If it is on the net it is there forever

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I don't suppose they're at liberty to disclose the names of those third parties so you can contact them directly.

If you google yourself you'll find all sorts of odd companies like 'my life' or 'find people' etc. that have all your information, if you contact them to remove they'll tell you that they attained this information because it is public records, believe me they do nothing but give you the run around. Any company you do business with will sell your information to other third parties, I think that should be made illegal.
It is like someone taking your organs without your consent, unless you specify you don't want them taken but by then you're in no shape to do anything about it!

The record-keeping itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, but rather the scope for its abuse.

Everything from stalkers to identity thieves, my friend had someone steal her identity opened credit cards in her name bought like crazy- all the things you deny yourself they do in your name and yet those who are so keen to tell you if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't worry, are doing nothing to protect your rights!

This poor girl is one extreme case I don't think she was equipped to handle what came her way but really the police etc. aren't gonna help you any. They're there to simply create terrorists out of ordinary citizens while letting outlaws free to have at you!

As Sartre said: 'Hell is other people'.

I always hated that book and the lidless people in it..

 

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We have NO IDEA how her life was, so we should not judge and say that she was weak because she killed herself. And the girl is extremly young and doesnt probably know herself. It is really sad that young people are doing this to eachother. Some kids can be really evil...

 

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Curious, would this girl...go to heaven? 15...too young to know what she is doing or be held responsible like an adult. This story is so sad

In Islam,once someone starts their puberty or reach age 15 they are adults. I think it is age 15 but research it. The story is sad, though.

whoaaaaaaa.. I had no idea there was a whole page # 1 when I checked earlier..
at any rate.. the age of reason per Islam is 40!
It doesn't mean that they're not held responsible for choices made earlier but at any rate it is a matter up to Allah swt..

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50:29 "The Word changes not before Me, and I do not the least injustice to My Servants."

She will not meet with injustice with Allah swt but we can't speculate of it. It is however something that we should learn from and in fact something that shouldn't be repeated!
But they're not big on preventative measures in the west. They love to create it and then talk about with their vigils and their alligator tears which arrive after the fact of the matter but never a root cause analysis for every evil they create there are no precautions to curb it.

I remember a couple of years ago two of my classmates died by a drunk driver, and they weren't any regular two people, but hard working medical doctors just starting out, newly engaged and meeting each other's family over the weekend when the moron killed them, he of course didn't die and got no time at all for involuntary man slaughter and yes they can go on drinking because why would they prohibit it when you can kill others and live as a drunk it is good for the bottom line!

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If you google yourself you'll find all sorts of odd companies like 'my life' or 'find people' etc. that have all your information, if you contact them to remove they'll tell you that they attained this information because it is public records, believe me they do nothing but give you the run around. Any company you do business with will sell your information to other third parties, I think that should be made illegal.
It is like someone taking your organs without your consent, unless you specify you don't want them taken but by then you're in no shape to do anything about it!

I agree with you. The law is desperately in need of reform in this area.

Everything from stalkers to identity thieves, my friend had someone steal her identity opened credit cards in her name bought like crazy- all the things you deny yourself they do in your name and yet those who are so keen to tell you if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't worry, are doing nothing to protect your rights!

I'm sorry to hear that your friend was a victim of identity theft.

The sad thing is, it is not in these parties' interest to protect our rights.

The worse thing is, there will probably not be any drastic change for at least a decade. Most of the people in power probably don't use the Internet, social networking etc as much as their, say, 10 year old (or even 20 year old) offspring, so they simply will not understand the gravity of the situation. The Internet is really like the Wild West in that regard. If I had a child, I would certainly not want him or her to use the Internet without supervision - or at least I would tell him or her how to use the thing correctly, and what kind of rubbish to avoid.

This poor girl is one extreme case I don't think she was equipped to handle what came her way but really the police etc. aren't gonna help you any. They're there to simply create terrorists out of ordinary citizens while letting outlaws free to have at you!

The police will probably tell you to be careful of what you divulge on the Internet.

Then again, I'm pretty sure cyber-stalking is covered under some recent UK legislation. I don't know about the US.

There is a debate going on about 'The Right to Be Forgotten', but from my understanding that's more about removing details from social networking sites than stopping unregulated web companies disseminating your name and address to all and sundry.

 

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Then again, I'm pretty sure cyber-stalking is covered under some recent UK legislation. I don't know about the US.

No such luck here however there was a huge case against a guy who was taping his neighbor's wife and kids, they have to have something bad happen before they act, and even if they confiscated the videos and gave him prison time, once a video or picture is out there somewhere it is there for life. So one had better think twice about the photos they take. Is it any wonder they want niqabis to disrobe?
I am not a part of any social network I so despise the idea and yet there's information about me on the web that I don't want to be there and for $3.00 you can get even more info like my phone number and email. I frankly think that's disgusting.
I have tape on my laptop's camera but I am pretty sure if the govt. wanted to spy on my home activities with video they'll find a way to do it.

The right to be forgotten sounds awesome doesn't it. Shouldn't a wo/man be entitled to their sense of self and property without every tom, dick and harry peaking in. Problem is not enough people are angry. I see them at the airport going through these machines like cattle. Don't give a fig who touches them where or who scans them. Is this normal? Every time I go through an airport where they demand that I put up a fight, end result is I get taken to a private room anyway with two butchy females feeling me everywhere but I refuse this cattle branding that happens otherwise.
What is wrong with the world, why are people so desensitized? Do they really believe that they're nothing more than an animal with communication abilities?