IB Kitchen Club

[*charisma*]

I would by FAR advice you to make Kurdish salad. Every summer, during ramadan i make it. That is by far one of the most easist things to make if you have never heard of it. You have to slice everything as little as possible. Very little cubes. First time took me 45 minutes, now i take about 30 minutes to make.

Yea we have the same salad..we call it salata. I use tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes, green onions (sometimes), and green peppers. I'll grate in a carrot too if we're low on a veggie We also add lettuce on rare occasion, just a little sprinkling of it though ;D don't want to overpower. For dressing just lemon and salt. Though we have all types of variations, like with tahini (salata bil tahineeya), fried bread (fattoush). or with a lot of parsley and a bit of bulgur (tabouli). The worst is making this while fasting or hungry because it smells soo fresh and soo good. Idk it's those cucumbers ;D It's a side dish every lunch/dinner.

So question since you've waged war with onions and garlic ;D...have you ever had indian food? like butter chicken for example. Also do you utilize pomegranate molasses in kurdish cooking?

 

[*charisma*]

That is the problem, i want a big jar and i have found one in one of the supermarkets, but have to buy it as it contains pickles but those large ones that are a big saggy inside. But in'sha'Allah soon.

Have you got an ikea nearby? they have these jars which are really good for making this type of stuff:

 

[Simple_Person]

Yea we have the same salad..we call it salata. I use tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes, green onions (sometimes), and green peppers. I'll grate in a carrot too if we're low on a veggie We also add lettuce on rare occasion, just a little sprinkling of it though ;D don't want to overpower. For dressing just lemon and salt. Though we have all types of variations, like with tahini (salata bil tahineeya), fried bread (fattoush). or with a lot of parsley and a bit of bulgur (tabouli). The worst is making this while fasting or hungry because it smells soo fresh and soo good. Idk it's those cucumbers ;D It's a side dish every lunch/dinner.

So question since you've waged war with onions and garlic ;D...have you ever had indian food? like butter chicken for example. Also do you utilize pomegranate molasses in kurdish cooking?

Well your "zalate" is not really the exactly the same as the Kurdish one. Like i said, with extra ingredients or with less it gives you a different taste. You said parsley, parsley although at first one might think you taste celery..but HUGE difference in taste. The best way to restrain yourself is to think about the end result. You know what bothers me the most or well i could say appreciate more..the person how makes it. I mean sub'han'Allah AND 100000% ALHAMDULILLAH that Allah has made me witness the life of a single man. As you know how it is for example to cook, the more you appreciate the one who has cooked for you. Even for example when salt is less or a bit too much you know how hard it goes and not always the end results is a success but the time spent on it is well appreciated.

Till now i have never eaten or have i..i am not sure..about Indian food. Well i guess i do have eaten it, but i ate a huge fish as the dish i ordered.

No in our culture we do not use fruits in dishes..well yeah lemon and tomatoes are also fruit, but you get what i am trying to say . We only use fruit as a sign for guests as "time to leave" :Emoji7::Emoji7:. We Kurds also love fruits every much but again never in dishes.

 

[Simple_Person]

Have you got an ikea nearby? they have these jars which are really good for making this type of stuff:

Tooo small . I want at least twice as big and i have paid attention to the jars found at Ikea, but always OR too small OR for decoration. You know why it is too small for me? Because when eating, almost every meal i would maybe eat it so within a very small amount of time nothing will be left. That is why i want a fairly large jar. How far the belly of a woman gets when she is 8 months pregnant at least that size or twice as big.

 

[*charisma*]

Well your "zalate" is not really the exactly the same as the Kurdish one. Like i said, with extra ingredients or with less it gives you a different taste. You said parsley, parsley although at first one might think you taste celery..but HUGE difference in taste. The best way to restrain yourself is to think about the end result. You know what bothers me the most or well i could say appreciate more..the person how makes it. I mean sub'han'Allah AND 100000% ALHAMDULILLAH that Allah has made me witness the life of a single man. As you know how it is for example to cook, the more you appreciate the one who has cooked for you. Even for example when salt is less or a bit too much you know how hard it goes and not always the end results is a success but the time spent on it is well appreciated.

Yeah I totally agree...a little too much lemon or salt makes a huge difference, or even too little. I've had salads which are similar (ingredients) and they taste totally off than how I like it. I guess we can't judge until we taste

Till now i have never eaten or have i..i am not sure..about Indian food. Well i guess i do have eaten it, but i ate a huge fish as the dish i ordered.

No in our culture we do not use fruits in dishes..well yeah lemon and tomatoes are also fruit, but you get what i am trying to say . We only use fruit as a sign for guests as "time to leave" . We Kurds also love fruits every much but again never in dishes.

What DO you eat? ;D you are missing out bro..so many amazing dishes you haven't had.

Same with us w/ the fruits ;D ;D that's so funny..subhanallah our cultures are similar in many ways.

Tooo small . I want at least twice as big and i have paid attention to the jars found at Ikea, but always OR too small OR for decoration. You know why it is too small for me? Because when eating, almost every meal i would maybe eat it so within a very small amount of time nothing will be left. That is why i want a fairly large jar. How far the belly of a woman gets when she is 8 months pregnant at least that size or twice as big.

omg ;D why not just by medium sized jars and make many of them?? whenever you're near the end, you will be able to make a new ones before it finishes. If you make a big batch and it goes bad or the jar breaks or anything happens, then you will lose the whole thing. Plus it will be too annoying to move around or take from it because it will be too big and too deep.

 

[Simple_Person]

Yeah I totally agree...a little too much lemon or salt makes a huge difference, or even too little. I've had salads which are similar (ingredients) and they taste totally off than how I like it. I guess we can't judge until we taste


What DO you eat? ;D you are missing out bro..so many amazing dishes you haven't had.

Well even my own culture, the limited time that i did spent in the Middle East as a child one could say i haven't even had enough of dishes of my own culture. Anyhow the food that i do eat well to be honest i have become very simple in making food. During summer period i often just make some chestnut mushrooms or the white ones..with some salt and pepper and eat that with bread and some slices of tomato. As it all comes down to just having something in your stomach. NOT that i am forcing myself to live that kind of life, but rather i am very content with it. I mean something so simply and quick to make, but ma'sha'Allah so tasty. Or even the salad that i mentioned..soo simple, but yet so tasty. I see them rather as life hacks.

I sometimes think if i would marry i FOR SURE would do injustice to my wife as i have declared war on onion and all of his family members, so because majority of people do invite onion and his family members REGULAR at their home..i am forcing my wife to also hate onion and his family members. Thus one way or the other i am one could say "forcing" my wife to leave something that is halal and very much loves to eat. People who do love garlic and onions when they eat the food that i make often say if a garlic or onion was in the dish..it would have tasted splendid. Maybe just wait until Allah gives me a wife that is like me..although people who also have declared war on onion and his family members are kind of rare. Yet, even if i find such a wife, FOR sure we would do injustice then to our kids. Anyhow if i marry and Allah for sure will show me a way out if not, well still alhamdulillah as i can cook the dishes myself with that doing nobody injustice. Every side has it's benefits .

Same with us w/ the fruits ;D ;D that's so funny..subhanallah our cultures are similar in many ways.

If i remember correctly the Arabs put fruits on the table when eating for example diner.

The MOST bizarre and MOST confusing culture that i EVER have witnessed is the Moroccan culture. I went to a wedding of a old friend of mine and we were sitting there. It started around 17:00. So we thought well they will bring food around 18:00-19:00. So we patiently sitting there. Then it already become like 19:30 and they said food will come in about an hour..so it would be 20:30. The table that i was sitting at with some other Kurdish friend of mine, his little brother and his parents. Also some old Chinese female friends of his and another Chinese friend of his with his girlfriend. Usually with Kurdish weddings if it starts around 17:00, then around 19:00 FOR SURE it is time to eat..(energy to "dance" the rest of the evening). So the wedding went on and the clock turned 21:00. Still no food, we all were looking at each other like..what's going on? Even the non-Moroccan friends of the bride were looking around looking hungry. So we again asked when the diner is going to be served. They said it is gonna be served around 22:00. So we the Kurdish guests we patiently waited and even the Chinese ones were getting impatient. They were almost gonna leave for Mcdonalds, but stayed. So it became 22:30 ..noo food. People were getting VERY impatient. Then FINALLY at i believe 23:00 hours the plates came. 2/3 chickens on every plate. So we thought..well very strange and all at this time to eat, while most of the people are heading to bed. Anyhow we started to eat.. guess what.. they ruined the chicken so badly that even though hungry many of us just abstain from eating it because it tasted so bad. I am not sure how Moroccans make their food, but that was just a disaster. After that we still being hungry, they came with plates of fruit. We tried to calm our hunger with some fruit. The Chinese guests were so disappointed like us, so we decided to go and head our own way. They said wait a little bit..the dessert is also coming, but we said thank you but it is already late and we have a long way ahead of us.

We later asked that friend of ours of..what happened why did they took so long? He said he also did not know and apparently this was normal in Moroccan culture as he also was raised mostly in the west. Well that was my FIRST Moroccan wedding and also the LAST XD. Back i believe in 2007 i was with that Morrocan friend of mine and the other Kurdish friend of mine and his little brother in Morocco during holiday. Every time we went somewhere to eat, i said i want "brochette" or whatever it is called..that is like a kebap. Why? Because i KNEW for sure that has a descent taste. My friends were disappointing in me for not trying out other dishes, i said i am hungry i do not have time to try out some of their dishes (couscous for example)..well sorry but tasted horrible. Later on finding out that it tastes HORRIBLE and you HAVE to eat it because you are hungry. I always say better safe than sorry XD. I would say maybe the Moroccans have very LITTLE in common with the rest of the Arab culture. Although i am not that sure of it.

omg ;D why not just by medium sized jars and make many of them?? whenever you're near the end, you will be able to make a new ones before it finishes. If you make a big batch and it goes bad or the jar breaks or anything happens, then you will lose the whole thing. Plus it will be too annoying to move around or take from it because it will be too big and too deep.

You do have a point there. Very convincing argument. in'sha'Allah soon then.

 

[*charisma*]

Well even my own culture, the limited time that i did spent in the Middle East as a child one could say i haven't even had enough of dishes of my own culture. Anyhow the food that i do eat well to be honest i have become very simple in making food. During summer period i often just make some chestnut mushrooms or the white ones..with some salt and pepper and eat that with bread and some slices of tomato. As it all comes down to just having something in your stomach. NOT that i am forcing myself to live that kind of life, but rather i am very content with it. I mean something so simply and quick to make, but ma'sha'Allah so tasty. Or even the salad that i mentioned..soo simple, but yet so tasty. I see them rather as life hacks.

I sometimes think if i would marry i FOR SURE would do injustice to my wife as i have declared war on onion and all of his family members, so because majority of people do invite onion and his family members REGULAR at their home..i am forcing my wife to also hate onion and his family members. Thus one way or the other i am one could say "forcing" my wife to leave something that is halal and very much loves to eat. People who do love garlic and onions when they eat the food that i make often say if a garlic or onion was in the dish..it would have tasted splendid. Maybe just wait until Allah gives me a wife that is like me..although people who also have declared war on onion and his family members are kind of rare. Yet, even if i find such a wife, FOR sure we would do injustice then to our kids. Anyhow if i marry and Allah for sure will show me a way out if not, well still alhamdulillah as i can cook the dishes myself with that doing nobody injustice. Every side has it's benefits .

You seem a bit picky with food though. Like if a dish is too complex you will not like it if you do not recognize the flavors. I can only imagine how you would react to find fruit in your food ;D In some cultures they add raisins to the rice. It's delicious

I'm sure that if there are onions in a dish, and you couldn't tell they were there, you will enjoy it Your wife will just have to be a really good cook.

If i remember correctly the Arabs put fruits on the table when eating for example diner.

No for us we serve it after dinner, while everyone is gathered around drinking turkish coffee. It's like a dessert..but there is also real dessert ;D Although I love fruit.

We later asked that friend of ours of..what happened why did they took so long? He said he also did not know and apparently this was normal in Moroccan culture as he also was raised mostly in the west. Well that was my FIRST Moroccan wedding and also the LAST XD. Back i believe in 2007 i was with that Morrocan friend of mine and the other Kurdish friend of mine and his little brother in Morocco during holiday. Every time we went somewhere to eat, i said i want "brochette" or whatever it is called..that is like a kebap. Why? Because i KNEW for sure that has a descent taste. My friends were disappointing in me for not trying out other dishes, i said i am hungry i do not have time to try out some of their dishes (couscous for example)..well sorry but tasted horrible. Later on finding out that it tastes HORRIBLE and you HAVE to eat it because you are hungry. I always say better safe than sorry XD. I would say maybe the Moroccans have very LITTLE in common with the rest of the Arab culture. Although i am not that sure of it.

That is so crazy. I LOVED moroccan food, although I did have it in morocco, so i'm sure that makes a huge difference. I felt the same way you did when I had indian food for the first, and second time in the US. I thought it was horrible and I didn't even think it was worth trying again. It wasn't until I had it in Saudi that I fell in love with it because it was cooked like it was supposed to. I think when food leaves it's country of origin, especially when it relies on the region's specific ingredients, it makes a huge difference in the overall dish. Like in Morocco their beef is sooo amazing. I haven't had meat like that anywhere else in the world. I'm positive that it will never taste the same if it were made elsewhere. In one's ethnic country, the food tastes different than when its brought to the west for several reasons: 1) the recipe changes because they are trying to fit the palate of everyone (including westerners). 2) the ingredients and cooking methods are different, 3) the cooks are not as skilled. So I think you just had a bad experience of moroccan food, but if you had the real authentic dishes, you will like them.

 

[Simple_Person]

You seem a bit picky with food though. Like if a dish is too complex you will not like it if you do not recognize the flavors. I can only imagine how you would react to find fruit in your food ;D In some cultures they add raisins to the rice. It's delicious

I'm sure that if there are onions in a dish, and you couldn't tell they were there, you will enjoy it Your wife will just have to be a really good cook.

Well no, i am not "picky" with food, but as a TYPICAL Kurd, when we are hungry, it is not the time to taste food and "sniff" the culture so to say. My WHOLE day is ruined if when i am hungry and i have to east something that is disgusting. There is "tasting" and there is "eating". I am more then open for tasting food, but that is when i am NOT hungry OR i have ordered dish X (which is FOR SURE food with taste i like) and somebody else has ordered dish Y which is unknown to me and to him/her. I am more then open to taste the dish Y. If i like it, next time i will order it. If i do not like it, i will not order it next time. So the end result being, i have tasted, made a conclusion and i am "safe" to eat my dish that i KNOW the taste is good .

So this is rather a very smart way to approach it, whatever it might be, i win. I taste the food somebody else has ordered, know it for the future to order it or NOT order it XD but still be the winner as having eating some very good food . If you say this is bad logic, well do give me a better approach than this one, because this is so solid that i ALWAYS win ;D.

My own mother told me.. ooh my son.. i will make it as such that you will not taste it. So i said oke..do your best. At the end, i said i taste the onions. She all annoyed for me bringing that up. My tongue is like the nose of a dog, when it comes to onions. Till now ONLY my aunt is able to make for example dolma/yaprag and me knowing that it contains onions, without tasting it.

No for us we serve it after dinner, while everyone is gathered around drinking turkish coffee. It's like a dessert..but there is also real dessert ;D Although I love fruit.

With us Kurds, our dessert is ALWAYS tea . I will not have it other way to be honest. Because when you have eaten, here in the west they add something TO the stomach, filling it up more. This also happens with fruit. As it also is filling up the stomach. However tea..that is taste and also extra water to help to digest the food. As after eating the stomach needs a lot of fluids to digest the food. Tea is a good helper with it. Although fruit might also be like that, but fruit besides being cold, it also doesn't need to be only water (orange)..but a apple is a bit heavy even a banana.. You get what i am trying to say.

That is so crazy. I LOVED moroccan food, although I did have it in morocco, so i'm sure that makes a huge difference. I felt the same way you did when I had indian food for the first, and second time in the US. I thought it was horrible and I didn't even think it was worth trying again. It wasn't until I had it in Saudi that I fell in love with it because it was cooked like it was supposed to. I think when food leaves it's country of origin, especially when it relies on the region's specific ingredients, it makes a huge difference in the overall dish. Like in Morocco their beef is sooo amazing. I haven't had meat like that anywhere else in the world. I'm positive that it will never taste the same if it were made elsewhere. In one's ethnic country, the food tastes different than when its brought to the west for several reasons: 1) the recipe changes because they are trying to fit the palate of everyone (including westerners). 2) the ingredients and cooking methods are different, 3) the cooks are not as skilled. So I think you just had a bad experience of moroccan food, but if you had the real authentic dishes, you will like them.

Well i HATE it when people order food for me. The Kurdish friend of mine ordered it for me while i objected it, but he insisting it. Then after serving it..me tasting it and i did not like it. Who takes the blame? ..Well he is THE TYPICAL person that never takes the blame although he being responsible. He is typically the person that want people to be like him and how he sees things and how he experiences things. Anyways i do not hang out with him anymore. To be honest "good riddance" although i had known him for like 20 years.(i know it looks like cold hearted, but him also not being a Muslim and rather hating it because it is the "Arab religion" as how he stated it. As he hates Arabs because of the oppression done to the Kurds). Anyways, stick to what you know and walk the safe passage. Do not jump in it, but slowly 1 foot after the other when tasting food .

So far the ONLY food i liked was the brochette and also some sandwhich with large pieces of meat. But that was back then and these days i have gotten over the meat addiction and love other food more.

 

[*charisma*]

Well no, i am not "picky" with food, but as a TYPICAL Kurd, when we are hungry, it is not the time to taste food and "sniff" the culture so to say. My WHOLE day is ruined if when i am hungry and i have to east something that is disgusting. There is "tasting" and there is "eating". I am more then open for tasting food, but that is when i am NOT hungry OR i have ordered dish X (which is FOR SURE food with taste i like) and somebody else has ordered dish Y which is unknown to me and to him/her. I am more then open to taste the dish Y. If i like it, next time i will order it. If i do not like it, i will not order it next time. So the end result being, i have tasted, made a conclusion and i am "safe" to eat my dish that i KNOW the taste is good .

So this is rather a very smart way to approach it, whatever it might be, i win. I taste the food somebody else has ordered, know it for the future to order it or NOT order it XD but still be the winner as having eating some very good food . If you say this is bad logic, well do give me a better approach than this one, because this is so solid that i ALWAYS win .

The fact that you have a method proves that you are picky ;D

But I get you, tasting vs eating. The only thing I do not like and which are my "onions" is seafood. I'd never call any type of food disgusting though because it's a blessing despite how we feel about it. If I were really starving, I mean like days of no food type of starving, I'd probably eat the fish and be quite thankful lol.

Well i HATE it when people order food for me. The Kurdish friend of mine ordered it for me while i objected it, but he insisting it. Then after serving it..me tasting it and i did not like it. Who takes the blame? ..Well he is THE TYPICAL person that never takes the blame although he being responsible. He is typically the person that want people to be like him and how he sees things and how he experiences things. Anyways i do not hang out with him anymore. To be honest "good riddance" although i had known him for like 20 years.(i know it looks like cold hearted, but him also not being a Muslim and rather hating it because it is the "Arab religion" as how he stated it. As he hates Arabs because of the oppression done to the Kurds). Anyways, stick to what you know and walk the safe passage. Do not jump in it, but slowly 1 foot after the other when tasting food .

So far the ONLY food i liked was the brochette and also some sandwhich with large pieces of meat. But that was back then and these days i have gotten over the meat addiction and love other food more.

I guess that guy hit a nerve with you bringing back that memory ;D I guess if there are types of food that you don't know if you will like, the best thing to do is taste the food that other people will order just to know whether or not it's something you can tolerate like you mentioned.

I have a question..what types of dishes does your culture make during ramadan? Particularly sweets and appetizers. I want some new ideas to try

 

[Simple_Person]

The fact that you have a method proves that you are picky ;D

But I get you, tasting vs eating. The only thing I do not like and which are my "onions" is seafood. I'd never call any type of food disgusting though because it's a blessing despite how we feel about it. If I were really starving, I mean like days of no food type of starving, I'd probably eat the fish and be quite thankful lol.

Well if you have had your share with trauma's about food and somebody just because of hate towards you ON PURPOSE putting EXTRA of that ingredient that you dislike, you might understand it as i sadly have had in the past. Anyways, finding something disgusting is rather a personal experience, it doesn't mean that specific food is disgusting by Allah's standards. By Allah's standards we already know what Allah has prohibited for us. So me saying disgusting is rather a "personal perspective of it". I even say to people that onion is one of the MOST healthiest vegetables there is, so i never brand it as bad all the way, because i don't like it.

NO SEAFOOD? ooh you are missing out XD..."sushi .."..Also no salmon? baked or whatever?

I guess that guy hit a nerve with you bringing back that memory ;D I guess if there are types of food that you don't know if you will like, the best thing to do is taste the food that other people will order just to know whether or not it's something you can tolerate like you mentioned.

I have a question..what types of dishes does your culture make during ramadan? Particularly sweets and appetizers. I want some new ideas to try

Just as forcing somebody in embracing Islam is disliked by Allah, this i apply to everything. Do NOT force people to like or dislike things. And yes that guy hitting a nerve is because i really dislike people who force you in liking something or FORCING you to take up his/her advice, later on being a very bad advice they not taking responsibility for the act. Rather EXACTLY what Allah describes the moment on Day of Judgement sheytan saying..don't blame me..i only invited you. So that is why i do not listen to people and if somebody gives me advice i look at that advice from a logical, rational and reasonable point of view. If it is good, i adopt it, if not..i reject it. If later on it fails to be good advice i ONLY blame myself for it, because i adopted by free will.

Well during Ramadan especially we eat as sweets "baqlawa", but if we look something that is typically Kurdish we talk about "kade/kolecha". That is a something a sweet that is made from dough and filled with mix of some sugar and walnuts, or that white stuff from the coconuts (forgot the name), or date paste.

In this video it is only shown the more easier one how to make it. The more difficult ones..my mother and sister were at it for a WHOLE day. You see those on the first picture. Making A LOT of them off course.

Btw, i bought a jar and soon in'sha'Allah i will be making "turshi"

 

[*charisma*]

NO SEAFOOD? ooh you are missing out XD..."sushi .."..Also no salmon? baked or whatever?

NOPE! just canned tuna..that's the ONLY seafood I can eat. And it has to be this special kind which is really clean from scales and veins lol.

Well during Ramadan especially we eat as sweets "baqlawa", but if we look something that is typically Kurdish we talk about "kade/kolecha". That is a something a sweet that is made from dough and filled with mix of some sugar and walnuts, or that white stuff from the coconuts (forgot the name), or date paste.

White stuff from coconuts is called coconut meat when it's fresh. When it's dried it's called coconut flakes or desiccated coconut. The first pic looks yummy and cute id love to try that inshallah. Is the texture of the outside hard/crunchy or soft?? I wonder if it's similar to our ma'moul which is typically filled with nuts or dates, although the dough part looks different.

Btw, i bought a jar and soon in'sha'Allah i will be making "turshi"

About time ;D let us know how it turns out Ive wanted to make pickled veggies but I'm so scared I'll fail and everyone gets poisoned loool

 

[Simple_Person]

NOPE! just canned tuna..that's the ONLY seafood I can eat. And it has to be this special kind which is really clean from scales and veins lol.

Alhamdulillah me not liking onion and his family members, gives rather a good perspective. For example, when making food i go the extra mile to give guests the possibility to add the ingredient that they want to it, or abstain to use that ingredient they do not like. For example, even with the salad i tell them i will make two bowls and give them the chance to slice the onions for themselves and enhance the flavor for themselves.

To people who are "picky" we are bothered by them, while to be honest it is WE who are in error if you ask me. I mean a child that is a different issue as the child is still growing up and his body is changing. However when we talk about adults is to take note of their dislikes in food. If the child had a NORMAL upbringing they will maybe at max don't like 1 or 2 things. I mean in the end what is more enjoyable is them REALLY having enjoyed the food and not just for the sake of "eating it". When you are poor that is a different matter all together off course to not be picky as there is almost nothing to eat. Logically speaking if Allah made food just for the sake of feeding ourselves if you are not poor, then he also would have not given us taste buds. So is also enjoying the food you eat. So seeing this from such a perspective gives me a better emphatic approach towards others.

I remember that when i disliked certain food because of EVEN EXTRA onions being added to it on purpose because that individual knew i disliked onions. With that i MANY times have said "naah i am not hungry". That is just heartbreaking remembering it. I don't know if you have experienced that, but i can tell you from experience that i KNOW till this day exactly how i felt those times. Having only breakfast in the morning and that is it for the whole day. Sleeping on a empty stomach is a memory that has been engraved in to my soul. I also remember alhamdulillah finding money on the street or using a little magnet on a rope to catch money i see in places out of reach and with that little amount of money that i collected buying bread and chocolate spread to calm my hunger those days. However that individual coming in to the room while i was at school and throwing away my bread and chocolate spread that i bought with finding money on the street as i was too young to be able to work. With that using the excuse of "it may become all moldy".

However now alhamdulillah knowing the blessing of fasting, but this is by free will, not forced upon you.

White stuff from coconuts is called coconut meat when it's fresh. When it's dried it's called coconut flakes or desiccated coconut. The first pic looks yummy and cute id love to try that inshallah. Is the texture of the outside hard/crunchy or soft?? I wonder if it's similar to our ma'moul which is typically filled with nuts or dates, although the dough part looks different.

The texture outside is fairly soft but still a bit crunching. As the stuffing is doesn't need to be cooked. It is rather of having the dough being cooked so you do not eat the dough XD.

I just took a look at how ma'moul was made, ..that is just TOO much of date paste at one spot.

About time ;D let us know how it turns out Ive wanted to make pickled veggies but I'm so scared I'll fail and everyone gets poisoned loool

I'll ask my mother again how to make it as i have maybe asked her already like 2-3 times but if you never make it you will forget it instantly. We Kurds like salty and sour food. I believe this is also because of what the mother eats when she is pregnant.

"O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." Qur'an 49:13

So rather sub'han'Allah this is part of the gift that Allah gives us. The culture aspect. If a people is guided away from bad and harmful food (pig meat, insects, blood, alcohol etc. ), their children will also not eat it. For example people i know Kurds for example, although they themselves do not associate themselves with any religion they STRONGLY dislike pig meat while they have tried it in the past. I often hear from them, i like all kind of meat as long as it is not pig meat.

During the years that i was an atheist, i have tasted pig meat. There is NOTHING ..and i mean NOTHING so disgusting ..LITERALLY DISGUSTING than that meat. You often when listening to people who try out some food they say "it tastes like this or tastes like that". Pig meat has NO EQUAL when it comes to taste. It is literally so disgusting that about half year ago or so i was eating pig meat in my dream or tasted it and i started to retch in my dream because of the taste. When i woke up i still had the taste in my mouth and was still retching. Me just thinking about it i get the chills and also start retching again.

 

[*charisma*]

Alhamdulillah me not liking onion and his family members, gives rather a good perspective. For example, when making food i go the extra mile to give guests the possibility to add the ingredient that they want to it, or abstain to use that ingredient they do not like. For example, even with the salad i tell them i will make two bowls and give them the chance to slice the onions for themselves and enhance the flavor for themselves.

Yeh when I invite people over for the first time, I ask them if there is anything they do not like/eat so I can accommodate for them in that manner. But as a guest, I try to eat whatever the household serves.

I remember that when i disliked certain food because of EVEN EXTRA onions being added to it on purpose because that individual knew i disliked onions.

That's mean

That is just heartbreaking remembering it. I don't know if you have experienced that, but i can tell you from experience that i KNOW till this day exactly how i felt those times. Having only breakfast in the morning and that is it for the whole day. Sleeping on a empty stomach is a memory that has been engraved in to my soul. I also remember alhamdulillah finding money on the street or using a little magnet on a rope to catch money i see in places out of reach and with that little amount of money that i collected buying bread and chocolate spread to calm my hunger those days. However that individual coming in to the room while i was at school and throwing away my bread and chocolate spread that i bought with finding money on the street as i was too young to be able to work. With that using the excuse of "it may become all moldy".

However now alhamdulillah knowing the blessing of fasting, but this is by free will, not forced upon you.

aww that's sad. I think that made you a stronger person alhemdulilah. Even though..I'd never wish for a kid to have to go through that... But i gotta say you were smart as a kid mashallah collecting money. Where did you grow up?

The texture outside is fairly soft but still a bit crunching. As the stuffing is doesn't need to be cooked. It is rather of having the dough being cooked so you do not eat the dough XD.

I just took a look at how ma'moul was made, ..that is just TOO much of date paste at one spot.

Yes I assumed it was cooked ;D The filled ma'moul is soo yummy. That date paste is needed for a perfect tasting ma'amoul..I like it stuffed like that. I've had some which were not as stuffed but they're not as good. Sigh or maybe I'm just a fatty loool

I'll ask my mother again how to make it as i have maybe asked her already like 2-3 times but if you never make it you will forget it instantly. We Kurds like salty and sour food. I believe this is also because of what the mother eats when she is pregnant.

yea some people really love the salty sour combination subhanallah. In falesteen there are these sour green plums that they eat, and they add salt to them. I've never tried it but it's interesting how that flavor combination is popular.

So rather sub'han'Allah this is part of the gift that Allah gives us. The culture aspect. If a people is guided away from bad and harmful food (pig meat, insects, blood, alcohol etc. ), their children will also not eat it. For example people i know Kurds for example, although they themselves do not associate themselves with any religion they STRONGLY dislike pig meat while they have tried it in the past. I often hear from them, i like all kind of meat as long as it is not pig meat.

During the years that i was an atheist, i have tasted pig meat. There is NOTHING ..and i mean NOTHING so disgusting ..LITERALLY DISGUSTING than that meat. You often when listening to people who try out some food they say "it tastes like this or tastes like that". Pig meat has NO EQUAL when it comes to taste. It is literally so disgusting that about half year ago or so i was eating pig meat in my dream or tasted it and i started to retch in my dream because of the taste. When i woke up i still had the taste in my mouth and was still retching. Me just thinking about it i get the chills and also start retching again.

I have had it by accident as a kid. It was vile. I totally understand what you mean. Even the smell is disgusting..I don't know how people eat it. I can't eat anything that remotely reminds me of it. Like they have "halal bacon" available made from beef or turkey, but it just reminds me of the real stuff in the way it looks and smells so I have never grown to like anything that is meant to replace it lol.

 

[Simple_Person]

Yeh when I invite people over for the first time, I ask them if there is anything they do not like/eat so I can accommodate for them in that manner. But as a guest, I try to eat whatever the household serves.

I remember the hadith that Rasullah(saws) said something like serve your guest very good 3 days and every day longer, is just sadaqa or something like that. Also for the guest to NOT stay longer than 3 days as you will rather harm them.

That's mean

Some people are very strange. Their hatred and envy goes so far that it is not healthy anymore. EXACTLY that thing that Islam warns us to not fall in. Wishing something for yourself, but not others to have it. Some people go so far that they do sihr to just satisfy their desire of hatred and envy. Alhamdulillah never fallen under sihr or anything in that sense.

aww that's sad. I think that made you a stronger person alhemdulilah. Even though..I'd never wish for a kid to have to go through that... But i gotta say you were smart as a kid mashallah collecting money. Where did you grow up?

I do not regret anything. Because it remembered me of people in Mecca that they sent their children with the Bedouins. So i rather at the age 9 feel rather blessed to have gone through a rough childhood in the west. Something is strange that when the body and mind go through a lot of stress, one becomes very creative in things.

Yes I assumed it was cooked ;D The filled ma'moul is soo yummy. That date paste is needed for a perfect tasting ma'amoul..I like it stuffed like that. I've had some which were not as stuffed but they're not as good. Sigh or maybe I'm just a fatty loool

I've never had ma'moul, but looking at it, seems the taste is a bit to conquering in your mouth. Rather what is delicious
is something that massages your taste buds so to say.

yea some people really love the salty sour combination subhanallah. In falesteen there are these sour green plums that they eat, and they add salt to them. I've never tried it but it's interesting how that flavor combination is popular.

You mean these? Because this is also one of our habits with salt XD

I have had it by accident as a kid. It was vile. I totally understand what you mean. Even the smell is disgusting..I don't know how people eat it. I can't eat anything that remotely reminds me of it. Like they have "halal bacon" available made from beef or turkey, but it just reminds me of the real stuff in the way it looks and smells so I have never grown to like anything that is meant to replace it lol.

Here in the west some acquaintance of mine, worked in a slaughter house and she said pig meat stinks. I said what do you mean? She said when a animal is slaughtered, the meat off course is fresh and doesn't contain anything or nothing is sprinkled over it..no herbs..no spices..not seasoned. She said, while other meat from cow to chicken etc..smells normal, pig meat smells very bad.

People are idiots that want to imitate haram things. I have eaten or drunk things in the time as an atheist that are haram for Muslim and i say we as Muslims DO NOT MISS ON ANYTHING ..NOT EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST SENSE. it is ALL nonsense from sheytan to desire that which Allah makes haram, but i can say "been there, done that" all regret nothing more than that. No enjoyment, no fulfillment, no happiness, no empowerment, ..no nothing...just misery upon misery. Look at people who live such a lifestyle and look at their stare ..look at their eyes.

Eyes full of misery and emptiness. When they laugh, it is so fake. They are surrounded by "friends" "enjoying" glass of wine, while you see they are lonely while being surrounded by friends. I know the stare because I USE to have that stare. For somebody who has not have had that stare it is hard to see, but believe me.. as Muslims and the ones that with every atom in their body are convinced Islam is the true religion you are not missing even the smallest thing on this earth.

The BEST and the MOST valued that this world has to offer can ONLY be found in Islam. From food, to clothing, to manners, to enjoyment, to relaxation, to knowledge, to wisdom..etc. etc.

 

[noraina]

*noraina can't resist and slides into the discussion*

I have had it by accident as a kid. It was vile. I totally understand what you mean. Even the smell is disgusting..I don't know how people eat it. I can't eat anything that remotely reminds me of it. Like they have "halal bacon" available made from beef or turkey, but it just reminds me of the real stuff in the way it looks and smells so I have never grown to like anything that is meant to replace it lol.

When I six years-old I was duped into eating it by a girl insisting it was halal. I remember I spat it straight out in disgust. :skeleton:


btw, I can't stand onions either brother [MENTION=40458]Simple_Person[/MENTION] . I'm such a fussy eater - bless my mum for catering to all of my foodie requirements. Even if that means sometimes making a separate dish for me, lol. And, for example, I am partly Afghan and Kabuli pilaf is a big thing in Afghan cuisine, and a big thing of Kabuli Pilaf is the sweetened raisins and carrots on top. I *can't* eat them - much to the horror of my aunt.

And sushi - it tastes kinda slimy...

 

[Umm♥Layth]

Cured meats have been around from the beginning of humanity guys. It is a way to preserve meat without having to use refrigeration. If you study some food anthropology, you'll see this in every culture. Not everything is shaytaan's fault or an imitation of the kuffar. Not everyone comes from middle eastern and asian backgrounds

Did you know sushi was made to preserve fish? It was nothing like it is now;people didn't even eat the rice lol. The original stuff doesn't taste as good as the modern rolls. I made some the other day just to try it out lol.The rice was actually fermented and vinegar was never used.

The same is true for all pickles, they were all fermented and vinegar was never used. This is a modern invention with zero health benefits.

Western, pork eating countries popularized bacon, but that doesn't mean other cultures didn't have a similar cut of meat preserved (like brisket for example, that would turn into "bacon" in you preserve it with salt and seasonings). That isn't an imitation, it is just a fact. Fatty cuts of meat that are preserved in salt will resemble what we know today as "bacon".

Different cultures use different seasonings as well, so what one person may be used to, another will think is horrid. We have Muslims from all over the globe Alhamdullilah, and surely somebody felt that beef "bacon" was appropriate to introduce.

Just a friendly reminder to keep learning new things every day and hold our opinions as sometimes they get in the way of new knowledge and closes us up to new experiences . If I had not opened up to new cuisines, I would have never known that ginger can be used in savory food and yogurt can be eaten with vegetables and spices... it just isn't something we do in my culture. My mom is still quite disgusted at the thought of it all...

 

[Simple_Person]

*noraina can't resist and slides into the discussion*



When I six years-old I was duped into eating it by a girl insisting it was halal. I remember I spat it straight out in disgust. :skeleton:


btw, I can't stand onions either brother [MENTION=40458]Simple_Person[/MENTION] . I'm such a fussy eater - bless my mum for catering to all of my foodie requirements. Even if that means sometimes making a separate dish for me, lol. And, for example, I am partly Afghan and Kabuli pilaf is a big thing in Afghan cuisine, and a big thing of Kabuli Pilaf is the sweetened raisins and carrots on top. I *can't* eat them - much to the horror of my aunt.

And sushi - it tastes kinda slimy...

In Kurdisch culture some put raisins in Biryani (I am sure everybody here knows what Biryani is XD ). That is just a no go. There are some who put onions in Biryani. Even my mother was surprised that some do that. That is just wasting a dilicious dish by the mafia family (onion and his family members).

I have never tasted the Biryani from Pakistan ..Afghanistan India era but I have heard is much more spicy than our Biryani spices.

I feel suddenly less strange not liking the mafia vegetable family knowing you also do not like it.

Well I am not about the texture of food rather the taste. Although just recently a friend of mine made his own hamburger version but forgot that I dislike al capone. He had also put Don himself in it. For the sake of not throwing away food as that is a blessing from Allah I forced myself to eat it. Sometimes a piece of onion would come on my tongue.I couldn't find the strength to bite on it being afraid of him spreading his posion on my taste buds...threw those away. XD. Life is hard especially if people one way or the other want to force you in eating certain types of foods.

 

[*charisma*]

Alhamdulillah never fallen under sihr or anything in that sense.

Yes absolutely, alhemdulilah for that..it's crazy what hatred/jealousy makes people do.

I've never had ma'moul, but looking at it, seems the taste is a bit to conquering in your mouth. Rather what is delicious
is something that massages your taste buds so to say.

;D here you go again you picky eater looool "massaging the taste buds"
It tastes perfect, especially with sugarless coffee because it's sweet and caramely in a way especially with certain dates. However, they also sprinkle powdered sugar on top sometimes, which I think is too overpowering with the sweetness.

btw i found a really good kolecha recipe and inshallah I'm gna make it sometime soon.

You mean these? Because this is also one of our habits with salt XD

YES! those are exactly the ones subhanallah

Here in the west some acquaintance of mine, worked in a slaughter house and she said pig meat stinks. I said what do you mean? She said when a animal is slaughtered, the meat off course is fresh and doesn't contain anything or nothing is sprinkled over it..no herbs..no spices..not seasoned. She said, while other meat from cow to chicken etc..smells normal, pig meat smells very bad.

That makes sense considering it eats EVERYTHING. PLus it doesn't sweat so all of those toxins remain in the body..ew. It even smells bad when it's cooked and when it's alive ;D I don't even wanna know what it smells like when it's dead lol.

People are idiots that want to imitate haram things. I have eaten or drunk things in the time as an atheist that are haram for Muslim and i say we as Muslims DO NOT MISS ON ANYTHING ..NOT EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST SENSE. it is ALL nonsense from sheytan to desire that which Allah makes haram, but i can say "been there, done that" all regret nothing more than that. No enjoyment, no fulfillment, no happiness, no empowerment, ..no nothing...just misery upon misery. Look at people who live such a lifestyle and look at their stare ..look at their eyes.

I know right. Well I mean some people have never had bacon but they like the "halal bacon" just as theyd like other deli meats such as mortadella. So it's not like theyve had anything to compare it with. But because I have, I can't get close to it. I get what you mean though. Alhemdulilah for our deen.

*noraina can't resist and slides into the discussion*

Welcome welcome

When I six years-old I was duped into eating it by a girl insisting it was halal. I remember I spat it straight out in disgust.

aww..yeah u know I actually had lunch ladies TELL ME that ham is not from a pig when I'd say I couldn't eat ham. Like they genuinely DID not know that it comes from a pig!! It smelled so bad ughhh i think on those days i preferred to starve lol.

btw, I can't stand onions either brother @Simple_Person . I'm such a fussy eater - bless my mum for catering to all of my foodie requirements. Even if that means sometimes making a separate dish for me, lol. And, for example, I am partly Afghan and Kabuli pilaf is a big thing in Afghan cuisine, and a big thing of Kabuli Pilaf is the sweetened raisins and carrots on top. I *can't* eat them - much to the horror of my aunt.

And sushi - it tastes kinda slimy...

I've never tasted sushi, but I'm with you on that..

HOWEVERRRRR the carrots and raisins..omg...I'd have disowned you ;D I be addin extra. And we also add crispy onions. Best toppings on rice. Man Idk what I'd be eating with you both...like plain rice with a piece of chicken on the side. ;D

WHERE IS THE FUN IN THAT?! WHERE IS THE FLAVA? Whereee is the color loool

 

[*charisma*]

Western, pork eating countries popularized bacon, but that doesn't mean other cultures didn't have a similar cut of meat preserved (like brisket for example, that would turn into "bacon" in you preserve it with salt and seasonings). That isn't an imitation, it is just a fact. Fatty cuts of meat that are preserved in salt will resemble what we know today as "bacon".

Yea I can't eat anything preserved either..like "jerky" idk..it's just all in that category. There's just something artificial about them..perhaps the ones which are mass produced have a lot of preservatives (nitrates) that make them taste that way, but I'd be more willing to taste something that is more natural like basturma which is more commonly made naturally.

It's not even the seasonings or anything..the seasonings are good..but its like the smell and the fat that oozes from it like its sweating..idk how to explain it lol.

 

[Umm♥Layth]

Yea I can't eat anything preserved either..like "jerky" idk..it's just all in that category. There's just something artificial about them..perhaps the ones which are mass produced have a lot of preservatives (nitrates) that make them taste that way, but I'd be more willing to taste something that is more natural like basturma which is more commonly made naturally.

It's not even the seasonings or anything..the seasonings are good..but its like the smell and the fat that oozes from it like its sweating..idk how to explain it lol.

I feel you. I haven't had any of the modern preserved meats in over 7 years because of the nitrates and other additives. I know exactly t he flavor you are trying to describe and I do believe it comes from preservatives. I will let you know when I preserve my own and compare lol. Until then u_u I have to go without as I'm not willing to put garbage in my body lol.