How well do you know the Anbiyaa (alayhim assalaam)?

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Whenever a person is murdered unjustly, there is a share from the burden of the crime on the first son of Adam for he was the first to start the tradition of murdering." (Sahih al-Bukhari 3335)

'Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported: Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) having said: No person who is killed unjustly, but the share of (this offence of his also) falls upon the first son of Adam, for he was the first to introduce killing. (Sahih Muslim 1677)
 
[MENTION=37063]shafat10[/MENTION], a point that passed over my threshold of awareness, that we are descendants of the one who murdered his twin brother...

:peace:


it applies to everyone depending on the share they contribute:

Jarîr relates that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“Whoever initiates a good practice (sunnah hasanah) in Islam and is emulated by others in doing so will get the reward of it and the reward of all those who act upon it without their rewards being diminished in any respect.
And whosoever initiates an evil practice (sunnah sayyi’ah) in Islam and is emulated by others will bear the sin of it and the sin of all those who act on it without their burden being diminished in the least. ”
[Sahîh Muslim: (1017)]

http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-426-3238.htm

when the angels asked if Allah would place on earth as vicegerent one who would make mischief and shed blood whilst the angels glorified Allah's praises and sanctified Him, Allah replied that He knew what the angels knew not
the man who's never been affected by error and has never repented is a man who carries loads of baggage, a weak link in the streamlining process.

we write good into our genome and it gets passed on we'll receive a reward,
we write crap into it and pass on those traits and we'll suffer the burden which is why repentance is a healing and not only a healing but discarding of a bad trait.


Ancient Humans Had A Lot More DNA Than We Do
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ancestral-human-genome-contained-lot-more-dna-ours

it appears that truth strengthens via discarding of errors since the straight path is already there and needs to be adhered to

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/abz2000123/Islam/20151026_030328_zps4rjlgmha.jpg


“All human beings are sinners; the best of the sinners are those who repent.” (Ibn Majah, Zuhd, 30)

“If you were not to commit sins, Allah would sweep you out of existence and would replace you by other people who would commit sins, and then would ask forgiveness from Allah.”
(Muslim, Tawbah, 9, 10, 11)

consider that the original kjv contains 774,746 words, the Quran around 77,500, the first chapters are long and the last are short.
 
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Day Two: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

2. Who were the first people to inhabit earth?

This is again a pre-historical issue which has no definitive answer. However, according to some historical narrations, after Allah created the earth, He sent a creation known as Hinn and Binn, who were lower forms of Jinn, to reside on earth. Some scientists also speak of a creation known as Neanderthals who inhabited the earth about 6000 years before the coming of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). The purpose of all these creations were to recognise and worship Allah, similar to the purpose of human beings on this earth. Be that it may be, when these creations revolted against Allah, Allah created another species of living beings 600 000 years in the skies before the creation of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). They were called Jinn.
 
This is again a pre-historical issue which has no definitive answer. However, according to some historical narrations, after Allah created the earth, He sent a creation known as Hinn and Binn, who were lower forms of Jinn, to reside on earth. Some scientists also speak of a creation known as Neanderthals who inhabited the earth about 6000 years before the coming of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). The purpose of all these creations were to recognise and worship Allah, similar to the purpose of human beings on this earth. Be that it may be, when these creations revolted against Allah, Allah created another species of living beings 600 000 years in the skies before the creation of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). They were called Jinn.

They are also Temm, Remm, Hinn, Binn, Jinn and Dimm (Adam - Humans)
 
This is again a pre-historical issue which has no definitive answer. However, according to some historical narrations, after Allah created the earth, He sent a creation known as Hinn and Binn, who were lower forms of Jinn, to reside on earth. Some scientists also speak of a creation known as Neanderthals who inhabited the earth about 6000 years before the coming of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). The purpose of all these creations were to recognise and worship Allah, similar to the purpose of human beings on this earth. Be that it may be, when these creations revolted against Allah, Allah created another species of living beings 600 000 years in the skies before the creation of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). They were called Jinn.
I thought revolting jinn or angels were responsible for the fall of mankind and our attainment of ****ing knowledge. Beyond that they Laid with human women producing atrocious massive destructive anomalies. These offspring and the sinful acts of the rebellious angels where the cause or the flood in the times of Noah.
This is based on my interpretation of the book of Enoch; a text that should be in the bible, but is not due to the initial misdirection of the traditional Roman Catholic church.
 
Assalamo alaikum

What’s going on here? I have objections.

O Muslims, you must remember that you have to be Muslims no matter what. A Muslim is the one who submits his / her will to the will of Allah. We have to know the will of Allah from the Holy Quran and the Sunnah of the final Prophet Muhammad Salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam.

Here are many kinds of statements in this thread. I have heard such things before but I couldn’t find any proof of their truth from the Holy Quran or the Sunnah. For example, the Holy Quran repeatedly emphasizes that Prophet Muhammad Salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam was a bashar, i.e. a human being. Quran is the Noor (Light) revealed to him so the Noor was with him but he himself was a human being.

Allah says about the Quran that it is Noor, but doesn’t say the same about the Prophet Muhammad Salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam.

Similarly saying that Muhammad Salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam was the first to be created, where is the evidence for such statements?

We know from the Holy Quran that history of humankind started with Adam alaihi Assalaam – even when he didn’t come down to the earth. But the history of the earth before the creation of Adam alaihi assalaam is not significant concerning the life of the Prophets alaihimus-salam and their duties.

The word Ambiya is not found in the Holy Quran and Sunnah because it is always written as Anbiyaa (plural of Nabi) and not as Ambiyaa. Moreover, the Anbiya alaihimus-salaam were men of very high status as they were the Representatives of Allah to guide mankind on the Straight Path. So the word must be written with respect, saying and writing “alaihimus-salaam always”.

Please don’t be like Christians who made Jesus equal to God as well as the son of God. God is high above such weaknesses and God is One, Single and Unique Who has no son or relative. Keep Muhammad Salla Allaho alaihi wa. sallam at the level that Allah has given him.
 
assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatAllahi wa barakaatuhu,
sister i like the way you stepped down in that post, it shows a passion to adhere to the guidance of Allah and that is wonderful,
it appears however that we need to gain a wider understanding of certain issues in order to answer smaller questions, this has been indicated to us in the fact that Allah has mentioned many things in the Quran that have only been slightly comprehended by the research and advancement of our current time, the gifts that we need to apply are humility and 'aql, consider also that we sometimes have to go to the hadith in order to understand a Quranic verse despite the hadith containing many truths, errors and fabrications, it will become obvious that the intelligence and compiled plus newfound additional knowledge are required in comprehending certain statements made in the Quran.
consider the apes and swine verse and then correlate it with the dna proximity and i'm sure it will strengthen rather than weaken your faith in Allah's wisdom, the issue of Qadr, and the Prophet pbuh's truthfulness.
i'm certain that given these verses and their relationship to recent findings, any person would have difficulty believing that Adam was beamed down like arnold schwarzenegger or rowan atkinson.


also consider the fact that all of these creatures diverge into "khalqan aakhar" "other/different /new creatures" at a certain stage in development and compare it with the verse:





 
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I have no clue about the right answer however I like to check out your answers.
 
Allah created another species of living beings 600 000 years in the skies before the creation of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎). They were called Jinn.

:salam:

Is it possible, that for our own learning, the authentic hadith to support this is quoted, along with it's reference? And if that could please be done with any Islamic facts quoted that may not commonly be known. As an example I didn't know jinn were created 600,000 years before Adam alayhissalaam.

:jz:
 
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I get the feeling these references are dodgy as anything.

I've never read about 600,000 years of Jinn living on earth.

I too would like proof - I am a skeptical person by nature and do not believe people easily - especially anonymous shaikhs on forums.

Scimi
 
I thought revolting jinn or angels were responsible for the fall of mankind and our attainment of ****ing knowledge. Beyond that they Laid with human women producing atrocious massive destructive anomalies. These offspring and the sinful acts of the rebellious angels where the cause or the flood in the times of Noah.
This is based on my interpretation of the book of Enoch; a text that should be in the bible, but is not due to the initial misdirection of the traditional Roman Catholic church.
Greetings popsthebuilder.

In Islam, we do not believe that angels revolt against God. They never tire of remembering and worshipping God and faithfully carrying out their duties. Only humans and jinn have the capacity to do this. So angels will never revolt against God. Shatyan/Iblees/the devil, is a jinn.

Also, we do not believe in the concept of ****ation. There is no concept of original sin, nor of God expecting perfection which cannot be achieved, nor of a broken relationship with God that requires reconciling, nor of ****ation requiring a saviour. Forgiveness is directly from God. Prayer is directly to God. God is the God of all, even of those who don't believe in Him.

In Islam, as Adam (peace be upon him) asked for forgiveness and was forgiven, so we too ask for Allah's forgiveness for sins we commit, as He loves for us to turn to Him in repentance, and loves forgiving. This forgiveness comes freely, just by Allah's will, when we sincerely ask for forgiveness and truly repent. Forgiveness does not require any type of sacrifice by God. Both Adam and Eve (peace be on them both) repented and were forgiven by their Merciful Lord; and indeed Adam (peace be on him) was then chosen to be the first person to receive guidance from Allah, was honoured by Allah, and is counted among all the other Prophets of Islam. While guidance and the right way has been shown to us, we, as humans, have the freedom to choose, to err, and to repent sincerely, and should we do so, we will find Allah Forgiving. For all in the posterity of Adam (peace be on him), the door of returning to the right path is always open, prior to death. And we invite you to it.

Peace.
 
3. Why did Allah create the Jinn?

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Sahih International
And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.

Surah adh-Dhaariyaat, surah no 51, ayah 56
 
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Sahih International
And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.

Surah adh-Dhaariyaat, surah no 51, ayah 56

would just like to add that the term 'abd which is commonly translated as "worship" means to serve Allah with full devotion in all spheres including but not limited to prayer, sacrifice, living, dying, eating, giving.
mentioned it because some have mistakenly told me that worship / 'ibaadah means praying and chanting adhkaar.
 
:salam:

Only the angels were created from light. Our beloved prophet :saws: was a human being like us whom Allah preferred and chose above us with prophethood and revelation. He can only be said to be a guiding light, but not physically made of noor/light. Also reports about the Earth having being created only for the Prophet :saws: are very weak/fabricated. See the following links:

http://islamqa.info/en/75395
http://islamqa.info/en/4509
http://islamqa.info/en/23290

Surah Maidah 5:15

يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ قَدْ جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولُنَا يُبَيِّنُ لَكُمْ كَثِيرًا مِمَّا كُنْتُمْ تُخْفُونَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَيَعْفُو عَنْ كَثِيرٍ ۚ قَدْ جَاءَكُمْ مِنَ اللَّهِ نُورٌ وَكِتَابٌ مُبِينٌ

O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book.]

 
^ the light would be the guidance of Allah

from Quran:
true we are mortals like you
am i anything but a man, a messenger?
the messengers we sent before you were men who walked through the markets and ate food
they (jesus and mary) had both to eat their daily food, see how we make the signs clear to them yet see in what ways they are perverted?

light can enter any person and elevate them to highly concentrated status if they believe in, submit to, and seek to please Allah, until Allah is manifested in their hands with which they strike and feet with which they walk, but the person themselves are just a vessel and that doesn't give the person a share in divinity.
the prophet pbuh would pray for Allah to surround him with light and also taught us to pray in a similar fashion.
peace

`Umar b. al-Khattâb relates that Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Do not praise me excessively like the Christians praised Jesus, the son of Mary. I am but a servant, so call me Allah’s servant and Messenger.”
[Sahîh al –Bukhârî*(4/142)]*

http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-267-3183.htm

Hadith Qudsi

It was related by al-Bukhari

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:

Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:
Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him.
When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks.
Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it.
I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him.



.عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ:*" إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ قَالَ: مَنْ عَادَى لِي وَلِيًّا، فَقَدْ آذَنْتُهُ بِالْحَرْبِ، وَمَا تَقَرَّبَ إِلَيَّ عَبْدِي بِشَيْءٍ أَحَبَّ إِلَيَّ مِمَّا افْتَرَضْتُ عَلَيْهِ، وَمَا يَزَالُ عَبْدِي يَتَقَرَّبُ إِلَيَّ بِالنَّوَافِلِ حَتَّى أُحِبَّهُ، فَإِذَا أَحْبَبْتُهُ، كُنْتُ سَمْعَهُ الَّذِي يَسْمَعُ بِهِ، وَبَصَرَهُ الَّذِي يُبْصِرُ بِهِ، وَيَدَهُ الَّتِي يَبْطِشُ بِهَا، وَرِجْلَهُ الَّتِي يَمْشِي بِهَا، وَإِنْ سَأَلَنِي لَأُعْطِيَنَّهُ، وَلَئِنْ اسْتَعَاذَنِي لَأُعِيذَنَّهُ، وَمَا تَرَدَّدْتُ عَنْ شَيْءٍ أَنَا فَاعِلُهُ تَرَدُّدِي عَنْ نَفْسِ عَبْدِي الْمُؤْمِنِ، يَكْرَهُ الْمَوْتَ وَأَنَا أَكْرَهُ مَسَاءَتَهُ"*رواه البخاري

Arabic/English book reference*:*Hadith 25

Ibn 'Abbas reported: I spent a night with my material aunt (sister of my mother) Maimuna. The Prophet of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) got up during the night and relieved himself, then washed his face and hands and went to sleep. He then got up again, and came to the water skin and loosened its straps, then performed good ablution between the two extremes. He then stood up and observed prayer. I also stood up and stretched my body fearing that he might be under the impression that I was there to find out (what he did at night). So I also performed ablution and stood up to pray, but I stood on his left. He took hold of my hand and made me go round to his right side.
The Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) completed thirteen rak'abs of his night prayer. He then lay down and slept and snored (and it was his habit to snore while asleep). Then Bilal came and he informed him about the prayer. He (the Prophet) then stood up for prayer and did not perform ablution, and his supplication included there words:"

O Allaah, place light in my heart, light in my sight, light in my hearing, light on my right hand, light on my left hand, light above me, light below me, light in front of me, light behind me, and enhance light for me."

Kuraib (the narrator) said: There are seven (words more) which are in my heart (but I cannot recall them) and I met some of the descendants of 'Abbas and they narrated these words to me and mentioned in them: (Light) in my sinew, in my flesh, in my blood, in my hair, in my skin, and made a mention of two more things.

http://www.sahihmuslim.com/SPS/smm/sahihmuslim.cfm?scn=dspchaptersfull&ChapterID=268&BookID=4
 
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Our noble prophet muhammad dabiq was not made of physical light, he was a guiding light and an embodiment of guidance. some traditions state that this light of guidance and prophethood was first transferred in his ancestors on their foreheads, and was then transferred to the lower back of the rest of his lineage.
 
Greetings popsthebuilder.

In Islam, we do not believe that angels revolt against God. They never tire of remembering and worshipping God and faithfully carrying out their duties. Only humans and jinn have the capacity to do this. So angels will never revolt against God. Shatyan/Iblees/the devil, is a jinn.

Also, we do not believe in the concept of ****ation. There is no concept of original sin, nor of God expecting perfection which cannot be achieved, nor of a broken relationship with God that requires reconciling, nor of ****ation requiring a saviour. Forgiveness is directly from God. Prayer is directly to God. God is the God of all, even of those who don't believe in Him.

In Islam, as Adam (peace be upon him) asked for forgiveness and was forgiven, so we too ask for Allah's forgiveness for sins we commit, as He loves for us to turn to Him in repentance, and loves forgiving. This forgiveness comes freely, just by Allah's will, when we sincerely ask for forgiveness and truly repent. Forgiveness does not require any type of sacrifice by God. Both Adam and Eve (peace be on them both) repented and were forgiven by their Merciful Lord; and indeed Adam (peace be on him) was then chosen to be the first person to receive guidance from Allah, was honoured by Allah, and is counted among all the other Prophets of Islam. While guidance and the right way has been shown to us, we, as humans, have the freedom to choose, to err, and to repent sincerely, and should we do so, we will find Allah Forgiving. For all in the posterity of Adam (peace be on him), the door of returning to the right path is always open, prior to death. And we invite you to it.

Peace.
I agree totally. Perhaps you have separate words for angels and fallen angels(jinn?) The only sacrifice that is needed is That of sin, through repentance. We are on the same page here. We seem to have differing terms defining the same things is all. I appreciate your clarification and in no way mean any disrespect. Do you believe that Ibilis is the only jinn, or are there others? Forgiveness and mercy are huge and a reciprocal way of direction under God that we receive and are to give. However you cannot idoly ask forgiveness without repentance( turning from sin that you asked forgiveness for). God is a God of mercy. We are but men. This doesn't mean we can continually sin and simultaneously be forgiven for the same wrongs that have been brought to light personally under God.
 

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