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What exactly did i say that offended people on here?
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Very Important regarding your issue.Its faced by mostly best of Momineen & I personally know them .It does involves Imaan&kufr thoughts or feelings for the people I know due to their trials ,feeling despair,feeling ALLAH hates me or give up Islam,thoughts of apostasy etc .I actually talked to these youngsters & they seemed good & in private messages,telling me of their waswas & how they feel etc.
It's happening to almost everyone,as its Narrated in authentic hadeeth. Some have realized it & are working to give its awareness &are terrified ,others are oblivious to it or when it slaps them ,then they get this worry! Or maybe it's happening, just they don't know!
❝Several of the Salaf were quoted as saying when Fitan come, only very, very, very few will see the truth. When there is Fitan, only few of the few of the few will know how to analyse them. Make Istighāthah to be amongst them or at least see the reality of the Fitan. After time passes on Fitan and they end, then everyone will see the reality of what the few were trying to tell them. That is what happens during all Fitan. The problem for many is that after they see the reality, they have already lost their Deen.❞
~ Shaykh Ahmad Jibrīl(حفظه الله)
What is Duhayma fitan?
From 'AbdUllah ibn 'Umar, radhiyAllahu 'anhu, who said: "We were sitting with the Messenger of Allah, salAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, and he mentioned the fitan, and mentioned many of them, until he mentioned the fitnah of al-Ahlas.
So someone said: "O Messenger of Allah, and what is the fitnah of al-Ahlas?" He said: "It is fleeing and plunder.
Then the fitnah of as-Sarra', its corruption will from under the feet of a man from my household, who claims to be from me, but he is not from me, for my allies are only the pious.
Then the people will unite on the leadership of a man like a hip-bone on a rib. Then the fitnah of ad-Duhayma', which will not leave a single one from this Ummah without giving him a slap. Whenever it is said that it has finished, it will continue longer
. A man during it will be a mu'min in the morning and a kafir in the evening, until the people become two camps, a camp of faith with no hypocrisy, and a camp of hypocrisy with no faith. When that happens, then await the Dajjal on that day or the next."
Narrated by Abu Dawud, kitab al-fitan.
Brief explanation of Duhayma fitan:
Fitan of Duhayma includes calamities as tantamount to Imaan for the strong believers & likewise for every Muslim.
It involves evil desires led by calamities&continuous trials&till people are shaken in Imaan-
Doubts get in the way of all those claiming Islam.
And people whoever will be saved from ALLAH Ta'ala's favour will be saved from being drowned in this fitan&its a fitan that's long.-
In this fitan,people are shaken tremendously, with thoughts about ALLAH Ta'ala.
Sometimes through major calamities & sometimes through minor.
And then other things that leads to pure shaking trembling of best of Muslims&that's when we have heard from many people that such&such has fallen bcs some give in&others continue struggle&all aid is with ALLAH Ta'ala.
May ALLAH Ta'ala protect the ones who were apples of eyes of pious as those knowing it's dangers are horrified&terrorised.
But victory is for ALLAH Ta'ala & His Prophet PBUH & those who despite all calamities busy themselves with Repentance&Tawheed treading the path to victory after hardships.
Such will be sifted as momineen&others without Imaan on the end of Duhayma
.I seek protection of ALLAH Ta'ala for myself,my immediate family &my best friends far&may ALLAH Ta'ala have mercy on Sana Al Harbee ,RahimUllah.Aameen
Nourish your soul with Tawheed&glorifying ALLAH Ta'ala for this will beautify you outwardly though after trials&patience/reliance & then Outward beauty.
Trust ALLAH Ta'ala, The One ,truthfully if it's He who you Worship.
Dear sisters who I support&respected brothers who are down.
With Tawheed,you can achieve anything you want.
Since,I'm repenting & in midstof horrible trials ,reading more on this fitan is very beneficial,biidhnIllah!
I advise all to keep wary of the Duhayma fitan which is the Greatest fitan before Dajjal! May ALLAH Ta'ala forgive us all & guide us towards righteous path&good end!
Please don't be oblivious to Fitan lest it consumes you!
From an authentic site:
Reference is At-Tuwaijari's Itihaf al-Jama'ah, I, pp. 75-81 (may Allah be merciful with him):
Chapter: What Has been Related Regarding a Fitna that Will Sweep the Arabs Away
Upon 'Abdullah ibn Amr (may Allah be pleased with them both) who said: The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said:
"There will be a fitna that will cleanse (tastanzifu) the Arabs - its dead will be in the Hellfire. During this time the tongue will be more severe (ashad) than a blow of the sword."
Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah. At-Tirmidhi said that this hadith is gharib
At-Tuwaijari then comments on the narrators of this narration and after concluding that the hadith is hasan he proceeds to explain it as follows:
"[Regarding the Prophet's] statement 'cleanse the Arabs,' Ibn Al-Athir and Ibn Al-Manzur have said: It means it will encompass them in destruction.
End of Tujawiris words.
Regarding the Arabs killed in hell means those who will divert from right path,who Will doubt ,or not trust ALLAH Ta'ala & live on Tawheed.
The rest those who are killed on Deen will be InshaALLAH, Shuhada as they been slaughtered by kuffar
This fitan comes at times with greatest calamities being upon Deen,shaking faith & to some get caught in fitan during little calamities.
MANY momineen are suffering greatest degree of tortures & many people without Imaan also suffers alot of calamities. That's why successful is the one who clings to Deen like it was mentioned that a time will come when clinging to Deen will be as handling a burning coal.
That Includes extreme calamities & evil world appealing so whoever will stand strong ,seekingseeking help of ALLAH Ta'ala & fall & strive again will be under mercy of ALLAH Ta'ala.
It's happening to almost everyone,as its Narrated in authentic hadeeth. Some have realized it & are working to give its awareness &are terrified ,others are oblivious to it or when it slaps them ,then they get this worry! Or maybe it's happening, just they don't know!
❝Several of the Salaf were quoted as saying when Fitan come, only very, very, very few will see the truth. When there is Fitan, only few of the few of the few will know how to analyse them. Make Istighāthah to be amongst them or at least see the reality of the Fitan. After time passes on Fitan and they end, then everyone will see the reality of what the few were trying to tell them. That is what happens during all Fitan. The problem for many is that after they see the reality, they have already lost their Deen.❞
~ Shaykh Ahmad Jibrīl(حفظه الله)
What is Duhayma fitan?
From 'AbdUllah ibn 'Umar, radhiyAllahu 'anhu, who said: "We were sitting with the Messenger of Allah, salAllahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, and he mentioned the fitan, and mentioned many of them, until he mentioned the fitnah of al-Ahlas.
So someone said: "O Messenger of Allah, and what is the fitnah of al-Ahlas?" He said: "It is fleeing and plunder.
Then the fitnah of as-Sarra', its corruption will from under the feet of a man from my household, who claims to be from me, but he is not from me, for my allies are only the pious.
Then the people will unite on the leadership of a man like a hip-bone on a rib. Then the fitnah of ad-Duhayma', which will not leave a single one from this Ummah without giving him a slap. Whenever it is said that it has finished, it will continue longer
. A man during it will be a mu'min in the morning and a kafir in the evening, until the people become two camps, a camp of faith with no hypocrisy, and a camp of hypocrisy with no faith. When that happens, then await the Dajjal on that day or the next."
Narrated by Abu Dawud, kitab al-fitan.
Brief explanation of Duhayma fitan:
Fitan of Duhayma includes calamities as tantamount to Imaan for the strong believers & likewise for every Muslim.
It involves evil desires led by calamities&continuous trials&till people are shaken in Imaan-
Doubts get in the way of all those claiming Islam.
And people whoever will be saved from ALLAH Ta'ala's favour will be saved from being drowned in this fitan&its a fitan that's long.-
In this fitan,people are shaken tremendously, with thoughts about ALLAH Ta'ala.
Sometimes through major calamities & sometimes through minor.
And then other things that leads to pure shaking trembling of best of Muslims&that's when we have heard from many people that such&such has fallen bcs some give in&others continue struggle&all aid is with ALLAH Ta'ala.
May ALLAH Ta'ala protect the ones who were apples of eyes of pious as those knowing it's dangers are horrified&terrorised.
But victory is for ALLAH Ta'ala & His Prophet PBUH & those who despite all calamities busy themselves with Repentance&Tawheed treading the path to victory after hardships.
Such will be sifted as momineen&others without Imaan on the end of Duhayma
.I seek protection of ALLAH Ta'ala for myself,my immediate family &my best friends far&may ALLAH Ta'ala have mercy on Sana Al Harbee ,RahimUllah.Aameen
Nourish your soul with Tawheed&glorifying ALLAH Ta'ala for this will beautify you outwardly though after trials&patience/reliance & then Outward beauty.
Trust ALLAH Ta'ala, The One ,truthfully if it's He who you Worship.
Dear sisters who I support&respected brothers who are down.
With Tawheed,you can achieve anything you want.
Since,I'm repenting & in midstof horrible trials ,reading more on this fitan is very beneficial,biidhnIllah!
I advise all to keep wary of the Duhayma fitan which is the Greatest fitan before Dajjal! May ALLAH Ta'ala forgive us all & guide us towards righteous path&good end!
Please don't be oblivious to Fitan lest it consumes you!
From an authentic site:
Reference is At-Tuwaijari's Itihaf al-Jama'ah, I, pp. 75-81 (may Allah be merciful with him):
Chapter: What Has been Related Regarding a Fitna that Will Sweep the Arabs Away
Upon 'Abdullah ibn Amr (may Allah be pleased with them both) who said: The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said:
"There will be a fitna that will cleanse (tastanzifu) the Arabs - its dead will be in the Hellfire. During this time the tongue will be more severe (ashad) than a blow of the sword."
Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah. At-Tirmidhi said that this hadith is gharib
At-Tuwaijari then comments on the narrators of this narration and after concluding that the hadith is hasan he proceeds to explain it as follows:
"[Regarding the Prophet's] statement 'cleanse the Arabs,' Ibn Al-Athir and Ibn Al-Manzur have said: It means it will encompass them in destruction.
End of Tujawiris words.
Regarding the Arabs killed in hell means those who will divert from right path,who Will doubt ,or not trust ALLAH Ta'ala & live on Tawheed.
The rest those who are killed on Deen will be InshaALLAH, Shuhada as they been slaughtered by kuffar
This fitan comes at times with greatest calamities being upon Deen,shaking faith & to some get caught in fitan during little calamities.
MANY momineen are suffering greatest degree of tortures & many people without Imaan also suffers alot of calamities. That's why successful is the one who clings to Deen like it was mentioned that a time will come when clinging to Deen will be as handling a burning coal.
That Includes extreme calamities & evil world appealing so whoever will stand strong ,seekingseeking help of ALLAH Ta'ala & fall & strive again will be under mercy of ALLAH Ta'ala.
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Ok you spoke disrespectfully reg.Prophet PBUH.... & that was what I found very wrong too but I decided to deal with it because he had a spotless character.....the vdo link I gave you ....please listen to it ,seeking ALLAH's guidance, InshaALLAH
Reg.your questioning about why you're created etc ...some do get these questions, so again only people of knowledge should be asked as others will put you off from Islam&I'm myself a layman .....but Alhamdull'ILLAH, understanding of what times we are living in.
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Excellent post from another thread!
[MENTION=37834]Umm Malik[/MENTION]
If you did sins its not the end of life. .. Allah still Merciful and forgiving ... And Allah balance our life to be afraid when we do sin but not to despair from the Mercy of Allah .. And to think good in Allah but not to do whatever we want without care
If you left Islam ... You will see how much you lose
Subhanallah if everyone give every thing to let me think that there is no God,I won't believe with that ... You know why ? Because in my life ...after I chose to be a Muslim ... I was Muslim yes before ... But I become a true Muslim after my repantence and after that ... Every event in my life get a witness that there is ALLAH... A great God who control my life ... Amazing thing unbelievable .. Sometimes I just stop and say ... LA ilaha illa Allah .. Subhanallah! Another proof from my RABB
Try to be a good Muslim as you can .. But you would be sin and you just need to make a sincere repantence and to promise yourself to try to don't do it again but if you do it as a weak human you need to repeat it again and again and Allah will forgive you
Don't lose hop and ask Allah's guidance he will guide you
Ramadan is near ... don't left Islam be for you pass it
Fast and ask Allah and don't be rash
You aren't going to a thing you think it may be the truth and you may lose it or die before you convert to it ... it just disbelief ... so take your time before you left something can be lose to something as nothing
[MENTION=37834]Umm Malik[/MENTION]
If you did sins its not the end of life. .. Allah still Merciful and forgiving ... And Allah balance our life to be afraid when we do sin but not to despair from the Mercy of Allah .. And to think good in Allah but not to do whatever we want without care
If you left Islam ... You will see how much you lose
Subhanallah if everyone give every thing to let me think that there is no God,I won't believe with that ... You know why ? Because in my life ...after I chose to be a Muslim ... I was Muslim yes before ... But I become a true Muslim after my repantence and after that ... Every event in my life get a witness that there is ALLAH... A great God who control my life ... Amazing thing unbelievable .. Sometimes I just stop and say ... LA ilaha illa Allah .. Subhanallah! Another proof from my RABB
Try to be a good Muslim as you can .. But you would be sin and you just need to make a sincere repantence and to promise yourself to try to don't do it again but if you do it as a weak human you need to repeat it again and again and Allah will forgive you
Don't lose hop and ask Allah's guidance he will guide you
Ramadan is near ... don't left Islam be for you pass it
Fast and ask Allah and don't be rash
You aren't going to a thing you think it may be the truth and you may lose it or die before you convert to it ... it just disbelief ... so take your time before you left something can be lose to something as nothing
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[MENTION=40819]Khanali12[/MENTION]
So you agree that if someone defies the laws and revolt against his own country or having been influenced by enemies becomes a traitor then if he is sentenced life imprisonment or death penalty, will be justice. only a nutcase can say it's injustice.
Likewise those who revolt against the laws of Allah swt revealed in Quran will be sentenced life imprisonment in hell. and hell is a different type of jail.
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IN Islam there is no such thing as "Blind belief" in Islam we THINK and Believe. You know? Balance between HEART and MIND. The atheists only use their BRAINS but ignore their fitrah / heart.
The Christians only use their hearts, and ignore their intellect. In ISLAM we are COMMANDED to use our brains, to THINK. And we are also commanded /encouraged to STUDY the creation of Allah, and see whatever being or kind Allah :swt: has created. AFAIK.
WHICH other religion says this??? To USE YOUR INTELLECT to FIND ALLAH??
I ask you, bring your questions in bullet-form, like this:
1.
2.
3.
WE will answer you. Don't block your heart, nor your brain.
Allahu alam.
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So why are you here?
To troll? There is no other reason for you to be here if you have already left Islam and don't care for it, is there?
Are you really this idiotic that you would join a Muslim forum after apostating - to complain about Islam and think we all gonna be like "hi welcome have some tea and biscuits, here"???? heck no.
Instead we would expect you to make a case for yourself, which you have not done. We would expect you to provide some genuine lines of inquiry but NO, you didn't do that, we'd expect you to be mature and respectful in your posts but NO, and again we'd expect you to be informed enough to make an informed decision to leave Islam - and that's where you really showed your ignorance.
So yeah, keep acting like a butt hurt teenager. An escapist. A cowardly being who doesn't even have the courage of his own conviction, nor any knowledge with which his arguments can hold any weight lol.
You are what I call, a dense moron.
Have a nice day.
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http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=18285
Make an account here & try reading these articles!
All the best!
Make an account here & try reading these articles!
All the best!
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You say that Allah controls everything and your destiny has been determined by Allah and yet he has given you free choice[emoji57]
Greetings and peace be with you islamocurious;
I think we all bang our heads against the wall, when we try and understand our creator. After all he had the knowledge and power to create the universe and life, what can we do by comparison?
It has been said that a theologian is someone who knows about God. It has also been said that theologians reveal more of their own nature, rather than they reveal anything about the nature of God.
In order to find God, We have to do SOMETHING.
In the spirit of searching for God.
Eric
I think we all bang our heads against the wall, when we try and understand our creator. After all he had the knowledge and power to create the universe and life, what can we do by comparison?
It has been said that a theologian is someone who knows about God. It has also been said that theologians reveal more of their own nature, rather than they reveal anything about the nature of God.
In order to find God, We have to do SOMETHING.
In the spirit of searching for God.
Eric
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I was born into religion, educated and trained to develop the 'critical thinking' part of my brain. The more I study and understand religion; the more questions I have. The definition of 'faith' (belief without evidence) is driving towards?....
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seemingly an irony eh?
John wakes up and doesn't know what he will eat for lunch.
At lunch time he goes to his local deli to eat. He has many choices. But he likes three options.
1) the chicken sandwich
2) the beef stew
3) the shepherds pie
He has the free will to determine which he will eat. But the predestination of each choice - is already known by God.
For example: God knows that should John choose option:
1) the chicken sandwich, he will get a stomach ache later in the day
2) the beef stew, he will be fine and the meal will benefit his body
3) the shepherds pie, he will get a migraine at night
So John has free will, but the predestination of each choice is already known by God.
The idea being, God allows us to make our own decisions but each decision we make, falls under HIS will because HE is the Master of each reality, whether manifest or not.
God bless,
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Faith without reason is blind, and science without faith, is crippled, and logic without sincerity, is deception.
Scimi
So your point is Allah doesnt control everything and our destiny has not been determined by Allah or He has not given us free choice ?
*charisma*
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[MENTION=40819]Khanali12[/MENTION],
I suggest you go through this thread once more and focus on those who have genuinely replied to your inquires instead of arguing with Scimi. I know you want to "save face" but put effort into what your initial intent was because actions speak louder than words here. I can't judge you based on your real intentions right? But this thread is turning into a joke rather than an actual discussion. Sis noraina, br. Eric, azc and others have replied to you in hopes that there'd be a discussion, but you are ignoring them. For that reason, I'm closing this thread. My suggestion to you is to choose a question and make a thread specifically about it, highlighting what you already know about the topic and what you don't understand. Do it respectfully, and you'll see you'll be treated the same in return. If you have any questions regarding this, please PM me or any of the other mods.
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I suggest you go through this thread once more and focus on those who have genuinely replied to your inquires instead of arguing with Scimi. I know you want to "save face" but put effort into what your initial intent was because actions speak louder than words here. I can't judge you based on your real intentions right? But this thread is turning into a joke rather than an actual discussion. Sis noraina, br. Eric, azc and others have replied to you in hopes that there'd be a discussion, but you are ignoring them. For that reason, I'm closing this thread. My suggestion to you is to choose a question and make a thread specifically about it, highlighting what you already know about the topic and what you don't understand. Do it respectfully, and you'll see you'll be treated the same in return. If you have any questions regarding this, please PM me or any of the other mods.
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