How do you deal with finding out some 1 in your family fornicatted?

[sabr*]

Stop publishing the faults of Muslims!

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​

اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Discontinue listening to this evil talk! This thread needs to be closed.
Publishing the faults of other Muslims like it is a soap opera hanging on to every word. Subhanallah! :raging:


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 74:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Beware of suspicion (about others), as suspicion is the falsest talk, and do not spy upon each other, and do not listen to the evil talk of the people about others' affairs, and do not have enmity with one another, but be brothers. And none should ask for the hand of a girl who is already engaged to his (Muslim) brother, but one should wait till the first suitor marries her or leaves her."

 

[AlbanianMuslim]

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Agreed one hundred thousand percent brother. This thread needs to be closed. Frankly, threads like this I feel like are unnecessary. If the sinner comes here asking for guidance its one thing but when it is someone else talking about another human beings sins its really not appropriate to discuss other peoples sins. Just my opinion I guess.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

Not the poster


Woah so she repented and you went off on her? What gives you the right to do that? seriously some people just confuse me. are miss perfect over there? free of sin completely?

people makes mistakes. theres a woman who goes to my masjid and she used to be a PROSTITUTE, she even has some tattoos on her arms that she covers up now but ive seen them in the wash room.
shes married now to a muslim man and has children with him and is one of the most active woman in our community doing all kinds of wonderful things for the masjid
the point: PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES!!
no one has the right to atttack ANYONE. youre being selfish for making this about YOU who cares how YOU feel about this, you either should focus on helping her out or stay out of it altogether

what gives me the right is I'm her mehram and she's my responsibility, and I haven't mentioned the full story here so don't be so quick to jump down my throat. not free of sin no but that doesn't mean we don't speak out and admonish people under our authority for doing evil.

if some 1 does evil in ur house are you jus gonna let them do it and not tell them off?

yeah I know people make mistakes but as I said you don't know the full story and how many mistakes there was, I think how I feel is quite relevant since I'm very closely related, the closest possible relation you can have, are you telling me just for example, if your mother or sister was doing nude modelling in a news paper you'd be selfish for asking her to care about how you feel?

would it be selfish creating a thread asking for advice on how to deal with the sitation? obviously not, and I won't stay out of it when it's going on under my roof.

please if you don't have anything constructive to say, then don't say it at all.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Not the poster


Woah so she repented and you went off on her? What gives you the right to do that? seriously some people just confuse me. are miss perfect over there? free of sin completely?

people makes mistakes. theres a woman who goes to my masjid and she used to be a PROSTITUTE, she even has some tattoos on her arms that she covers up now but ive seen them in the wash room.
shes married now to a muslim man and has children with him and is one of the most active woman in our community doing all kinds of wonderful things for the masjid
the point: PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES!!
no one has the right to atttack ANYONE. youre being selfish for making this about YOU who cares how YOU feel about this, you either should focus on helping her out or stay out of it altogether

Enough with this apologetic attitude. Allhamdulillah, we strive to be free of major sin and fornication is one major sin. The OP talks about someone in his family doing a major sin, you want him to let is slip away like that?

Insult is not the way, of course. It, however, does not mean that one take a soft stance. The OP has every right to be stern with her. And how do you know she has repented? She's still talking to that deceptive adulterer on the phone and that is how OP got to listen to it. Yes we should not listen to anyones private convo, but its not like OP went out of his way to listen to it. It was ALlah's way of disclosing the sin so that the OP's family member be protected from furthering into the abhorrent act.

The example of that prostitute-turned-Muslimah is irrelevant to this post. And talk about judging. You judged from her tattoos that she is a prostitute? sub7anAllah.

 

[AnonymousPoster]

Enough with this apologetic attitude. Allhamdulillah, we strive to be free of major sin and fornication is one major sin. The OP talks about someone in his family doing a major sin, you want him to let is slip away like that?

Insult is not the way, of course. It, however, does not mean that one take a soft stance. The OP has every right to be stern with her. And how do you know she has repented? She's still talking to that adulterer on that phone and that is how OP got to listen to it. Yes we should not listen to anyones private convo, but its not like OP went out of his way to listen to it. It was ALlah's way of disclosing the sin so that the OP's family member be protected from furthering into the abhorrent act.

The example of that prostitute-turned-Muslimah is irrelevant to this post. She might be still a sinner and you have made her a angle-like just cuz she has accepted Islam? Who knows what she does in her house?

thank you i agree, but I saw her msn convo, not fone. I find it quite absurd they expect me to be like "oh don't worry it's minor no big deal" I would be that way if she hadn't done such a major sin.

When this previously happened on another occassion I took the soft stance with her and look how it turned out? can you blame me for being stern this time. I didn't wanna disclose that. but the ignorant post needed answering.

as I said the person who made that post doesn't know the full story so they shouldn't jump down my throat. Alhamdulilah I am aware of her nature now and will implement measures to make sure it won't happen again.

 

[CosmicPathos]

thank you i agree, but I saw her msn convo, not fone. I find it quite absurd they expect me to be like "oh don't worry it's minor no big deal" I would be that way if she hadn't done such a major sin.

When this previously happened on another occassion I took the soft stance with her and look how it turned out? can you blame me for being stern this time. I didn't wanna disclose that. but the ignorant post needed answering.

as I said the person who made that post doesn't know the full story so they shouldn't jump down my throat. Alhamdulilah I am aware of her nature now and will implement measures to make sure it won't happen again.

Make sure that you do not insult her because insulting (by calling names, or attacking on one's ego) is not from Islamic mannerisms. That will make her rebellious. But do make sure that you let her feel what she has done is wrong and that you are not cool with it and that if she continues there will be severe repercussions.

 

[sabr*]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

My Dear practicing Muslims:

Can we agree that when someone requests advice regarding a personal manner that includes someone who is unable to defend themselves that the question should be generalized and not include soap opera details that become salacious in nature.

In Islam witnesses are required to establish the validity of a major sin. Anyone providing sound advice regarding more than one party always takes into account the other persons account of events.

Can we agree that some of these posts requesting advice enter into Fitna and Zina and insult the mind and eyes.
hew

Reread hadith Posted!

 

[Woodrow]

There are some replies in this thread that are of value. But for the most part this is becoming back biting, judgmental and a soap opera.

To keep from loosing the good posts, I am not going to delete the thread, but I am not going to let the daily soap opera continue any further.


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