to obtain noor? I believe there are 4 ways to obtain it:
1. Doing Islamic rituals : Such as 5 times a day namaz/salat ; fasting during Ramadan etc.
2. Doing Islamic rituals part II : Apart from the above ones that are obligation for every healthy and adult Muslim, you can do further more such as maybe praying God intensively or fasting extra days etc.
3. Improving the personality / behaviour in a good way: Kuran orders us to do Islamic rituals such as praying etc but also we should be actually all honest, fair , kind etc. people. For example some Muslims claim to be honest but they don't pay their taxes fully, he were go, that's haram.
4. Tying to maintain your mind "clean" : Try to think positive even if you dislike certain people.
Peace upon you, you can obtain light mainly from Quran recitation and prayers( nawfel & night prayer), you should have many
Prayers and long rokoa and sujood within it.
The light may appear clear to your face or at least you can feel the guaidance and mercy of allah all over your body.
Prayers and long rokoa and sujood within it.
The light may appear clear to your face or at least you can feel the guaidance and mercy of allah all over your body.
It is hard to know when you yourself have obtained this noor. I know myself that when i see someone of a very righteous nature, you can see the noor on their faces. I don't know if that person considers themselves to have this noor. I think they feel they never have enough noor so they are constantly progressing in this itself. That is the attitude of a real believer. You can never be fully satisfied with the light that you have and feel that you can always progress.
Read Surah Al-Hadid (Chapter 57 of the Holy Qur'an) and you will see the theme of the believers and their light in it in many verses. Verse 28 in it says that you should fear Allah and obey His Messenger. So have Taqwa (fear of Allah) and try to follow the actions of the Holy Prophet (saw) as much as you possibly can in your life. I don't see any other verse in the Qur'an being clearer than this on how to obtain a light from Allah. This will shine on the Day of Judgment, but as for it shining in this world, I am not sure if the people you want to see this are in this life or the Hereafter. I don't know if everyone or just the true believers could see this light shining on your face if you do obtain it. But, we do know that the Prophets like Musa (as) definitely had this (It is mentioned in the Bible, I don't know where, but Musa (as)'s shining hand without disease is a reference to this in verse: 20:22, 27:12).
So keep on doing your best to be the best Muslim you can be. If you humble yourself before Allah and restrain your lower self, then you will succeed. In sha 'Allah.
Read Surah Al-Hadid (Chapter 57 of the Holy Qur'an) and you will see the theme of the believers and their light in it in many verses. Verse 28 in it says that you should fear Allah and obey His Messenger. So have Taqwa (fear of Allah) and try to follow the actions of the Holy Prophet (saw) as much as you possibly can in your life. I don't see any other verse in the Qur'an being clearer than this on how to obtain a light from Allah. This will shine on the Day of Judgment, but as for it shining in this world, I am not sure if the people you want to see this are in this life or the Hereafter. I don't know if everyone or just the true believers could see this light shining on your face if you do obtain it. But, we do know that the Prophets like Musa (as) definitely had this (It is mentioned in the Bible, I don't know where, but Musa (as)'s shining hand without disease is a reference to this in verse: 20:22, 27:12).
So keep on doing your best to be the best Muslim you can be. If you humble yourself before Allah and restrain your lower self, then you will succeed. In sha 'Allah.
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What do you mean by noor on the face. As i know there are no such specific thing and amal.
But struggle for five prayers specily tahjud prayer.
Quran tilawat.
Zikar ALLAH.
Practice every amal according to sunnah.
Strongle hijab form non mehram
Avoid wrong thinking.
Avoid sins.
Dua to ALLAH.
Completely submit to ALLAH.
In sha ALLAH you will see good result.
There will be no question in grave and in judgment day about noori face.
What do you mean by noor on the face. As i know there are no such specific thing and amal.
But struggle for five prayers specily tahjud prayer.
Quran tilawat.
Zikar ALLAH.
Practice every amal according to sunnah.
Strongle hijab form non mehram
Avoid wrong thinking.
Avoid sins.
Dua to ALLAH.
Completely submit to ALLAH.
In sha ALLAH you will see good result.
There will be no question in grave and in judgment day about noori face.
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Assalaamu alaikum,
It was asked: how to find noor (Light)?
Allah is... Light upon light. And He Guides whomever He Wills to His Light... (inspired by 24:35)
It seems to me that we should seek Allah's Guidance in order to find this Light. We have three sources of guidance, I think. The Signs in Creation, the Qur'an and the Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). But also, it seems to me, the previous Books, and words and actions of prior Prophets (PBUT) Sent by Him may contain enough echoes to help the seeker of Light to find at least some Guidance.
I believe that Muslim, in the word's original, Qur'anic sense, describes a relationship with God. It is not a casual label that we are born into. We are all born Muslim! But then we wander astray... and we all have to make an active and conscious effort to find Him, to please Him. In my understanding, the label we affix to ourselves is not very important. It is the relationship we are trying to have that is what is important.
If you are born into a family whose ancestors perhaps were Muslims, it does not automatically mean that you, too, are a Muslim with a guaranteed spot in Paradise. And if you are born into a family whose ancestors were, perhaps, atheists, this does not mean that you are a Kaafir who is doomed to Torment. Because kafara means “to hide, conceal, be ungrateful”. It is an active choice, too (both Muslim and Kaafir are (grammatically) active participles, incidentally). God offers you the possibilities to Know Him. For those fortunate enough to be exposed to His Unadulterated Word, it is easier to find Allah, in my opinion.
But for those who are Blessed with different circumstances, there are always ways to find Him. Because in the wind that blows the scents of thunder, in the industry of the ants, in the flying of the birds, in the dawning of the day...Allah Calls to us. In the wise words we find, half faded with human mistakes, Allah Calls to us. In the emptiness of the created heart, Allah Calls to us.
And how do we use this Guidance to find Him, to know how to please Him, to perhaps be Blessed with His Light? Well, He has Given us the tools to distinguish between things (in my understanding, this is what al-furqaan means). He Gave us our fitrah (our inner sense of right and wrong), our taqwa (a sense that can “feel” Allah, and that protects us from that which is displeasing to Him (and which is therefore bad for us)), and our intellects.
Do we consider the signs in Creation? Do we try to use our inner compass to chose what is best? Do we listen to, or read, the messages He has Sent us? Do we try to understand the people, objects and events that He Sends across our Paths? Do we open our hearts and try to feel God's Will?
If we do, I believe, we are struggling to be Muslims (those who surrender to Him). But if we chose to ignore the Guidance, if we smother our taqwa and fitrah and ban our intellects from pursuing Him, then we are being Kaafirs (those who cover and are ungrateful to their Creator). The labels we affix to ourselves are not very important. It is the state of our relationship with Him that He Looks at.
This is how I understand His Guidance and the methods He has Given us to weigh and understand His Guidance.
As for noor (light)? It seems to me that when we find those moments of peace and balance and harmony, when we are in that state of Islam, He Sends His Light into our hearts. Through our connection with Him (which we all have...through His Ruh, maybe?), our uncovered and questioning hearts can receive His Light. And then we can radiate it to others around us. And the more our hearts overflow with His Light, the more we shine onto others.
But it seems to me that, just as our relationship with Him fluctuates, so does the level of light we have in our hearts to shine, fluctuates. And some people shine more often or more brightly than others. But I have seen pretty dark people have moments of brightness. And pretty bright people have times of darkness. (smile) Are there not times when we overflow with love for all around us, and we feel like we're shining on the people around us? And are there not other times when dark thoughts and actions colour our lives and we cast instead hungry shadows onto others, and are not very nice to those around us?
How to find more Light? Look to please Allah, is what I believe. How? Well, first find out what (through the Guidance and using al-furqaan) pleases Him, and then do it. Seek knowledge. As much and as far as you can. And then apply what you have learnt.
And remembrance of Allah? Yes, of course, formulated prayers and praise are one way. But everything can be a remembrance (thikr) of the Creator! When you comfort your sick child at night instead of sleeping... because you know that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Cleaning your house and clothes...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Looking for fair trade food...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Visiting a friend who's sad...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. We can try to make our whole lives a continuous remembrance of Him. We can make our lives into living prayers and praise.
And if we do this, I believe, we'll find ourselves more often than not in a state of Islam. And He Will Illuminate our hearts, and we will spill His Light into the lives of those around us.
In sha Allah (If it is the Will of God).
But only Allah, the Knowing really Knows.
May He Who is the Light Guide and Illuminate us.
It was asked: how to find noor (Light)?
Allah is... Light upon light. And He Guides whomever He Wills to His Light... (inspired by 24:35)
It seems to me that we should seek Allah's Guidance in order to find this Light. We have three sources of guidance, I think. The Signs in Creation, the Qur'an and the Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). But also, it seems to me, the previous Books, and words and actions of prior Prophets (PBUT) Sent by Him may contain enough echoes to help the seeker of Light to find at least some Guidance.
I believe that Muslim, in the word's original, Qur'anic sense, describes a relationship with God. It is not a casual label that we are born into. We are all born Muslim! But then we wander astray... and we all have to make an active and conscious effort to find Him, to please Him. In my understanding, the label we affix to ourselves is not very important. It is the relationship we are trying to have that is what is important.
If you are born into a family whose ancestors perhaps were Muslims, it does not automatically mean that you, too, are a Muslim with a guaranteed spot in Paradise. And if you are born into a family whose ancestors were, perhaps, atheists, this does not mean that you are a Kaafir who is doomed to Torment. Because kafara means “to hide, conceal, be ungrateful”. It is an active choice, too (both Muslim and Kaafir are (grammatically) active participles, incidentally). God offers you the possibilities to Know Him. For those fortunate enough to be exposed to His Unadulterated Word, it is easier to find Allah, in my opinion.
But for those who are Blessed with different circumstances, there are always ways to find Him. Because in the wind that blows the scents of thunder, in the industry of the ants, in the flying of the birds, in the dawning of the day...Allah Calls to us. In the wise words we find, half faded with human mistakes, Allah Calls to us. In the emptiness of the created heart, Allah Calls to us.
And how do we use this Guidance to find Him, to know how to please Him, to perhaps be Blessed with His Light? Well, He has Given us the tools to distinguish between things (in my understanding, this is what al-furqaan means). He Gave us our fitrah (our inner sense of right and wrong), our taqwa (a sense that can “feel” Allah, and that protects us from that which is displeasing to Him (and which is therefore bad for us)), and our intellects.
Do we consider the signs in Creation? Do we try to use our inner compass to chose what is best? Do we listen to, or read, the messages He has Sent us? Do we try to understand the people, objects and events that He Sends across our Paths? Do we open our hearts and try to feel God's Will?
If we do, I believe, we are struggling to be Muslims (those who surrender to Him). But if we chose to ignore the Guidance, if we smother our taqwa and fitrah and ban our intellects from pursuing Him, then we are being Kaafirs (those who cover and are ungrateful to their Creator). The labels we affix to ourselves are not very important. It is the state of our relationship with Him that He Looks at.
This is how I understand His Guidance and the methods He has Given us to weigh and understand His Guidance.
As for noor (light)? It seems to me that when we find those moments of peace and balance and harmony, when we are in that state of Islam, He Sends His Light into our hearts. Through our connection with Him (which we all have...through His Ruh, maybe?), our uncovered and questioning hearts can receive His Light. And then we can radiate it to others around us. And the more our hearts overflow with His Light, the more we shine onto others.
But it seems to me that, just as our relationship with Him fluctuates, so does the level of light we have in our hearts to shine, fluctuates. And some people shine more often or more brightly than others. But I have seen pretty dark people have moments of brightness. And pretty bright people have times of darkness. (smile) Are there not times when we overflow with love for all around us, and we feel like we're shining on the people around us? And are there not other times when dark thoughts and actions colour our lives and we cast instead hungry shadows onto others, and are not very nice to those around us?
How to find more Light? Look to please Allah, is what I believe. How? Well, first find out what (through the Guidance and using al-furqaan) pleases Him, and then do it. Seek knowledge. As much and as far as you can. And then apply what you have learnt.
And remembrance of Allah? Yes, of course, formulated prayers and praise are one way. But everything can be a remembrance (thikr) of the Creator! When you comfort your sick child at night instead of sleeping... because you know that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Cleaning your house and clothes...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Looking for fair trade food...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. Visiting a friend who's sad...because that's what He Loves. This is thikr. We can try to make our whole lives a continuous remembrance of Him. We can make our lives into living prayers and praise.
And if we do this, I believe, we'll find ourselves more often than not in a state of Islam. And He Will Illuminate our hearts, and we will spill His Light into the lives of those around us.
In sha Allah (If it is the Will of God).
But only Allah, the Knowing really Knows.
May He Who is the Light Guide and Illuminate us.
