Hw to het through to her?

sorry but i feel like crying she reached out to me i forgave her now shes just said the most hurtful thing i feel like a complete fool...
 
marina-hadeya said:
sorry but i feel like crying she reached out to me i forgave her now shes just said the most hurtful thing i feel like a complete fool...
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Don't take it to the heart sister. We have no idea what her mental condition is. If you decide to continue dealing with her, then have patience. If not, then it's understandable if you can't handle the negative side of her character.

You're not a fool in overlooking the shortcomings of others.
 
thank you....its just i started to see her as friends then she says the most hurtful thing u know?ur proberly right........thank you sister
 
she does that with everyone.. what she needs is a psychiatrist that enjoys a challenge not a friend.. she's a malingerer who is manipulative and attention seeking.. she has found the right target in Muslims. Don't cave in to this passive aggressive approach of hers, she's really bordering on criminality if not actually already so..

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لميس;1507217 said:
she does that with everyone.. what she needs is a psychiatrist that enjoys a challenge not a friend.. she's a malingerer who is manipulative and attention seeking.. she has found the right target in Muslims. Don't cave in to this passive aggressive approach of hers, she's really bordering on criminality if not actually already so..

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I know I know, told myself if she was out line again I wouldn't speak to her. To be honest I'm real softie, I really like to give people a chance but in the end people just walk all over me. I'm really trying to stronger person but sometimes I think would Allah forgive? Would prophet saw forgive?
 
marina-hadeya said:
I know I know, told myself if she was out line again I wouldn't speak to her. To be honest I'm real softie, I really like to give people a chance but in the end people just walk all over me. I'm really trying to stronger person but sometimes I think would Allah forgive? Would prophet saw forgive?
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There's nothing to forgive or not forgive.. also we don't seek forgiveness of the prophets but that's besides the point. Weed grows besides the harvest.. should we feel bad for tilling the lands and removing what's not suitable or downright harmful? Good grows besides the bad and you have the ability to reason and make seasoned choices.. We're much like the earth some of it good and some of it rotten.. you can't make good a rotten thing but you can remove it so that the whole patch doesn't rot as well.. Every society, everything on earth has what is good and what is bad to be kept in balance even your body has an immune system and a host of bacteria and viruses and cancers and helminths that can potentially weaken or even kill it. Do you say... I am not going to take this medication because it will kill the bacteria and I'll feel bad and what would God say? come on..

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I've been sent a PM asking sisters to add her on MSN etc, acknowledging she has problems, and that:

If we abandon her at this time, we would be responsible before Allah.
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How responsible are we? (This is a very serious question by the way)

If someone says that they are a Muslim, but then insults the Prophet :saws:, tries to get new reverts to leave Islam, etc, then does it again etc, do we have to trust every person every time they say they are a Muslim?

Or is there some room for discretion?

Will we really be punished for going by the only behaviour that we know from a person?

Surely you can't keep crying wolf and then expect everybody else to trust you. There must be an element of personal responsibility here.

Many sisters here have tried to help and devoted much of their time and effort til they have felt drained, and have been met with nothing but insults. It may be that what is needed is actually professional help.
 
marina-hadeya said:
I know I know, told myself if she was out line again I wouldn't speak to her. To be honest I'm real softie, I really like to give people a chance but in the end people just walk all over me. I'm really trying to stronger person but sometimes I think would Allah forgive? Would prophet saw forgive?
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Sister, don't worry about this Soraya person. I figured her out after talking to her for a few days. She told me herself that she enjoys making other people feel bad and that's all she's doing here. She's been sending out e-mails to other sisters on this forum asking them to forgive her then she'll go right back to insulting you and your religion again. No need for you to worry or or feel bad about that. It's not your job to hold her hand and try to "fix" her. Just make dua for her and leave her be...

And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant." (55) It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance. (56) [Al-Qasas:55-56] Yusuf Ali
 
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A Muslim is never bitten from the same hole twice!!.. I think I am starting to understand why women aren't meant to be state leaders at least with the majority being so emotive one can't build governance on the exception but again I digress ... I don't see how she's Muslim? is it something to be said in words only?

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she wanted my personal email or messenger too, i refused.
Allahu A'lam but it seemed to me she was trying to privately sow discord so i avoided a personal confrontation and left it on the board, and Alhamdulillah, she showed her true colours in less than a week.
 
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She's been sending out e-mails to other sisters on this forum asking them to forgive her then she'll go right back to insulting
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I refused to give her any of my contact information or any further information about myself and she was trying to guilt me about that through PM, thankfully guilt isn't a trait I was blessed with...
I suggest people just block her, she'll find a new community of Muslims to emotionally hijack and probably do this for the rest of her meaningless life..
 
Ur all right, I'm just hurt to be honest. U put time and effort and all u get big slap in the face. She may want help but I think guys right I'm not the one who should.
 
marina-hadeya said:
That's the thing I quoted lots of verses in the quran but she didn't care. She just keep going on and on bout hw the millions of incidents of domestic violence towards women in the islamic world..
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Because she is dazzled by bull**** that is in the mass media against Islam and muslim. She is a girl and I know guy who kept saying this kind of stuff. Domestic abuse happens all-over the world, not just by muslim men. Go to poor neighborhoods US and UK, and you see it is very bad. It happens less among the wealthy, not sure why but normally it appears to be less in wealthy neighborhoods.
 
Aprender said:
Sister, don't worry about this Soraya person. I figured her out after talking to her for a few days. She told me herself that she enjoys making other people feel bad and that's all she's doing here. She's been sending out e-mails to other sisters on this forum asking them to forgive her then she'll go right back to insulting you and your religion again. No need for you to worry or or feel bad about that. It's not your job to hold her hand and try to "fix" her. Just make dua for her and leave her be...

And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant." (55) It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance. (56) [Al-Qasas:55-56] Yusuf Ali
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That's smart sister, I didn't read the other replies before my last post, but I'll leave my post as it is. She seems like a person who is their to take people away from Islam, and seems like she does it on purpose.
 
:salamext: Thanks and jazak Allahu khayran to everyone for the positive feedback. I never knew things had gone this far, especially with marina. There's alot of background stuff that goes on which we're unaware of.
 
When we had fight the first time I forgave as she said she was sorry, then the yesterday I was just advising her that it was best if she covered herself when she to the mosque especally if she sees the imam. She went so angry at me called me sand ******. I felt like crying....I really felt we friends and she just was so cruel. My husband african and to say discussting word just was the last straw. I know we should be patient but there's only so much I can take. Sometimes thinK she just enjoys it, huirting people. The sayin "u fool me once, shame on u. Fool me twice shame on me. She's not gonna fool me anymore. I'm sorry qatada I've run out patience,ur on our own with her I'm sorry.
 
:salamext: Someone told me (they can mention their username if they want) that this Soraya might actually be an ex-Muslim (since the 1st time they joined), or a Shi'i (from the shi'a), and that it might actually be a man. That's because Soraya doesn't do any voice conversations, and is targetting Sunni (followers of the Sunnah) Muslims and telling them that he likes the shi'a. It seems this is true, and everyone can ignore/block him/her now officially inshaa' Allah.
 

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