i dont get it about music

I used to listent to music alot, but in the last few months i have really drifted from it, it makes me feel uncomfortable and not at peace. I finally understand what my mum has always meant.

I personally feel one of the reasons music is banned is because it invokes emotion in you and makes you FEEL a certain way. Like sometimes a song will make you cry, make you feel like you should go tell that person you like them, you should dance, drive faster, feel depressed, feel hyper etc. It stops you being you, because you're affected by it and lose control of who you really are even if you think you are in control. I can't explain it very well.

And yes music and the way musicians/singers/performers are idolised beyond belief and how utterly popular and mad the effect of music is these days, is a more recent thing. So it is scary..
 
Tony said:
Muhammad(pbuh) said that a sign of the end of times will be the rising popularity in female singers and musicians, maybe this is what is being referred to but Im not sure.
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The Prophet (PBUH) told us that at the end of time there will come a people who will allow these things just as they will allow alcohol, zina and silk. This is one of the signs of his Prophethood, for all of this has happened.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “In my ummah there will be people who allow fornication/adultery (zina), silk, wine and musical instruments [ma’aazif]. Some people will stay at the side of a mountain, and they will have flocks of sheep. When a poor person comes in the evening to ask them for something he needs, they will say. ‘Come back to us tomorrow.’ Then during the night Allaah will destroy them by causing the mountain to fall upon them...”
(sahih al-Bukhaari and others)

from Qur'an:

“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…”

[al-Israa’ 17:64]
 
Greetings,

czgibson said:
What about the fact that many studies have found that kids who study music do better at school?
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As I said, when the harm outweighs the benefit, then it is sufficient reason for a prohibition in Islam.

Or is education less important than uninterrupted devotion to Allah?
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To the contrary, devotion to Allah can be enhanced through education. In fact, one could argue that it actually sparked education in the Golden Ages of Islam.

You're telling me it's forbidden because it's forbidden. I'm talking about why Allah would have forbidden it - I don't think anybody knows.
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I don't think we need a concrete reason, as the harmful effects of music are very apparent. However, the verses of the Qur'an that are used as evidence against music, together with their explanations, seem to shed more light on the wisdom behind it. See this post for example (it's part of a longer article but hopefully you'll get the gist of it):

http://www.islamicboard.com/298235-post3.html

And there may be other texts indicating the wisdom - Allaah (swt) knows best.
 
dont get me wrong but if you look around music is every were and you cant escape can you? and there are other things wich is forbiden in islam example you watching tv and there is an advert kinda of a nude or your walking on the street see other womens in a short skirt i mean isnt that haraam if your a good person and your praying and lissoning to music whats so bad about it ? and yes it makes you feel things some times example i feel sad and when i lisson to music i feel good and one of you said that when your lissoning to music and when you pray music in in your head huh well it depends all on your self i mean if shaytaan is powerfull on you it will make you feel like that and even if you dont lisson to music shaytann allways brings deferent stuff your mind while praying to distract you how would you describe that i mean isnt that the same and there is tele isnt that a bad iswell if you think music is bad then stop watching tv iswell can you do that? i dont think so there is music on tv or movies or tv show etc we humans allways pointing to one thing but we forget other similler things so if any one have an objection please give a reason if im wrong this is how i see it and i need an answer to what i said about tele.peace
 
At first, please forgive my ignorance. I am not scholar, but an ordinary Muslim.

I just want to know why I found many Islamic nasheed groups that sing da'wah songs ?, even some groups are under management of some Muslim organizations.

I will not ask if they dont use musical instruments.
 
ardianto said:
At first, please forgive my ignorance. I am not scholar, but an ordinary Muslim.

I just want to know why I found many Islamic nasheed groups that sing da'wah songs ?, even some groups are under management of some Muslim organizations.

I will not ask if they dont use musical instruments.
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There are some that use instruments, but most of the ones I've heard do not use instruments (granted I don't listen to nasheeds a whole lot). However, there are a few out there that mimic the sound of instruments using vocals (ie, they can mimic a beat by mixing voices together in rapid succession). I'm no scholar and I don't know whether it's haraam or not, but that practice of instrument mimicry to me does not seem right. It reminds me of the story of the Jews who, to get around not working on the Sabbath, set up their fishing nets on Friday and took them down on Sunday, without ever having "technically" worked at all on the Sabbath.

Here is a great article on IslamQA that actually features several shayukh talking about the state of modern nasheeds:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/91142
 
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Sorry if i am wrong, but this is completely a guess.may allah excuse me if i am horribly wrong.

remember my grandmother telling me that when antichrist (the satan of judgementday ? ) comes he controls people using his music.may be it is to avoid that ?
 
rpwelton said:
There are some that use instruments, but most
Here is a great article on IslamQA that actually features several shayukh talking about the state of modern nasheeds:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/91142
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Jazkallah Khair!

zakirs-yes,it is.Pls.read more about music in Islam!

Anybody knows a hadeeth about the punishment in Hell Fire for those,who listen music?
some fire-bullets in their ears or something ???
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


I don't propose to shoot anybody. Especially not newcomers to the forum. :)



Wrong. The hadith in question, as I have been led to understand it, forbids musical instruments full stop. That means not just the outpourings of Lady Gaga (who I have had the good fortune to avoid hearing so far), but the works of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Stravinsky, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Fela Kuti, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Ali Farka Toure and just about every other major musician in history.

You mention lyrics, and while they may be forbidden for other reasons in Islam (immorality etc.), the Islamic prohibition on music is more concerned with instruments. After several years of discussing this question with Muslims, I've come to the conclusion that nobody really knows why.

Peace
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Um, how so? Lady Gaga was a random example so I would like to know where I erred. Do you think that I'm so finite in my understanding of music that I can't look beyond modern pop-trash? My point still stands. And as it is, it includes the works of all those artists you mentioned because it's still music regardless. Music distracts and competes with the Qur'an in the hearts of the righteous and it will continue to do so until it supercedes the Qur'an which is then one of the signs of the Last Days. If I remember correctly, that was also the answer to your original question so how I came to be wrong on a question you hadn't asked yet puzzles me somewhat. Just a bit.


As for the importance of lyrics vs instruments, I'm fully aware that musical instruments are prohibited in Islam but it wouldn't be wise of me to ignore the effect of lyrics on music either. I mentioned it because it's a major factor in rendering a certain melody haram, not because I'm ignorant as to why music is actually forbidden. Both are important to me and valid of discussion.


Perhaps you haven't been talking to the right kind of Muslims (myself included) but one glance at this thread, or more precisely, one glance at Muhammad's post would have cleared up more than a few misconceptions for me.

Peace! :)
 
AnonymousGender said:
why is music haram?
everything haram is usually bad for us but i never got why music is shaitans handiwork.
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Well I used to listen to Shakira songs quite a lot. When I used to pray, I couldn't concentrate. For some reason, every time I prayed, her music used to pop into my head and I couldn't concentrate. :/

That is my personal reason not to listen to music.
 
This is a question I used to ask all the time. I could not live without music. But now alhamdulillah I have erased all music from my phone and replaced it with Quran recitation. I'm so glad that I got out of the habit of music. Once you accept and believe that it truly is haram you start thinking about what you are doing and for what. I hope Allah gives you the strength to accept it and erase it from your life inshallah.
 
When I used to pray I used to keep getting songs coming into my head and randomly throughout the day as well also last thing at night and anytime i woke up in the night and first thing in the morning but now I always get quran recitation in my head. alhamdulillah.
 
Anyone remember the former NBA basketball player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ?

In 90's he visited Indonesia.
When he visited a media office, staff in this office welcoming him with rap music from tape recorder.
However, when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar entered this office and he heard the rap music, he covered his ears with his hands, and shake his head. Seen this reaction, office staff turned of the tape recorder.

Honestly, if I never joined in Islamic forum, maybe I will never know why brother Kareem Abdul-Jabbar avoid heard this music.
 

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