How would a christian feel?

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glo said:
My thoughts are that once you really and truly have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ you cannot turn away from him - or you would have to be utterly deceived, hurt by other Christians or simply mad to do so.

It would be best to ask your friend. Perhaps you have done so already ...
What does he tell you?

My best regards to Daffodil and the children :)
How are you all doing?

Salaam :)
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mrs and the kids are good, thanks for asking. the knitted bunny you sent is now getting a 2nd chewing by my little daughter who is now about 9 months.

asking my friend, he said he was a convinced christian who felt he was a true believer, felt he had been touched by jesus and walked with jesus in his life but that when presented with the truth islam in the end made sense, it was christianity without the contradictions and flaws.
 
Dawud_uk said:
mrs and the kids are good, thanks for asking. the knitted bunny you sent is now getting a 2nd chewing by my little daughter who is now about 9 months.
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That's what those floppy ears were made for! :)
I am glad it has lasted so well.

asking my friend, he said he was a convinced christian who felt he was a true believer, felt he had been touched by jesus and walked with jesus in his life but that when presented with the truth islam in the end made sense, it was christianity without the contradictions and flaws.
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I can't say that I can relate to what your friend is saying, but not having walked in his shoes I have to accept his words as his personal testimony.

Salaam :)
 
glo - I don't believe that Muslims respect Jesus any more then atheists. Atheists at least recognize that He was crucified.
 
Follower said:
glo - I don't believe that Muslims respect Jesus any more then atheists. Atheists at least recognize that He was crucified.
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actually a lot of him question his existence full stop. i was had a bizzare conversation where an atheist claimed jesus (upon him be peace) to be a medieval invention and teasing a christian with this (got it from some trashy book), which i was able to show was a lie by just showing my Quran and showing that jesus was known and spoken of in the 7th century so could hardly be a medieval invention.

but how can the one who denies there being a creator respect a man who brings a message from that creator the same as those who also believe in him, even if they deny his divinity? (which the atheists also deny anyway) just because of one detail of his life?

the atheists deny jesus performed miracles, the muslims confirm this and the Quran mentions another miracle not mentioned in the bible, the atheists mock the concept of the virgin birth, the muslims accept this, the atheists deny practically everything about his life and you say these people are the same as those who question one accept?

can i ask you, follower of what? groucho marx?
 
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nebula said:
I was just wondering how would a christian feel if one of their close friends or family members became a muslim if they were previously christians? how would you react? would you be supportive or utterly disapointed?
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I would probably feel both a desire to be supportive of my friend and his/her decision, and disappointed by my understanding of what I would feel that he/she had walked away from and the loss of intimacy with God that I see being more available within Christianity than any other religion. I would also probably be sad and feel guilty that I and the rest of Christendom must have done something wrong in not properly communicating the Christian faith for a person who had experienced it to turn away from it.
 
Follower said:
glo - I don't believe that Muslims respect Jesus any more then atheists. Atheists at least recognize that He was crucified.
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Either this is a desperate attempt to get attention or you are seriously misinformed. I also fail to see which post yours is in reference to?
 
Dawud_uk said:
no offense atheist but you guys are 2nd worse out of the whole bunch for bad reactions to people reverting.
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Not surprising, especially if the atheists happen to be anti-religious, as Islam is one of the most hardcore religions around. Only atheists can really be anti-religious, so it makes sense to me that more atheists would react negatively. I know I would feel awful if it was a close friend or family member.
 
atheists recognize that Jesus was crucified? :haha: hilarious
I don't know of any atheists and I have known quite a few who recognize Jesus as an actual historical character..

but if they recognize him as crucified and he is your God then it would make the most sense that they'd turn to atheism, after all what is left after the death of God?

oh the sun did rise again!
The hilarity of Christians~!
 
-Kai- said:
Either this is a desperate attempt to get attention or you are seriously misinformed. I also fail to see which post yours is in reference to?
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Gossamer skye said:
atheists recognize that Jesus was crucified? :haha: hilarious
I don't know of any atheists and I have known quite a few who recognize Jesus as an actual historical character..
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Eh, ease up on him.

Maybe he meant that a historical jesus was a man and was crucified and died (not that he rose again)?
 
I would not care if a Christian family member or friend of mine decided to embrace Islam. I am discerning right now if that is what I should do myself. Regardless if I do or not I would always be supportive of anybody who embraced any of the Book Religions. I cannot say that I would be the same if they became pagan, Hindu etc as it would be turning away from God to embrace a non Book faith. One of my paternal aunts has chastised me for wearing Islamic dress saying that I was too pretty to be in all of that garb and she did not want to see me out any it anymore! Im 26 years old and she has no buinsess telling me how to dress, if I embrace Islam my family will disown me and I will be going straight to hell in their eyes. I really dont care what they think, I have to answer ultimately to God, not my family.
 
convert said:
I probably know you, I live in MD. PM me your name.

My mom took it well, she agrees with mostly everything but says she doesn't think she can change.

Lost a bunch of friends. Of the friends that were accepting, the relationship has become somewhat strained as I don't do any of my old vices and they can't quite get it I guess.
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haha i doubt you know me because i am new to northern virginia(about a year.) prior to that, i was at virginia tech!

but, my name is malik and i am white. not too many white folk with the name of malik! :p

ragdollcat1982 said:
I would not care if a Christian family member or friend of mine decided to embrace Islam. I am discerning right now if that is what I should do myself. Regardless if I do or not I would always be supportive of anybody who embraced any of the Book Religions. I cannot say that I would be the same if they became pagan, Hindu etc as it would be turning away from God to embrace a non Book faith. One of my paternal aunts has chastised me for wearing Islamic dress saying that I was too pretty to be in all of that garb and she did not want to see me out any it anymore! Im 26 years old and she has no buinsess telling me how to dress, if I embrace Islam my family will disown me and I will be going straight to hell in their eyes. I really dont care what they think, I have to answer ultimately to God, not my family.
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you have mentioned an excellent point. we dont ultimately answer to our family. we ultimately answer to ALLAH SWT! so we should please god first before our family of course. i am glad you realize and recognize this because so many people would like to embrace islam but dont want to disappoint their family. though this shows how much they care for their family, it shows that they dont fear god as much as they should!

i also see you are from virginia. :D greetings, from arlington!
 
greenshirt said:
we ultimately answer to ALLAH SWT! so we should please god first before our family of course. i am glad you realize and recognize this because so many people would like to embrace islam but dont want to disappoint their family.
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Unless of course the christian or jewish god is the real god and then you are screwed.:D
 
Gator said:
Unless of course the christian or jewish god is the real god and then you are screwed.:D
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Nah, the Jewish God is too exclusive and the Christian one is too ineffectual..

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I'm a convert to Islam and for the most part my family has been supportive. One of my aunties said that she was sad to see another good christian turn away..and this hurt me. But overall, my family has supported me through my conversion and are truly happy for me. I love how my grandma looks at me now and smiles when she sees me wearing the hijab...it's great!! :)
 
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Unless of course the christian or jewish god is the real god and then you are screwed.:D
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Unless of course God is bigger than all our human bickerings. :)
 
glo said:
If I am really honest I would probably be more comfortable with my loved one to follow Judaism rather than Islam.
The reason being that it doesn't seem a big step from Judaism to Christianity - all it takes is to recognise that Jesus really was prophecied in the Old Testament and that Jesus' life and teaching builds on the OT. In fact, Jesus first followers all were Jews, and they took that step of conversion.
Islam on the other hand very actively denies Jesus divinity, which - in my mind - creates a great rift between the two faiths.
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Oh, I was under the impression that Judaism does not recognise Jesus (peace be upon him) as a messiah, or as any prophet what so ever? And, thereby denying Jesus' status as a prophet/man of God, let alone his divinity.

Judaism's view on Jesus.
 
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Banu_Hashim said:
Oh, I was under the impression that Judaism does not recognise Jesus (peace be upon him) as a messiah, or as any prophet what so ever? And, thereby denying Jesus' status as a prophet/man of God, let alone his divinity.
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You are right, Judaism doesn't recognise Jesus as the Messiah or Son of God at all.

What I was trying to say was that for a Jew it seems a smallish step "to recognise that Jesus really was prophecied in the Old Testament and that Jesus' life and teaching builds on the OT". (After all, it just requires a reading of the Old Testament in relation to the New Testament)

Muslims, on the other hand, are actively discouraged and specifically forbidden to accept Jesus as any more than just a prophet ... therefore it seems a much more difficult transition for a Muslim to become a Christian than it would be for a Jew.
 
glo said:
You are right, Judaism doesn't recognise Jesus as the Messiah or Son of God at all.

What I was trying to say was that for a Jew it seems a smallish step "to recognise that Jesus really was prophecied in the Old Testament and that Jesus' life and teaching builds on the OT". (After all, it just requires a reading of the Old Testament in relation to the New Testament)

Muslims, on the other hand, are actively discouraged and specifically forbidden to accept Jesus as any more than just a prophet ... therefore it seems a much more difficult transition for a Muslim to become a Christian than it would be for a Jew.
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I see. Yes, well I suppose you're right in that sense. The reason, we're actively discouraged to associate Jesus with God, or for that matter anything with God, is because it goes against our basic belief of tawhid (oneness of God).

I guess we would need the perspective of a Jew. My sister used to work at a radio station called Salaam Shalom. And there was a rabbi on the team. If I ever see him, I'll ask him out it (the old testament-new testament thing).

Thanks for that glo. :)
 

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