I hate politicians

[OurIslamic]

Isn't that the role of the UN?

The UN is a silly security blanket, as was the League of Nations (it was replaced by the UN). In my opinion, more Muslims need to go into politics.

 

[Karl]

Islam doesn't needs democracy, but democracy needs Islam.

I voted for my favorite Islamic party, PKS.

Ok, but anyone who plays any part in the process of democracy are in actual fact aiding and abetting it, and by their very actions are acknowledging themselves to be state property. The only true way of Islam lies in the caliphate, NOT the pagan system of democracy. Democracy is all about MOB RULE and we all know that minorities rights are usually trampled by this dreadful system. And I am one living victimized example of it because my own civil rights have been trampled over by the kafir majority. Democracy is such a BAD and unjust system that even the Greeks themselves abandoned it thousands of years back! Not only is democracy iniquitous, but it is also the most cumbersome and costly of systems to maintain.

Certainly in countries which have their majority populations as Muslims, then there is simply no need for democracy because if they accept the sunna they will not feel any need in the first place to "vote" on things as they will be content in the ways of Islam itself and by the ruling of sharia law. The reason why some Muslim countries are now practicing the democratic farce is only because the West has arm twisted them into implementing that system. The West prefer democracy on foreign soil because it makes it the easiest for the Anglo-American empire to corrupt foreign politicians, most of whom are really just leaders of puppet governments funded by the West. These leaders' ostensible claim that they are representing the genuine interests of their own people is nothing but a thin veil disguising a huge corrupted sham. Why do you think the West are SO intensely obsessive in promoting democracy throughout the world? Add 2 + 2 here!

Indonesia used to have a sultanate and it was only in recent times that it switched over to a secular pluralist state. However, this was not instigated by Muslims, but was instead cleverly orchestrated by the West. Indonesia is really in dire need of an Islamic revolution to reinstate the sultanate.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch."

"Democracy is the government of the fools, for the fools and by the fools."

 

[ardianto]

Ok, but anyone who plays any part in the process of democracy are in actual fact aiding and abetting it, and by their very actions are acknowledging themselves to be state property. The only true way of Islam lies in the caliphate, NOT the pagan system of democracy. Democracy is all about MOB RULE and we all know that minorities rights are usually trampled by this dreadful system. And I am one living victimized example of it because my own civil rights have been trampled over by the kafir majority. Democracy is such a BAD and unjust system that even the Greeks themselves abandoned it thousands of years back! Not only is democracy iniquitous, but it is also the most cumbersome and costly of systems to maintain.

I don't see anything wrong if citizens vote their leader. But I think different opinion between us causes by different place of living. Brother, you don't need to vote if you think vote for leader is against Islam.

Certainly in countries which have their majority populations as Muslims, then there is simply no need for democracy because if they accept the sunna they will not feel any need in the first place to "vote" on things as they will be content in the ways of Islam itself and by the ruling of sharia law. The reason why some Muslim countries are now practicing the democratic farce is only because the West has arm twisted them into implementing that system. The West prefer democracy on foreign soil because it makes it the easiest for the Anglo-American empire to corrupt foreign politicians, most of whom are really just leaders of puppet governments funded by the West. These leaders' ostensible claim that they are representing the genuine interests of their own people is nothing but a thin veil disguising a huge corrupted sham. Why do you think the West are SO intensely obsessive in promoting democracy throughout the world? Add 2 + 2 here!

Islam doesn't needs secular democracy, but Muslims need a right for vote their leader, vote their representatives.
Brother, I vote for an Islamic party because I cannot let secularists rule my country alone. During Soeharto era, before 'Real Islamic Parties' were established, I never voted because I disagreed with Soeharto's style democracy.

Indonesia used to have a sultanate and it was only in recent times that it switched over to a secular pluralist state. However, this was not instigated by Muslims, but was instead cleverly orchestrated by the West. Indonesia is really in dire need of an Islamic revolution to reinstate the sultanate.

Sultanate ?. There was no Indonesian sultanate.
Islamic revolution ?. Our program is Islamic reformation.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch."

"Democracy is the government of the fools, for the fools and by the fools."

That's why democracy needs Islam, for makes it better.