I'll be going to Umrah.....

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islamirama said:
That is the fitna of Indian subcontinent. The british ruled that land for over 100 years and they taught their slaves well in hating ibn Wahab. These people hate him so much and have so much lies they teach their kids that its mind boggling. I suggest you read the link i posted in last post and educate yourself before you go hating a great scholar and backbiting him.

As for the historical sites. There are some that are preserved and some in process of being preserved. This is an arab archaeologist who is trying to preserve theses. At the same time, some "historical" sites are just old places being demolished to make room for more development. And then there's some sites that ignorant people, like those from sub-indian continent, go to and start their bidah worship and rituals.
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sorry man, i should of check out the fact's before posting anything.
 
Hassan1987 said:
sorry man, i should of check out the fact's before posting anything.
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There is alot of misconceptions regarding Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab, especially in Indian sub continent.

I suggest you read his books and see for yourself what he preached, his books are still available.

Read his books with an open mind and see for yourself if there is anything wrong with them.

he preached a return to interpretating and praticing Islam according to the first 3 generations of Islam. Many people dislike this cos it destroys alot of deviant idea's and innovations. as well as cultural innovations that exist.

I don't see why any 1 would not want to pratice Islam like the first 3 generations understood and praticed Islam. They are the best of generations after all.
 
KittenLover said:
There is alot of misconceptions regarding Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab, especially in Indian sub continent.

I suggest you read his books and see for yourself what he preached, his books are still available.

Read his books with an open mind and see for yourself if there is anything wrong with them.

he preached a return to interpretating and praticing Islam according to the first 3 generations of Islam. Many people dislike this cos it destroys alot of deviant idea's and innovations. as well as cultural innovations that exist.

I don't see why any 1 would not want to pratice Islam like the first 3 generations understood and praticed Islam. They are the best of generations after all.
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wow man i really had no idea at all that he wanted it that way, definitely now i want to know more about him, and i want to practice Islam like the first 3 generation's as well, cause i agree with you Kitten they are the best generation's of Islam.

Do you have any good recommended book's that i should read about him ???
 
this is his book called kitaab at-tawheed.

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/kitab_ut_tawheed.pdf


this is a explanation of the book by Sheikh Feiz

http://www.kalamullah.com/sheikh-feiz.html

this is an explanation by Yasir Qadhi

http://www.audioislam.com/?seriesdetail=Kitaab at-Tawheed


you will see most of the book contains verses from the Qur'an as evidence against certain pratices. the author hardly gives his own input, it's all "Allah says" "Allah's messenger says"

this is his most famous book.
 
islamirama said:
And then there's some sites that ignorant people, like those from sub-indian continent, go to and start their bidah worship and rituals.
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What's with the racism bro, we're all brothers in Islam. Pakistanis are not ignorant, there are ignorant people from all parts of the world. There are ignorant Arabs also. You might have not meant it like that, but cmon now. That definitely sounds like you're being a racist. I think you're the one who said something bad about Obama being black too, but I could be wrong bout that.

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. "
The prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) last sermon
 
aamirsaab said:
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Pro tip 1: Make sure you know your gate exits - always go for the closest one (especially on your first day as you will be exhausted). Plan your way to the Ka'bah and back from the Saee.
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This is very important. Or if you forget which gate you came from, you can always go to the tawaf area and look at the Makkah Clock Tower, it's very tall tower, from there you can guess which direction is your hotel from the tower and you take the exit gate leading to the direction of your hotel.

Also always memorize the number and row of the rack where you put your sandal/shoes. It is easier to put your sandals in the rack near the gate where you came from.

Pro tip 3: Avoid KFC/Burger king. They rip you off: 20 riyals for a burger (25+ for meals). Your bog standard vendor will do a (crappy) burger for 5 riyal. Kudu is only good for apple pies - their burgers are expensive and don't taste good.
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Al Baik fried chicken is much more tasty than KFC/Burger King. Especially that garlic mayo sauce..hmm yuumm..


Pro tip 5: Once you have settled into the new time zone, a typical day will work something like this:
Fajr
(optional rest)
breakfast
(optional rest)
Dhur
(don't bother eating at the shops for lunch. Grab some fruit or eat something at hotel or w/e instead - not enough time)
Asr
Now you can eat some proper lunch
Maghrib
(no time to eat anything in between this and next namaz, Better to stay in Kabah sharif and chillax if you are tired or read Quran etc)
Isha
Now you can eat dinner.
Then rest until fajr.
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This is a good standard schedule. of course you may also want to observe i'tikaf and perform tahajjud, in which case you have to wake up at around 2 and walk to the masjidil haraam.

my tip:
if you want to have greatest chance to kiss hajar aswaad, do the optional tawaaf after dhuhaa (at around 9 or 10) where the crowd is at its smallest (although STILL a LOT of people) performing tawaaf. Do not attempt to kiss hajar aswaad during compulsory tawaaf (as part of umrah) because you may come into contact/touch/being pushed into the cover fabric of kabah which is heavily perfumed that may nullify your umra (remember we are not allowed to wear any perfume of any kind when we are in the state of ihram).
 
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Shakoor15 said:
What's with the racism bro, we're all brothers in Islam. Pakistanis are not ignorant, there are ignorant people from all parts of the world. There are ignorant Arabs also. You might have not meant it like that, but cmon now. That definitely sounds like you're being a racist. I think you're the one who said something bad about Obama being black too, but I could be wrong bout that.
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Nothing racist about it. I simply said there are ignorant people (deficient of knowlege) who go to grave sites of "holy men" or "islamic history" and start their grave worship, like they do back home. And then i mentioned the group/location where this is most common.
 
Well its been a couple of months since i got back and I've been meaning to post here just been busy.

So i guess now is a better time then any , so here goes


Before i went i really did not know what to expect from it, i was getting different opinions from different people about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that, so i kinda just went with it and needless to say i was amazed by the whole thing.

just seeing the Kabah sharif for the first time up close was AMAZING, i remember just standing there in amazement with my gran dad by my side words just can not describe that feeling.

i was mostly every night sat near the Kabah Sharif, did tawaaf when i could. And i remember when it was time to leave Makkah i had tears in eyes but at the same time i was happy as well cause we were going to the Medina Sharif next.

Now the last couple days in Makkah i decided to go and kiss Hajar Aswaad and that on my part was a BIG MISTAKE i should of done it the first day there cause after the crowd got really really BIG and they were all pushing and shoving, which really really made me sad that this was going on in Makkah of all place's i guess i kinda expected some brotherly love lol.

All was not lost when i went to do my third Umrah , i had to go to Aysha Masjid to change into the ihram. I remember this just sitting in Aysha Masjid Making dua right from the heart a bit teary eyed , Asking Allah to give me a chance to kiss Hajar Aswaad and then believe it or not i got my chance 3 times during that day although i had to do some pushing but i got in.

I've also got a ton of pictures that i want to share with you guys, i mean there fancy just pictures i took. So am i allowed to post them up here ???


i remember also at the time i didn't really get on with some people in my group, but eventually i got through it.

And now i really want to go back there and do hajj at some point.
 
MashaAllah, bro, Im glad ur experience went well. I pray you go to Hajj soon inshaAllah
 
I am so happy for you brother! I can't imagine being there, inshallah Allah (saw) will grant me the health and wealth to visit.

I honestly do not know if i'd be more amazed by the multitude of people (i live in a small city in New York so seeing more than a line or two for prayer is unusual) or the Kaaba itself.

I would be so worried the whole time to do something wrong or haraam. I dont think i could live with myself knowing that i did something bad in the two most blessed places on earth.

Either way I'm ranting on. I am so happy for you. Thanks so much for sharing your experience, and i look forward to seeing the pictures.

Jazakallah Khairan
 
Hassan1987 said:
just seeing the Kabah sharif for the first time up close was AMAZING, i remember just standing there in amazement with my gran dad by my side words just can not describe that feeling.
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There were lots of people who told my Parents that the moment you will see the Kaaba first time is very important because whatever you pray,will be accepted.When my Parents came back,i asked them,"So,what did you pray when you seen the Kaaba first time".And my mom told me that there can hardly be a person who can make any prayer other than saying "Forgive me Oh Merciful".My mom said that one cannot define the feeling in words unless you go there and experience it for your self.You just burst into tears and ask forgiveness.
May be some day some one share a different experience :hmm:

Jazakallu Khairan for sharing your expierience.You are indeed lucky to visit the Holy Cities of Makkah and Medinah.Plz do pray for me that i will be the part of that blessed crowd next year,inshallah.
 
Yassouid said:
I am so happy for you brother! I can't imagine being there, inshallah Allah (saw) will grant me the health and wealth to visit.

I honestly do not know if i'd be more amazed by the multitude of people (i live in a small city in New York so seeing more than a line or two for prayer is unusual) or the Kaaba itself.

I would be so worried the whole time to do something wrong or haraam. I dont think i could live with myself knowing that i did something bad in the two most blessed places on earth.

Either way I'm ranting on. I am so happy for you. Thanks so much for sharing your experience, and i look forward to seeing the pictures.

Jazakallah Khairan
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When i was in Makkah on Friday Juma Time, it was absolutely packed, seriously my Jaw was on the floor seeing so many people like that in person for the first time.

sorry guys just tried to post a few pictures but it wouldnt let me cause i need to post a few times lol :-(
 
Hassan1987 said:
sorry guys just tried to post a few pictures but it wouldnt let me cause i need to post a few times lol :-(
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Really enjoyed reading, about your experience, glad it was soo positive, i intend to do hajj next year, this has defo made me more eager to go, i cant wait.
 
You know, when i say first time Kaba, I felt like words are stuck in my mouth and sight on the black covered wall, my feet were freezed and time stopped. It is right, no one can imagine unless he experience these moments himself.
 
zarinekhan said:
- I will be performing the Islamic Pilgrimage and sharing every step with you.
- I can not believe that I have the chance to visit this Holy place.
- It has always been on my mind since I became Islamic 6 years ago and I kind of though it won’t be possible.
- I want this space to be open so I can encourage Islamic to perform Umrah and remove the fear of breaking the bank.

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May Allah except your umraa...and may it be the reason for u to enter Janna....please don't forget to pray for me ....my aunt is going to this Friday tomorrow she is living ...to the city ...Kabul
 

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