How well do you know the Anbiyaa (alayhim assalaam)?

[Abz2000]

sister insaanah's post has helped shed more light upon the topc, Jazaakallahu khairan everybody who's trying and adding to the discussion.

It's not mandatory that one has to know how to write and read in order to receive a message. Our Prophet PBUH was illiterate, wasn't he? So didn't any revelation come to him?

yes, revelation came to the final messenger (pbuh) orally, however was destined to make book form, dhaalika al kitaabu laa rayba feehi.
what i meant was that what came to Adam (pbuh) and the first offspring was guidance as wahi (the fact that they made sacrifices to Allah indicates that they were working according to some instructions) and signs in creation (the crow digging the earth) but not scripture or laws set in stone, it appears that they started off being tested on their deeds and initiative based on their good judgement while assisted with a few clues, it was only after they messed up real bad that messengers came.

Yah, every Messenger is a Prophet but every Prophet is not a Messenger.

A Messenger is someone to whom a message has been given, a revelation, a risala, hence the name Rasool.
On the other hand, a Prophet is someone who preaches the previous messages sent to the community. No new message or revelation, or risala is given to him.

Hence every Messenger is a Prophet but every Prophet is not a Messenger, hope this helps.

Which would return to the suggestion that nabis follow something already in place and confirm a shariah that the people are already upon, only settling differences but making no major changes, and rasuls either bring about a revolution in a rebellious nation or make drastic reforms.
if the hadith of Nuh (pbuh) being the first messenger has been remembered and recorded correctly, Adam (pbuh) would be a Nabi only required to conform and work within the fitrah, though he pbuh didn't have to follow any Messengers before him,
i'm just musing and pondering and Allah (the Most High, Perfect and Wise) knows best.

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Ten: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

10. Why did Allah name the first human “Adam”?

Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) was given this name due to his wheaty-brownish complexion. In this world, he was also known as Abul Bashr (Father of Mankind) and Safiyullah (The Chosen one of Allah). When he returns to paradise for the second time, he will be known as Abu Muhammad. (Al-Bidayah wan Nihayah of ibn Kathir, vol. 1, page 97)

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Eleven: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

11. Allah mentions in the Qur’an that mankind has been created with dirt or soil. How did it happen?

 

[Abz2000]

in paradise or on earth?

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Eleven: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

11. Allah mentions in the Qur’an that mankind has been created with dirt or soil. How did it happen?

When Allah decided to create Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) after being disappointed at the Jinn, He first fashioned his lifeless mould from soil that the Angel of Death had collected from different parts of the earth. Thus, Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) possessed all the qualities and colours of the soil he was created from. His progeny too, will have different qualities depending on the material he was created from – from mountains or valleys, red or black, tough or soft. This soil was then mixed with water and left to dry for a period of 40 years on a road between Makkah and Ta‘if (Arabia) until it became clinging mud, and made a ringing sound. This mixture was again left to dry for another 40 years until it became black, smooth and smelly. Mankind was created from this mixture. (Qur’an 15:26-33)

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Twelve: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

12. When this mould of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) was being left to mature, did it have any visitors? Also, when did the soul enter the body and where?

 

[Abz2000]

God knows where the mold was but i gathered that the visitor was Iblis who saw Adams hollowness and realized that he was weak, so he said something along the lines of: you have been chosen over me though i am bettrr, if i am given power over you, i will lead you astray, and if you are given power over me, i will disobey you.
however, he didn't know of the evolving mindset of Adam and it's ability to get wiser and more intelligent through every stage.
and Allah knows best.
shaytaan is in for a big surprise.

 

[saif-uddin]

M.I.A

The Qur'an indicates Jinns existed before Human beings explicitly.

 

[saif-uddin]

Whether the Jinns roamed the Earth before the creation of Adam عليه السلام‎ or not is irrelevant

 

[saif-uddin]

Create beneficial threads please brothers,

Let's not argue about and dwell on matters which have no relevance to us

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Twelve: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

12. When this mould of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) was being left to mature, did it have any visitors? Also, when did the soul enter the body and where?

What a strange question, but the answer is “Yes.” Out of curiosity, the angels and jinn ascending and descending from the heavens would inspect the mould. Iblees, in particular, discovered the hollowness of the body and exclaimed: “This creation is very weak. If I’m given influence over you, I will mislead you.” Finally, when the mould had the capacity to transform in to a human, Allah then placed a heart within it and blew a soul in to it. This took place on a Friday, after which the body was transported back to paradise, or an “interim paradise” according to some scholars. (Tafseer Baidawi of ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Umar al-Baidawi, vol. 1, page 254)

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Thirteen: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

13. When the soul was placed in his body, Allah ordered all of creation to prostrate to Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) as a mark of respect. Initially, the angels were surprised that Allah would place mankind on earth as they had witnessed the Jinn create havoc thereon, but Allah told them: “I know what you know not.” The angels also soon came to realise the Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) had knowledge, and although they were super worshippers, they lacked in this vital regard. After this, everyone besides Iblees, prostrated. He abused his logic as opposed to obeying Allah’s command. Why did he do it?

 

[Abz2000]

because he was a racist bigot who thought that he was somehow better due to physical composition rather than closeness to God.

(one queation brother, if you don't mind please answer, if not - don't: are you into exorcism and taweez?)

 

[OmAbdullah]

sister i totally agree with you on your position on baseless conjecture, there have been incidences in the past too that some scholars have fallen into that trap, we must however know that Allah Himself tell us in the Quran to seek truth, use our intellects and adopt it as the way, the Quran doesn't need to tell you that tony blair exists, you find that out from your intellect, i bet you've never seen him face to face though

we use the Quran and sunnah as a guiding principle in our lives and even with some of the sahih graded hadith there are fabrications which must be looked at and weighed based upon gained knowledge and intellect, the prophet pbuh was never shy to adopt a good practice even if it was entrusted in the hands of people who opposed him, we can see this from the fast of ashura, the fact that he pbuh adopted the stoning for adultery rule from the torah, and many other practices.
Allah has given you an intellect, people who limit themselves to only what knowledge they perceive as their owndeprive themselves of moving forward because All knowledge is from Allah, we should seek the truth and accept it.
again, regarding some of the conjecture concerning the origin and time of earthly rule of jinn, personally i agree that it appears baseless but it's not haram to preserve such information. i would not throw it in the bin in case it can be used to understand future findings but i definitely would neither confirm nor deny it unless more solid evidence was available to support or contradict it.
the knowledge either came from a source and the origins are lost, or it's fabricated, Allah knows best.
the Quran and Sunnah however are the begining of knowledge, and a person's knowledge cannot be even fractionally completed on the day they die, though the reading of the Quran and hadith can.
the reason why we accept the Quran as truth is because our knowledge and intelligence compel us to, otherwise we'd be following anything we found our parents upon.
the way i see it, the more people do halal (not nazi mk ultra style) research and make new findings, the more they'll come to the truth, and if i was afraid of them coming to the truth, it would mean that i am not upon the truth.
below is the story of a man who came to the conclusion that Jesus Christ was neither killed nor crucified, he explains the delving he did and the ancient documents he found, then analysed, the obstacles which confronted him, and the controversy he caused, however, being an open minded scholar, he couldn't accept standing upon falsehood just because everyone else around him thought it was unfashionable to think critically and speak the truth:
the screenshots uploaded in an incorrect order but the page numbers are at the tops of the pages, they are regarding documents, most likely prophecies abot the second coming:

http://s248.photobucket.com/user/abz2000123/library/the jesus papers - intro

Please don't say that the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam took some or many practices from the Tawrah, this is false accusation on Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. Also you must know that "stoning to death" Law in case of married adulterer, came down to Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam from Allah directly. The Jews by that time had changed this Law to another punishment. If they would find a criminal of high status, they would ignore his crime. But in case of a low status sinner, they would make him sit on a donkey with his face made black and turned backwards so that people could see him. Please read the tafseer of surah Al-Ma'idah verse 43 for details. I think it is this aayah behind which is a long story of such a case which was somehow brought to our Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam for Judgement. He decided stoning for it and asked their scolars, who were denying the law of stoning in their religion. As our Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam knew that originally Allah had given them also the law of stoning to death but their scholars were liars and were denying the fact. So the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam told them to take oath and say the truth. Then only one of the scholars said the truth that they had the law of stoning but they had changed it.

Also in fasting on the 10th of Muharram, the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam didn't follow the Jews. Rather he got all knowledge, Commands and guidance from Allah alone. It is the munaafiqeen who make such false statements, and it is your and our duty to be careful from them them

 

[OmAbdullah]

Who told you that it's in Turkey ? their mountain is named Ararat and not Al Judi, because if you say this you will be following the Bible and not the Quran.

And who even said that Al Judi is a mountain ?

There is nothing in the Quran that can indicate your sayings, as for the boat that was found in Turkey, it could be a trick from the government of Turkey so it can attract more tourists.

Surah Hud verse 44, its English translation is :

44. And it was said, "O earth, swallow your water,and O sky, withhold [your rain]." And the water subsided, and the matterwas accomplished, and the ship came to rest on the [mountain of] Judiyy. And itwas said, "Away with the wrongdoing people."

All readers should read this verse 44 of surah Hud in which Allah the Greatest informed us about the ark of Nuh alaihi salaam stopping at Judi mountain. The tafseer gives details about its location that it is at a central point of Iraq, Turkey and ....... (Syria probably ). I have to revise its location but it is related to Turkey. Right now I am getting late for my prayer.

I am surprised how can a person be so brave in telling lies. You must remember that lie has no legs to stand upon. Your statement is a proof that you know nothing from Quraan about the story of Prophet Nuh alaihi salaam, but you are saying to me that I am taking the things from Bible!!!

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Thirteen: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

13. When the soul was placed in his body, Allah ordered all of creation to prostrate to Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) as a mark of respect. Initially, the angels were surprised that Allah would place mankind on earth as they had witnessed the Jinn create havoc thereon, but Allah told them: “I know what you know not.” The angels also soon came to realise the Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) had knowledge, and although they were super worshippers, they lacked in this vital regard. After this, everyone besides Iblees, prostrated. He abused his logic as opposed to obeying Allah’s command. Why did he do it?

Iblees desired the position of being Allah’s vicegerent on earth, so out of pride, he refused to prostrate. He made an excuse that he was superior to Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) because he was made of smokeless, searing fire, and the latter was made of dried clay comprising of altered black mud. He also came to realizes that is was the knowledge of Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎) that made him eligible for vicegerency and superior to his acts of ostentatious piety. (Qur’an 17:61-65)

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

Day Fourteen: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

14. When Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎)’s soul was being inserted into him, he sneezed when it reached his nose. On this, he said: “Alhamdulillah.” How did Allah reply to this?

 

[Abz2000]

Day Fourteen: Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎):

14. When Sayyadina Adam (عليه السلام‎)’s soul was being inserted into him, he sneezed when it reached his nose. On this, he said: “Alhamdulillah.” How did Allah reply to this?

YarhamukAllah

 

[Abz2000]

Please don't say that the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam took some or many practices from the Tawrah, this is false accusation on Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. Also you must know that "stoning to death" Law in case of married adulterer, came down to Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam from Allah directly. The Jews by that time had changed this Law to another punishment. If they would find a criminal of high status, they would ignore his crime. But in case of a low status sinner, they would make him sit on a donkey with his face made black and turned backwards so that people could see him. Please read the tafseer of surah Al-Ma'idah verse 43 for details. I think it is this aayah behind which is a long story of such a case which was somehow brought to our Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam for Judgement. He decided stoning for it and asked their scolars, who were denying the law of stoning in their religion. As our Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam knew that originally Allah had given them also the law of stoning to death but their scholars were liars and were denying the fact. So the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam told them to take oath and say the truth. Then only one of the scholars said the truth that they had the law of stoning but they had changed it.

Also in fasting on the 10th of Muharram, the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam didn't follow the Jews. Rather he got all knowledge, Commands and guidance from Allah alone. It is the munaafiqeen who make such false statements, and it is your and our duty to be careful from them them

The hadith is in Sahih Muslim and attributed to al baraa bin azib although it sounds dodgy, the case where abdullah ibn salam got them to move their hand when reading the torah makes more sense and it appears to be corroborated by witnesses while the above sounds third hand, also it wasn't the habit of the Prophet pbuh to grab them off the streets, he'd normally turn his face away a few times first.
I'm linking it here and you can do a word search for "revive" if you want to:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/017-smt.php

Here's the one from ibn abbas regarding the attempt to falsify and abdullah ibn salam (ex-jewish scholar)'s rebuttal:

Book 017, Number 4211:Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that a Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) who had committed adultery. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to the Jews and said: What do you find in Torah for one who commits adultery? They said: We darken their faces and make them ride on the donkey with their faces turned to the opposite direction (and their backs touching each other), and then they are taken round (the city).
He said: Bring Torah if you are truthful. They brought it and recited it until when they came to the verse pertaining to stoning, the person who was reading placed his hand on the verse pertaining to stoning, and read (only that which was) between his hands and what was subsequent to that.
Abdullah b. Salim who was at that time with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Command him (the reciter) to lift his hand. He lifted it and there was, underneath that, the verse pertaining to stoning. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about both of them and they were stoned. Abdullah b. 'Umar said: I was one of those who stoned them, and I saw him (the Jew) protecting her (the Jewess) with his body.

Regarding the 10th Muharram it is clear:

Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: "The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came to Madinah and saw the Jews fasting on the day of*'Ashura'.
He said, 'What is this?'
They said, 'This is a righteous day, it is the day when Allah saved the Children of Israel from their enemies, so Musa fasted on this day.'
He said,*'We have more right to Musa than you,'
so he fasted on that day and commanded [the Muslims] to fast on that day."
[Reported by al-Bukhari, 1865]

"This is a righteous day" – in a report narrated by Muslim, [the Jews said:] "This is a great day, on which Allah saved Musa and his people, and drowned Pharaoh and his people."
"Musa fasted on this day" – a report narrated by Muslim adds: " … in thanksgiving to Allah, so we fast on this day."
According to a report narrated by al-Bukhari: " … so we fast on this day to venerate it."
A version narrated by*ImamAhmad adds: "This is the day on which the Ark settled on Mount Judi, so Nuh fasted this day in thanksgiving," and "commanded [the Muslims] to fast on that day"
– according to another report also narrated by al-Bukhari: "He said to his Companions:*'You have more right to Musa than they do, so fast on that day.'*"

you sound so angry.

 

[AhmedGassama]

Surah Hud verse 44, its English translation is :

44. And it was said, "O earth, swallow your water,and O sky, withhold [your rain]." And the water subsided, and the matterwas accomplished, and the ship came to rest on the [mountain of] Judiyy. And itwas said, "Away with the wrongdoing people."

All readers should read this verse 44 of surah Hud in which Allah the Greatest informed us about the ark of Nuh alaihi salaam stopping at Judi mountain. The tafseer gives details about its location that it is at a central point of Iraq, Turkey and ....... (Syria probably ). I have to revise its location but it is related to Turkey. Right now I am getting late for my prayer.

I am surprised how can a person be so brave in telling lies. You must remember that lie has no legs to stand upon. Your statement is a proof that you know nothing from Quraan about the story of Prophet Nuh alaihi salaam, but you are saying to me that I am taking the things from Bible!!!

I have many proofs from the sunna which say that Al-Judi is located in Arabia, i have them in the arabic language, i didn't find them in English.

حدثنا ابن وكيع، قال: ثنا ابن نـمير، عن ورقاء، عن ابن أبـي نـجيح، عن مـجاهد: { وَاسْتَوَتْ علـى الـجُودِيِّ } قال: جبل بـالـجزيرة، تشامخت الـجبـال من الغرق، وتواضع هو لله فلـم يغرق، فأرسيت علـيه.


حدثنـي الـمثنى، قال: ثنا أبو حذيفة، قال: ثنا شبل، عن ابن أبـي نـجيح، عن مـجاهد: { وَاسْتَوَتْ علـى الـجُودِيّ } قال: الـجوديّ جبل بـالـجزيرة، تشامخت الـجبـال يومئذ من الغرق وتطاولت، وتواضع هو لله فلـم يغرق، وأُرسيت سفـينة نوح علـيه.


حدثنـي الـحارث، قال: ثنا عبد العزيز، قال: ثنا سفـيان: { وَاسْتَوَتْ علـى الـجُودِيّ } قال: جبل بـالـجزيرةشمخت الـجبـال وتواضع حين أرادت أن ترفأ علـيه سفـينة نوح.


حدثنا بشر، قال: ثنا يزيد، قال: ثنا سعيد، عن قتادة: { وَاسْتَوَتْ علـى الـجُودِيّ } أبقاها الله لنا بوادي أرض الـجزيرة عبرة وآية

If you still think that Al-Judi is the mountain Ararat which was found in Turkey, well then, here i can tell you that you are really following the Bible and not the Sunna of our prophet, here is why :

"But God remembered Noah and all the beasts and all the cattle that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind blow over the earth, and the waters subsided; the fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained, and the waters receded from the earth continually. At the end of a hundred and fifty days the waters had abated; and in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat." (Genesis 8:1-4)


Please sister, when you disagree with someone don't accuse him to be a liar.