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Ive found a lot of muslims actually celebrate christmas now. I overheard a hijabi telling a colleague.." i dont celebrate christmas, but really i should, its the birth of jesus ? "
Why dont muslims put in as much enthusiasm into eid as they do into other celebrations ?
Why dont muslims put in as much enthusiasm into eid as they do into other celebrations ?
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First Christmas is not the birth of Jesus (PBUH). Jesus was born sometime in the spring according to the few records they have found during the time. Jesus (PBUH) was born in a stable and all the sheep were out in the fields which is why there was room in the stable. Farmers did not let their livestock out in winter.
Christmas was instituted by the catholic church to mask over the winter solstice and make it easier for people to accept it. and the reason the Christmas tree is used is because back in those days when there was not much food and people were starving the pine tree was the only thing alive. so they brought it inside the house hoping its magic powers would keep them alive too so when Christmas came around they adopted that "tradition"
there is a lot of info on the web with more substantiated references but i am working off the top of my head. I am not making light of the holiday i am all for good cheer and spending time with family but i will not worship a tree and make it my god to do so. Most people dont even know what they are celebrating. but the traditions are older the catholicism they are all druid in origin... even valentines day, easter, i have a whole bunch of facts that i could tell you about each one.
I know its not. It was another sister that was talking to another non muslim in the office about it. I gave her a look, and thought to myself..i give up ? I was just a little shocked a muslim saying that 2 a non muslim.
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LOL! neither did I. I think some muslims feel like they have to go out of their way to fit in maybe ?
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SubhanAllah, I have Muslim friends who celebrate it amongst themselves and it's a very sad thing to see. I asked them why they do it and they said that they feel jealous that our Non-Muslim friends get gifts and they don't. To me, that made absolute no sense because we have 2 eids alhamdulillah, so there was no point of being jealous.
I think the reason that we're starting to see Muslims celebrate Christmas is because Christmas has become one of those holidays that is no longer identified for 'Just Christians' to celebrate (like Halloween). But even if Christmas has become that, that doesn't mean we can celebrate it (same goes for Halloween) because no matter what, Christmas was never part of Islam.
Like what other celebrations (besides the ones I've mentioned), sister? imsad
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I actually got wished "merry christmas" by a family member, i replied simply to her, muslims dont celebrate its pagen in origin, b4 i got a reply of "its 2 early for your lecture". LOL! at least i tried i guess.
Wat i ment was there seems to be no excitement/eagerness for eid ramadan, yet muslims are more focused on other celebrations be they christian/pagan/hindu etc.
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I actually got wished "merry christmas" by a family member, i replied simply to her, muslims dont celebrate its pagen in origin, b4 i got a reply of "its 2 early for your lecture". LOL! at least i tried i guess.
lol, may Allah (SWT) reward you for your efforts.
Well here, some of us do the same thing for each Eid and perhaps it's starting to grow old for some. For example, after Salat ul-Eid, most of the Muslim youth end up watching a movie at the movie theater. So, that could be one reason for why Muslims aren't so excited for Eid.
Another reason could be that maybe we're surrounded by non-Muslims so much that we get excited just as much as they are... :hmm:
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at what point did the birth date of jesus AS become mixed up?
im just saying that although the celebration of birthdays are innovation, that very innovation could have removed the path for much worse innovation.
although all innovation is bad.
guess things take a natural progression beyond our control.
im just saying that although the celebration of birthdays are innovation, that very innovation could have removed the path for much worse innovation.
although all innovation is bad.
guess things take a natural progression beyond our control.
The date of birth was never in the Gospels or anything, M.I.A., that's the problem. It was supposed to have happened "while the shepherds were keeping watch over their flock by night" but there were many different points in the calendar when they might have been doing that. The Koran makes it a little bit clearer: it says he was born at a time when the dates on Palestinian date trees are ripe, which places it probably somewhere around late September or early October. I should mention, though, that I got this factoid from the tafsir notes of Rashad Khalifa, who as we all know is not the most reliable source in the world, but I imagine he was probably right about a simple scientific factoid like that--you might want to double check. I once heard that some group of Christians had supposedly calculated the date to being on or around September 27th, I think, so it fits.
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Christmas and the "holiday season" is indeed a big fitnah not only for Muslims living in the West, but now throughout the world, with the exception of Saudi Arabia and a few other more religious societies. I have seen the majority of Muslims where I live taking part in the "holiday season" to some extent, whether it be wishing people "merry christmas", "happy new year", or even going further by decorating their homes with lights and christmas decoration, etc.
All of this, of course, is forbidden in our Religion. Due to the weakness of the Muslims, a result of their being involved in sins and chasing after the world and being involved in polytheism and innovations, the Muslims are unable to avoid the temptation of the "Holiday Season" and participate in its evil.
The Muslims who strive to cling to the Sunnah and avoid innovation, however, should be congratulated for not being swept away by the irreligious habits of the masses and the mainstream. They are the "Ghurabaa" (Strangers) who receive the glad tidings of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم of Jannah, for rectifying themselves and reviving the Sunnah when the rest of the people have become corrupted.
Islaam has only two festivals, Eed ul Fitr and Eed ul Adhaa. The Sunnah of these festivals is to merely be happy on those days, offer the Eed prayers in the morning, perhaps eat a good meal and enjoy sweets. Nothing to fancy and nothing to extravagant.
Unfortunately, we see many Muslims trying to emulate the Christians and turn our religious festivals into something which resembles the extravagent festivals of the disbelievers, such as Christmas, Diwali, and Hanukkah.
They try to commercialize and materialize our religious holidays, and rob them of their spiritual significance.
Christmas and the "holiday season" is indeed a big fitnah not only for Muslims living in the West, but now throughout the world, with the exception of Saudi Arabia and a few other more religious societies. I have seen the majority of Muslims where I live taking part in the "holiday season" to some extent, whether it be wishing people "merry christmas", "happy new year", or even going further by decorating their homes with lights and christmas decoration, etc.
All of this, of course, is forbidden in our Religion. Due to the weakness of the Muslims, a result of their being involved in sins and chasing after the world and being involved in polytheism and innovations, the Muslims are unable to avoid the temptation of the "Holiday Season" and participate in its evil.
The Muslims who strive to cling to the Sunnah and avoid innovation, however, should be congratulated for not being swept away by the irreligious habits of the masses and the mainstream. They are the "Ghurabaa" (Strangers) who receive the glad tidings of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم of Jannah, for rectifying themselves and reviving the Sunnah when the rest of the people have become corrupted.
Islaam has only two festivals, Eed ul Fitr and Eed ul Adhaa. The Sunnah of these festivals is to merely be happy on those days, offer the Eed prayers in the morning, perhaps eat a good meal and enjoy sweets. Nothing to fancy and nothing to extravagant.
Unfortunately, we see many Muslims trying to emulate the Christians and turn our religious festivals into something which resembles the extravagent festivals of the disbelievers, such as Christmas, Diwali, and Hanukkah.
They try to commercialize and materialize our religious holidays, and rob them of their spiritual significance.
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Actually Jesus (p) was born in early fall:
وَهُزِّي إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَاقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًا جَنِيًّا {25}
[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 19:25] And shake the trunk of the palm-tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee.
[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 19:26] So eat and drink and be consoled. And if thou meetest any mortal, say: Lo! I have vowed a fast unto the Beneficent, and may not speak this day to any mortal.
Dates grow in that part of the world around early fall!
and Allah swt knows best
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Asalaamu Alaikum,
In Muslim countries EID is celebrated with alot of excitement/eagerness, people are all out on the streets celebrating etc.
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Such as ? by people on the streets you mean young chavs, playing their music loud, creating noise pollution & the sisters caked up, & half dressed like there on bollywood ? LOL! thats what the muslim youth today thinks eid is ? Thats the way eid is where i am in the UK. I dont think thats true representation of what eid means. Maybe its different in countries like saudi ?
you misunderstand your situation,
the muslim youth can go around playing music and the sisters can go around dolled up without being blown to bits or manhandled by the "constabulary"
they will have prayed in any one of the hundreds of mosques situated on every second street corner in your city.
the fact that you can tell they have there whole lives to mellow, learn deen and follow islam is a blessing.
if you dont mind em dying as "kaffir" today, then look at other places in the world.
sure you know the questions, did they pray? etc etc
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