I hate youths!

[Clover]

The National Service is meant to teach the youth discipline and to show respect. It absolutely works. "Bad lads army" is a great example of this. At the end of the process every one of them hold their heads high with pride. They then either go on to join the army or carry on with life in a respectable manner. The objective of the National Service is to break them down and build them back up. There are Eastern European countries that do this today and it has been called for a return back here too.

I am not saying it doesn't, but to force people to do this, cause of bullying is silly, and stupid. I wouldn't allow a government to force my son to go into the military, although he probably will since it's been in the family to do so since we left Ireland/France/Holland to here.

 

[glo]

Can I just say for the record that I do not hate youths!!

Indeed, there are many young people out there who are polite and helpful, and who strive to make this world a better place.
There are many who do voluntary work and give their own time for others.
There are many who care for sick family members, even their own parents.
There are many who are working towards gaining qualifications and jobs which will help others.


Here are just a few examples:
Awards for young volunteers, Red Cross

Young People of the Year

Voluntary groups which young people volunteer in ...

So whilst I understand, and agree with, the concerns about troublesome youths, especially gang behaviour, please, please, please let's not give the impression that all youngsters are like this!!
(After all, there are many young people here in LI. Speak out for yourselves, boys and girls!)

Peace

 

[Tony]

My sister's fine now thanks. She's now focusing her mind onto this holiday on Thursday that I'm taking her to. When alone these cowards wouldn't even hurt a fly. They're quiet but when they join up with mates they go out and tend to show off to each other by causing harm to people that have done nothing wrong. This is their humour. Pretty poor if you ask me.

The National Service is meant to teach the youth discipline and to show respect. It absolutely works. "Bad lads army" is a great example of this. At the end of the process every one of them hold their heads high with pride. They then either go on to join the army or carry on with life in a respectable manner. The objective of the National Service is to break them down and build them back up. There are Eastern European countries that do this today and it has been called for a return back here too.

with respect, my sons will not be fighting for the amoral politicians sitting on their fat a***s in England. They are not going to forced into fighting for oil or land either, if they choose to fight I pray it is in the light of Allah and for His benefit. They will have to kill me before I allow my sons to be used as cannon fodder in order to persecute already stricken families and children around this world, there is no man or system on this earth other than Islam and its causes that will take them from me:raging::raging:

 

[glo]

Greetings, TKTony

Like you I disagree with the idea of a National Service. And as parents we would never wish for our children to fight in the army (ANY army) either.

But I do agree with Blackpool in that many young people today grow up without being taught respect and discipline. That's not really their fault. It is the fault of their parents and guardians who fail to teach them well.

I watched a TV programme recently, where British youngsters spent a week with parents in other cultures (perceived to be the 'strictest parents').
Co-incidentally (or not) many of those parents seemed to adhere to a religious belief, but that aside what was most noticable that those parents had high expectations of their children and disciplined them quite strongly ... but they also showed great love and warmth!

Perhaps that is the secret of raising good young adults - to teach them discipline and respect, but also to show them love and understanding and forgiveness when they make mistakes.

All too often parents in our society love their children, but don't discipline them enough (I know, because I have that tendency myself ...). I believe that this can lead to children becoming spoilt and self-centered.

Other parents raise their children with discipline and control, but fail to show and teach them love. I believe those children are more likely to grow up either being fearful and timid, or becoming bullies and aggressive against those weaker than themselves.

It must even be worse for those children that grow up neither experiencing discipline nor love - almost being left to fend for themselves without any guidance!
No wonder they roam the streets and look to form gangs - where they can at least find a sense of belonging and family support.
How can they learn if they are not shown?? imsad

 

[Nájlá]

at the thread starter i really hope that she feels better soon....

But i agree with glo this thread is making it sound like all youths are bad.
ffended:

Can I just say for the record that I do not hate youths!!

Indeed, there are many young people out there who are polite and helpful, and who strive to make this world a better place.
There are many who do voluntary work and give their own time for others.
There are many who care for sick family members, even their own parents.
There are many who are working towards gaining qualifications and jobs which will help others.


Here are just a few examples:
Awards for young volunteers, Red Cross

Young People of the Year

Voluntary groups which young people volunteer in ...

So whilst I understand, and agree with, the concerns about troublesome youths, especially gang behaviour, please, please, please let's not give the impression that all youngsters are like this!!
(After all, there are many young people here in LI. Speak out for yourselves, boys and girls!)

Peace

:thumbs_up

 

[Forced_In]

at the thread starter i really hope that she feels better soon....

But i agree with glo this thread is making it sound like all youths are bad.
ffended:




:thumbs_up

Salaam,

Same to Original Poster. Also let me say that it is not age or other irrelevant
factors which causes these shameful behaviors. One may think furthur to find
real causes.

Wassalam.

 

[Salahudeen]

This makes my blood boil I agree with you the YOUTH of today are messed up and like you I think it's down to lack of discipline.

It's come to a stage where they record fights on their phones!! it makes you think what kind of people are these, they enjoy watching people get beat up and hurt, instead of stopping fights they record it on their phone and show all their friends and talk about it like it's something good. Have the youth of today lost all humanity?

if it was upto me I'd bring the Cain back and I'm sure the majority of teachers from my old school would agree. I actually remember from 2 years ago my teacher crying because of how bad the class were they would terrorize her to the extent she'd break down in tears. and the class would just laugh.

The don't have respect for anybody today I'm not saying all youth are like this cos I'm an example that they aren't but in my opinion the majority are, from my own observations.

 

[Clover]

This makes my blood boil I agree with you the YOUTH of today are messed up and like you I think it's down to lack of discipline.

It's come to a stage where they record fights on their phones!! it makes you think what kind of people are these, they enjoy watching people get beat up and hurt, instead of stopping fights they record it on their phone and show all their friends and talk about it like it's something good. Have the youth of today lost all humanity?

if it was upto me I'd bring the Cain back and I'm sure the majority of teachers from my old school would agree. I actually remember from 2 years ago my teacher crying because of how bad the class were they would terrorize her to the extent she'd break down in tears. and the class would just laugh.

The don't have respect for anybody today I'm not saying all youth are like this cos I'm an example that they aren't but in my opinion the majority are, from my own observations.

What is wrong with street fighting? If the two persons are doing it with consent, then what is the big problem? The violence? People have been street fighting since the Roman times, except then they did it in the Colisuem, and they usually had a death involved. I plan on going into street fighting, or at least, doing some of it in a sustained place, with some friends.

My name is Cain....

I had this happen twice. We drove 1 teacher to insanity (at least for a day) I didn't do anything but she was a ***** no joke, and they decided to get back at her for being insane by making fun of her, and it worked, one day, she went bonkers and walked out of the class, never saw her again.

Then, we had a psycho as a teacher (imagine the worst person with bipolar you know, and 2x). She balled her eyes out, all class, cause someone took some of her M & M's, I laughed cause of the silly reason she cried, and she had tried for the principal job around 30+ times, never got it, and quit, and now teaches at a private Christian school, and I feel sorry for the people under her.

The majority of youth are gorillas. They like to hit things, and laugh. I unlike them, choose to hit cause I think it relieves the body, if one has too much energy at times, and I do not just go up to someone and hit them, I usually hint to them I don't like them, and then I will let them know before anything begins, thats part of the youth life, since they've taken away anything else that has any violence in it in school, I remember at my old school (before it closed down) they gave us the dodgeballs that could leave bruises, now they use puff balls that you cant even feel hit ya at full speed.

 

[crayon]

How's your sister, Blackpool?

 

[Blackpool]

How's your sister, Blackpool?

She's fine thanks. She's been ringing me everyday to tell me what she wants to do in Florida... excitement

The police are waiting to see what actions the school and councillor takes before they do anything.