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I know hate is a strong word, but I have always felt that "religious" people state they love their specific (of the multitudes of) religion they have decided to follow. Why then can't I state that I hate all of them? (rhetorically speaking of course)


Hi all
I'm new here

I signed up because well I feel I can be good contributor here.
For one, I can inform members who are still undecided (basically still ignorant) that of all the billions of totally unique and individual beliefs (including some of the biggies) that you don't actually need to be religious at all (Many forget this most important point, weird I know)

Anyway, please welcome me to the forum as one that will always speak truthfully and without bias. I only wish we could all be like that, but sadly many adopt the first religious way of life (usually due to fear of death or possibly even fictional power)

I hope that all will be as strong as me and rejoice in life, as this is all there is. Although our physical body will decay (after death) this may be our only hope of attaching a small part of ourselves to something else. Obviously that's not religious belief either, that's just a likely possibility (possibly most likely) tiny option we have.

My daughter asked me, not long ago, "What happens when we die?" I gave her the best possible similarity: Just like when a computer turns off, that's it, there is no more" Unless you feel that there's some type of computer heaven that all computers go to? No, I wouldn't think so either.

Generally people are afraid to die (I'm sure I will be as well, at the time)
Religions just try to smooth over that fear, but in reality its just a lie. Hence: I hate religions.

Thanks for having me onboard
 
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Welcome to LI, Judas. :welcome:

You will certainly add a new flavour to this forum!

Can I ask you if your dislike is of 'organised religions' in particular or of 'a belief in God' in general?
Have you ever had a faith in God and lost it, or have you never believed in God?
Have you had bad experiences with religion or religious people?

(A lot of questions, but you seem like somebody who is not scared of answering a question or two ... Only answer, if you feel comfortable to)
 
You're right, I tend to be TOO open at times. For that reason I always write the truth. As I wouldn't want to come across as confused.

Certainly the issue is "religion" Not exactly God
As I would think that inevitably as the centuries pass by, that we may inevitably find a new energy (possibly just physical, but still unknown in its absoluteness)

Anyway, therefore, I must stay open to the fact that there may be a higher energy. That we may or may not ever know of.

I must reply to this first reply of yours, as I'm concerned that others may reply as well (confusing my reply to you)

I have never had any bad experiences, and I am of sound mind.
 
Welcome to the forum, although I don't think you're really unbiased. Your biases seem pretty darn clear from your opening statement
 
So you believe that religion is almost certainly harmful, but leave the possibility that there may be some higher force?
Would you describe yourself as and anti-theistic agnostic?

Nice talking to you. Try to ease yourself into this forum and get a feel for just how outspoken is acceptable within the forum rules.
 
Strangely about a year or so ago I looked up all those words, and even the reverse of them (there can be slight differences either way)

"So you believe that religion is almost certainly harmful, but leave the possibility that there may be some higher force?"

Yes. Most certainly religion (in my view) is extremely harmful
 
Can you think of any benefits one might gain from religion, or do you think they are entirely harmful?
 
Welcome to IB Judas.

I look forward to reading your posts
 
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I can think of one (ironically)

If someone ignorantly (I must be straight out here) was religious and was dieing. I might white lie to them and say they are going to their heaven (basically helping them to feel brave)

But again in reality, I would not believe this myself.
It would be similar to saying to someone they are going to be ok, when they may have an immediate life threatening issue (say like someone in an accident)

This may sound a bit two faced, but obviously I couldn't be cruel to them
 
Where are you from, Judas?
Am I correct in thinking that English is not your first language?
 
Hmm, I hope that in your time here, you can come to learn that there are many beneficial things one can gain from religion, and that perhaps, your hate will be tempered. But please do be aware, that we here love Allah (swt), His Messenger (saws) and His deen (ie religion). And it's not very polite to come into someone's house and start trashing what they hold dear ;-)
 
I must say thank-you to all the welcomes here, as I have been replying when they do.

Yes I am from an English only speaking country. I have not hidden my IP (so the Mods will know where) But I would personally rather not be specific of my location
 
Sorry for double post:

And it's not very polite to come into someone's house and start trashing what they hold dear ;-)

Agreed, I am more for the ones that haven't fully decided
 
^
I was wondering if English is your first language.
Of course you don't have to disclose where you live.

Right, I have asked enough questions for now. Must go ...
 
Actually I must go too

But I will return to see further replies, and then try to reply to others questions.
 
Originally Posted by Judas
Most certainly religion (in my view) is extremely harmful
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Hello!

This statement is not only very biased but it is also wrong. To prove otherwise I will list some beneficial things in religion.

So briefly, religion is good for:

1. Social reasons.

Religion makes life better in contrast to no religion as it has shown betterment in health, lower level of crimes and higher level of happiness.

Studies have shown that people of religion live longer with better physical health, there is less drug abuse amongst the youth and lower level of attempt of suicide.

Another good social thing coming from religion is that religious people are more charitable. Thisway they improve the whole society and help people in need.

About 60% of Australians are obese. Following religion prevents people from becoming obese as forbids being excessive in eating.

Islam forbids alcohol which benefits a lot to society. Even small amount of drinking increases the chance of cancer 70%. And do not only think about direct results alcohol causes but also consider all the broken families and children who've had to suffer because of having an alcoholic parent.

2. Moral and philosophical reasons.

Religion makes life better as God is the only objective source of morality.
Without God there is no objective distinction between good and bad.

God is All-knowing whereas people are not, hence it is rational and smarter to follow His rules.

3. Political reasons.

Religion, especially islam, makes life better because its economic model deals with poverty and creates financial stability better than any other model past or present.

Religion urges people to distribute and not compete all the time for material things, something we can see a lot mostly in non-religious societies.


Religion, especially islam, has benefits that no non-religious system can have. It doesn't just tell hwo to believe but also teaches how to live in this life in a good manner.


Take care!
 
welcome to LI

I can see you will start some interesting topics and will contribute well to the existing ones.

welcome aboard and look forward to seeing you around
 
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Welcome, great to have you here

Sorry, I have to go, I'll read your introduction later all
 
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