How would you treat a non hijabi?

[HopeFul]

I encountered a situation last weekend. I went to the halal shop and instead of the normal brother serving this time, it was a sister. She was arab speaking I think probably Lebanon origin. I have only been to the shop 2, 3 times, with my husband and I was shocked at the women who came in there I only saw this time. Arabic speakers, they were dressed very improperly. The counter girl must have been around 21, 22 years old and had a halter top!!! I was amazed, she said salam and I felt a frown on my face automatically. I am so ashamed now.

It;s ignorance, i never did this before, but I thought, man your language is arabic, I am even deprived of this, you can understand all the ahdeeth and quraan first hand, and yet you stand here like this???

to make her feel guilty I went into the shop again, without my family and bought a Quraan and some islamic CDs for my kids. This time I tried to smile.

I wanted to ask all the hijabi and niqabis how would you treat a non hijabi muslim woman who dresses indecently.

Do you also feel sour? I normally feel very open minded and try and treat them well, so tey can be attracted towards hijab, but I feel so guilty now, I dont know why I was feeling kinda biased.

I was wondering what the etiquettes were for encountering non hijabi sisters...

JazakAllah

 

[HopeFul]

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[AntiKarateKid]

You treat them EXACTLY as you would any other sister. Some people take time coming around. Moreover, you don't know what's in their hearts.

So the best thing to do, is the default, be nice to them as you would any other and DO NOT act superior because that'll create an Us versus Them complex, and they may never come around.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I myself get this thought in my head like "why is she dressed that way," but try and try not to think negatively as it will show on my face...they should be able to see the beauty of Islam through us following it practically. They too are Muslim...just sinning. I love my fellow sisters regardless, hijabi or not...so I know what you're feeling sis. I guess it's normal.

I guess the best thing to do is show Islam through your actions. Even Muslims need dawah alongside non Muslims. However they are, they are your sisters and should be given respect and treated the same I suppose.

 

[liya]

sister she dont have to be muslim only 50% i think in lebnon r muslims ..... most of ma friends r hijabi but wen i see them its normal actually .... but ma cuzins r not hijabis i love them as my sister and i feel pain really wen i see them like that not beliving that hijab is to protect them ... but if u talked to them then u dd wat u have to do ... then everyone has the freedom of choice and she is responsible of it infront of Allah the almighty ...

 

[HopeFul]

Assalmaolaikum,

I think the fact is that i feel weird. Even when I see my own sisters some of them who dont cover, it pains me and I actually being the eldest give them quite a bit of a lectre every time I see them.

I was ok before and recently have started to feel bitter about it. the more I travel and live in places wearing complete muslim attire, the more I think whats wrong with others, not that I compare with myself but sometimes I cant help it. my fmaily isnt very religious.. Alhamdolillah yet I have managed to keep own kids and husband somehow away from the hustle and bustle of materialism, Alhamdolillah.

This lady was a muslim, she was serving in the only certified halal shop in the canton we live in and she was a family member of the owner. Hence I felt that way. In any case, i should carry on like I use to before. Gentle, siley and dawa in a nice way.. i suppse that would be the right way...

 

[Nihila]

Salaamun alaykum!

Sis, I suppose on some levels its natural to feel this way...at the end of the day they're our sisters in Islam and we don't want them to feel any pain etc, especially when it comes to the hereafter!

Buuut...you have to remember that in the same way 'we' see those who don't wear hijab and sometimes think negatively, those who don't wear hijab and see other who do also have thoughts! If we behave negatively towards sisters who don't wear hijab, it could have a negative impact...

I always try my best to smile loads and make conversation with sisters who don't wear hijab; I want them to see that hijab doesnt mean 'Im better than you' or 'Im unfriendly and won't speak to you'...InshaAllah I pray my attitude might one day encourage someone to learn more about, even don, hijab

"Love your brother (or sister) what you would love for yourself"

 

[Caller الداعي]

salams All muslims should be treated equally however if possible we should try to encourage those who r further away from practising deen more abt islam.

 

[- IqRa -]

man your language is arabic, I am even deprived of this, you can understand all the ahdeeth and quraan first hand, and yet you stand here like this???

Sister, if you think that is bad...

Last time I went to Umrah, in the Summer Holidays, I was sitting at Fajr time in the area outside Masjid-e-Nabawi, and a girl (full niqaab, hijaab and jilbaab, niqaab was in her hand because the area was segregated) was telling her friend in Arabic that;

"I told my mother I am going to the Masjid to pray Fajr, but I've called my boyfriend up and he is coming to meet me in a hotel. We are going to have breakfast and then...." (I'd rather not finish this sentence).

SubhanAllah. In the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam's masjid. Enough said.

 

[Ali_008]

Sister, if you think that is bad...

Last time I went to Umrah, in the Summer Holidays, I was sitting at Fajr time in the area outside Masjid-e-Nabawi, and a girl (full niqaab, hijaab and jilbaab, niqaab was in her hand because the area was segregated) was telling her friend in Arabic that;

"I told my mother I am going to the Masjid to pray Fajr, but I've called my boyfriend up and he is coming to meet me in a hotel. We are going to have breakfast and then...." (I'd rather not finish this sentence).

SubhanAllah. In the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Aalihi Wa Sallam's masjid. Enough said.

Subhanallah, I felt jitters running through my entire body while reading that. I think its the Prophet's Mosque whose chastity is shocking us so much in this case in particular. May Allah guide all of us and prevent from these illegal practices. I've seen people who did them and regret till this day for having transgressed the limits, Alhamdulillah. May Allah cure the hearts of all of us. Ameen

 

[HopeFul]

Thank you everyone for your opnions/advice

and TIA, that made me feel sick to the stomach:astagfiru


May Allah guide us all, I ahve heard similar stories in kuwait, and I just hope that Allah guides us all,

doing something horrible under covers doesnt mean one should go wihtout covers and say they are good. Every thing has its own evils, one must strive to please Allah in every way...

 

[- IqRa -]

People say that 'there is no point wearing Hijab because people with hijab do things like this and that', but at the end of the day, it is what you do that matters. The Hijab/Jilbab/Niqab is between you and your Lord, and no one can judge you for that.

 

[aadil77]

"I told my mother I am going to the Masjid to pray Fajr, but I've called my boyfriend up and he is coming to meet me in a hotel. We are going to have breakfast and then...." (I'd rather not finish this sentence).

.

hearing crap like this gets me vexxed if it was ok I'd hunt them down and slaughter them both, thats if I'm able to. I don't want to boast but I'm sure any brother here would feel like that after hearing such filth in one of the holiest places on earth

 

[Salahudeen]

hearing crap like this gets me vexxed if it was ok I'd hunt them down and slaughter them both, thats if I'm able to. I don't want to boast but I'm sure any brother here would feel like that after hearing such filth in one of the holiest places on earth

yeah I know how you feel :raging:

I hate seeing Muslim women walking around not covering up and being a FITNA for the men. Then they moan when men look at them and call them pervs lol what's wrong with these women :enough!:

Also they moan they can't get married, which man is gonna marry a women who walks around displaying her beauty for all the men to gawp at,admire and size up. I don't think any man wants a women who walks down the road and all the men stare at her cause she ain't covered up.

The men that go after these type of women are just after a "bit of fun" and they normally attempt to use them for the purpose of fulfilling evil desires and have no intention of marrying her.

All they see her as, is a sexual object. I digressed into something else lol sorry me and my tangents :raging:

 

[Abdul Fattah]

Selam aleykum

We don't know, we don't know, we don't know. Maybe this person just reverted? Just because you speak Arabic doesn't guarantee that you're raised Islamicly. So have patience and don't judge, instead give advice with diplomacy.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

hearing crap like this gets me vexxed if it was ok I'd hunt them down and slaughter them both, thats if I'm able to. I don't want to boast but I'm sure any brother here would feel like that after hearing such filth in one of the holiest places on earth

I woulda just went up to her and called her a ***** and asked her wtf she was doing here.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

wa alaykum us-Salaam

I encountered a situation last weekend. I went to the halal shop and instead of the normal brother serving this time, it was a sister. She was arab speaking I think probably Lebanon origin. I have only been to the shop 2, 3 times, with my husband and I was shocked at the women who came in there I only saw this time. Arabic speakers, they were dressed very improperly. The counter girl must have been around 21, 22 years old and had a halter top!!! I was amazed, she said salam and I felt a frown on my face automatically. I am so ashamed now.

It;s ignorance, i never did this before, but I thought, man your language is arabic, I am even deprived of this, you can understand all the ahdeeth and quraan first hand, and yet you stand here like this???

understanding Arabic and learning the deen are two different things.

to make her feel guilty I went into the shop again, without my family and bought a Quraan and some islamic CDs for my kids. This time I tried to smile.

what do you mean make her feel guilty:?

I wanted to ask all the hijabi and niqabis how would you treat a non hijabi muslim woman who dresses indecently.

the exact way i would encounter/treat a non-hijaabi sister...it makes no difference to me...i don't see why it should:?

Sister, if you think that is bad...

Last time I went to Umrah, in the Summer Holidays, I was sitting at Fajr time in the area outside Masjid-e-Nabawi, and a girl (full niqaab, hijaab and jilbaab, niqaab was in her hand because the area was segregated) was telling her friend in Arabic that;

"I told my mother I am going to the Masjid to pray Fajr, but I've called my boyfriend up and he is coming to meet me in a hotel. We are going to have breakfast and then...." (I'd rather not finish this sentence).

knowing Arabic or having arabic as your first language doesn't mean that you're anymore religious than anyone else, taking into considering the fact that a lot of arabs are non-Muslim.

errrr and i hate to say it, but your lil story makes no sense. Why would go to the masjid and not straight to the hotel? stopping over at the mosque whilst your mother isn't even there to check on you, simply makes no sense. and why would you even say that in arabic in front of a bunch of other Arabs as well? i mean if your so adamant on concealing yourself, you don't go around speaking that kind of rubbish in the same language as those around you...

Also they moan they can't get married, which man is gonna marry a women who walks around displaying her beauty for all the men to gawp at,admire and size up. I don't think any man wants a women who walks down the road and all the men stare at her cause she ain't covered up.

that reason is like the tiniest of proportions of all the reasons some of us may have trouble marrying... oh and i hope you brothers are doing your fair share of lowering your gaze as well! i mean if you want a modest wife, you would only be trying just as hard to preserve your modesty as well. right?

 

[- IqRa -]

Excuse me, I didn't ask for your opinion whether you think its true or not. I simply posted it for sister HopeFuls thread. So please excuse me, and try and show less attitude sister. May Allah punish me if I am lying.

 

[Sari]

Treat her like any other Muslim sister. You don't know her at all, only Allah can judge her.

 

[S_87]

same as anyone else..have a lot of friends and family members that are not hijabis...

errrr and i hate to say it, but your lil story makes no sense. Why would go to the masjid and not straight to the hotel? stopping over at the mosque whilst your mother isn't even there to check on you, simply makes no sense. and why would you even say that in arabic in front of a bunch of other Arabs as well? i mean if your so adamant on concealing yourself, you don't go around speaking that kind of rubbish in the same language as those around you...

let me guess, her driver dropped her off at one side of the masjid and her hotel was at the other side so she walked through the court?

i remember when i was there in the court, it was late at ngiht and the masjid was closed so not much people around but a group of teenage boys passed with music playing loud from their phones and no shame at all...