how to pray

[lolwatever]

^ salamz actually the only obligatory part is

While sitting between the two sajdahs, place your left foot along the ground and sit on it,

and

You should also be relaxed such that every bone is in its proper position. Whilst in this position one should say::

Rabb ighfirlee wa irhamnee

The rest abotu the toes isn't (it pains me personally)... and i specificually looked it up in albanee's book on prayer.

tc salamz

 

[Malaikah]

woops i should have been more specific, i meant the part about saying: Rabb ighfirlee wa irhamnee

thats what ive never heard before

(yeh the toes thing hurts me too!)

 

[Malaikah]

Your Left buttocks should be on the floor. Your left leg should be bent. Outside of Left Femur should also be on the floor and your inside of your Left Tibia and foot should be protruding underneath the front of your Right Tibia (shin area).
Also the right foot can be placed upright with the toes pointing towards the qiblah or it can be placed on the ground.

In this position, you will be leaning heavily on the left hand (but make sure that your left hand is placed on your thigh/knee and not the floor).

^is that true too? never heard of this before either.. (its talking about while saying tashahud)

 

[syilla]

woops i should have been more specific, i meant the part about saying: Rabb ighfirlee wa irhamnee

thats what ive never heard before

(yeh the toes thing hurts me too!)

i always read that...

rabighfirlee war hamnee war jubnee war zuk nee wah deenee wa'afeenee....wa'fuanni....

 

[lolwatever]

Whilst sitting thus, he should say, “Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni wajburni, warfa’ni, wa’aafini warzuqni (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, strengthen me, raise me in status, pardon me and grant me provision).”

that seems to be the strongest i came across.

personally i use to say 'rabighfirlee warhamnee warzuqnee' i wonder fi there's evdience for that? i say that coz i learnt it off my parents...

salamz

 

[Dhulqarnaeen]

What we should realize is...eeeeeeeeeverything in doing ibadah to Allah, such as du'a, salah, fasting etc, for each of them have daleeeeeeeelll (evidences) from hadith. So thats why we are wajeeb to seek for evidences from Quran and Sunnah. We are wajeeb to do allllll ibadah according Quran and sunnah, wajeeb and may not do it according to:
1. Traditions.
2. Our parents teaching. I mean we may not take our parents teaching, or ustadh, or someone who dont have daleel from Quran and sunnah, cause it will just make the mistakes goes on.

For example, where do we put our hands after takbiratul ihram? To some people its small things right, so a lot of people underestimate it and pu te hands eeeeeeeeverywhere they like. Actually theres a distinct rules where we have to put our hands, so we have to look from hadith Rasulullah shalallahu alaihi wasalam that said we have to put our hands on our chest. And thats it, and no where else to put our hands except it. All the hadiths about putting our hands on the stomach and or on our left stomach, etc is nothing saheeh. Soooooo every little things about salah is IN THERE in hadith Rasulullah, and we may not contradict IT, like Rasulullah said :"shollu kama roaytumuuni usholli". "do salah like you see I do salah". (bukhari).

 

[lolwatever]

jazaks bro, could u lookup the thing about sitting down, coz the only 'saheeh' narration i foudn was what i came across tehre... which is diff 2 wat i grew up on till this day lol

salamz

 

[Malaikah]

^at least youve been saying something, ive never said anything at all:uuh:

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


I've heard in a lecture by Yasir Qadhi, that saying 'Rabigh fir lee' after getting up from the first sajdah is within the hanbali madhab - the opinion of imaam ahmad, and he mentioned that there is a hadith to support that.

Similarly, you notice how imaam ahmad was the one who said that eating camel meat broke a person's wudhu (ablution) - whereas the others never.


I'm just trying to point out that as long as the scholar has a authentic hadith to support their ruling, then we should follow the one with the better evidence/s. And we know that imaam ahmad had a massive collection of ahadith in his Musnad Ahmad.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


:wasalamex

 

[lolwatever]

^and rabighfirlee is based on an authetnic hadith right?


cheese, ok lol that's just weird hehe...

 

[- Qatada -]

^and rabighfirlee is based on an authetnic hadith right?


cheese, ok lol that's just weird hehe...

:salamext:


It probably is, because obviously - an imaam of fiqh wouldn't allow it unless it was. But i can't find it yet, it's harder to search for a hadith which you hear in a lecture - especially when they only mention that it's in a hadith but don't actually tell the wording lol.


Try downloading:

http://www.audioislam.com/?subcategory=Worship

Fiqh of Worship - by Yasir Qadhi


Allaah Almighty knows best.


:wasalamex

 

[lolwatever]

^ ok cool jazaks.. yeh i hate it too the thing about lectures n referencing

i dont like the summarised version of albanis prayer book coz its devoid of references too!! which is whee i got the qutoe from

salamz

 

[Malaikah]

so does anyone have a hadith or what?!

today people please! ive got to pray isha soon...

 

[Dhulqarnaeen]

jazaks bro, could u lookup the thing about sitting down, coz the only 'saheeh' narration i foudn was what i came across tehre... which is diff 2 wat i grew up on till this day lol

salamz

Bro...actually you can look in sheikh Albani's book "sifat salah Nabi", its complete. Since putting the sutrah and all, and it have takhreej too. And we shouldnt doubt his knowledges in ilmuhadith -rahimahullah-. He is muhaddith of the century and syaikh bin Baz said "he is mujaddid of the century", Allahu a'lam cause syaikh Albani also said syaikh bin Bazz is the mujadid of the century too .

So...about the sitting down?
If we salah in salah which have two rakaah, then the sitting is "iftirash", we sit on our left feet and we make our right feets fingers like....mmm I dunno how to explain in english I think you know already right. Its like we point our right fingers to the ground by out feets thumb (I hope U understand :uhwhat ). But its still ikhtilaf bainal ulama, but Allahu a'lam the stronger hujjah is iftirash.

And if we salah in salah which have 3 or 4 rakaah, then we sit iftirash in rakaah 2 and we sit "tawaruk" in the last rakaah. Tawaruk will be like we put our left foot under our bottom but we dont sit on it. And we make our right foot same like iftirash.

And how to sit everytime we sit in salah, example in first rakaah when we say dua "rabbighfilee warhamnee...", in here we sit iftirash, and also theres a sit that we rarely know, its called sitting "iq'aa" (If I am not mistaken its called iq'aa). Iq'aa means we sit on our both foots calfes, and we make our sole meet together and we place our bottom on our soles. Allahu a'lam I heard my ustadh told me taht it was done by Rasulullah ahyaanan, just sometimes. And not everytime in salah. But some of my ustadh explain we may do it in everytime we salah, cause its sunnah. Allahu A'lam. Maybe someone can complete my explanation insha Allah.

And there are different kind of dua in sitting, just check it out in syaikh Albanis book. Or if you want more complete book, read the book of syaikh Albanis student who is expert in fiqh, ya'ni syaikh Mashoor bin Salman -hafidhahullah-, the title is "the total correction about salah", thats the title means in Indo at least. I forget the title in Arabic, wallahul mustaan.
And there are also books by syaikh Abdul aziz bin Bazz, syaikh Al Qahthany, Syaikh Fawzan and etc. And if theres a differences between them, we should know that its ikhtilaf, and we may take one of their opinion, insha Allah. Just dont make a fuss on it, thats the best insha Allah.

 

[Dhulqarnaeen]

:salamext:


It probably is, because obviously - an imaam of fiqh wouldn't allow it unless it was. But i can't find it yet, it's harder to search for a hadith which you hear in a lecture - especially when they only mention that it's in a hadith but don't actually tell the wording lol.


Try downloading:

http://www.audioislam.com/?subcategory=Worship

Fiqh of Worship - by Yasir Qadhi
Allaah Almighty knows best.


:wasalamex

Yes right yaa akhee. And for me, if I heard a lecture and the ustadh just said "its in hadith" and didnt tell me the hadith and the takhreej, then I will try to find out after that, doing a research. Cause eeeeeeeeevery asatidhah can say its in hadith but most of them actually dont know the authentic hadith which we can lean on to. S just accept an ustadh which tells the at least the takhreej, wether its from the shahihain, or some sunans, so it can be acceptable.
And the shaikh Albanis book is just a summary I think. I havent seen the real one in Arabic. But what I got in Indo is just a summary and full with hadith. But I think this is enough for us as our reference and we can practise the hadiths still right? As for me, I think the safest ways is to read the book about doing salah from salafy scholars, cause its ilmiyah, and they always put the takhreej and there the most alim about hadith insha Allah.
And I agree imam Ahmad is the most knowledgable in hadith, and he had a tazkiyah from his teacher in fiqh, Al Imam Asy Syafi'i who ever said "Yaa Ahmad, if you got hadith from people in Basrah, or syam or somewhere, please tell me so I can confirm to it, and I can rujuu' from my previous opinion". And if we talk about salah, I suggest we should be carefull with the opinion of Imam Hanafi. Cause theres some hadith which is not sahih included. Example putting the hands on stomach, etc. But basically like Imam Malik said "All opinion can be rejected, except the opinion of the owner of this grave (Rasulullah shalallahu alaihi wasallam)". So just accept a teaching and opinions which based with hadith sahih no matter which Imam revealed the opinion. Just info, insha Allah manfaat.
If I made mistakes, please correct me insha Allah. Allahu a'lam bisshowab

 

[lolwatever]

If we salah in salah which have two rakaah, then the sitting is "iftirash", we sit on our left feet and we make our right feets fingers like....mmm I dunno how to explain in english I think you know already right. Its like we point our right fingers to the ground by out feets thumb (I hope U understand :uhwhat ). But its still ikhtilaf bainal ulama, but Allahu a'lam the stronger hujjah is iftirash.

jazaks akh dhulqarnayn, yeh i got that book but i hav the summarised version which is missing the evidence das y i asked so cheese know where it came from....

also that above quote, he specifically says that the only bit that's compulsary is to sit 'leaning' on the right leg or watever it is.. but the toes bit isn't compulsary (this is in mukhtasar sifat salat enabi).

 

[Malaikah]

^what do u mean by leaning on the right foot? :?

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

^and rabighfirlee is based on an authetnic hadith right?


cheese, ok lol that's just weird hehe...

brothers and sisters. this is wha can be saidwhen sitting between the 2 sajoods:

rabigfirli, rabigfirli (My Lord forgive me, My Lord forgive me)
(Abu dawood 1/231, see Sahih ibn majah 1/148)

or:

allahumagfirlee, warhamnee, wahdinee, wajbornee, wa afinee, waroqnee, warfa'nee
(O allah, forgive me, have mercy upon mew, guide me, enrichme, give me health, grant me sustenanence, and raise my rank.)'

(abu dawud, At-tirmithi and ibn majah, see: sahih at-timithi 1/90 and sahih ibn majah 1/148)


both duas where extracted from 'fortres of the muslim', reseached and compiled by: sahikh said bin wahf Al-qartani.

 

[lolwatever]

jazaks sis maryam! really appreciate it.

^what do u mean by leaning on the right foot? :?

sorry im not good at describing postures... does ne1 know wat im on about n describe it 2 her pls? lol


i THINK it might be this bit:

Your Left buttocks should be on the floor. Your left leg should be bent. Outside of Left Femur should also be on the floor and your inside of your Left Tibia and foot should be protruding underneath the front of your Right Tibia (shin area).

KINDA liek this?

lol
salams

 

[syilla]

i always read that...

rabighfirlee war hamnee war jubnee war zuk nee wah deenee wa'afeenee....wa'fuanni....

someone should translate this for me...the meaning is awesome...i have it in bm...and i'm nooottt soooo good with translation