"I'm scared of jinn..."

[truemuslim]

humans are the best creations. all the JINNS AND ANGELS were made to bow down to human. thats amazing, subhanallah.

we aint better than angles.......

are we?


:uuh:

 

[Z-Blade]

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I used to be scared of Jinns long time ago, but now it just seems silly to be scared of them since everything happens by Allah's Will anyway :'). La 7awla wala quwwata illa billah (no ability or force without Allah).

we aint better than angles.......

are we?


:uuh:

We can be better than angels if we be really good Muslims as far as I know, since the angels as well as Iblis were told to bow down to Adam (AS). It's because we worship Allah according to the will He has given us, whereas angels do this no matter what - they have no will. So we can be better than angels or lower than animals (i.e. not be Muslim) by our will. And Allah knows best.

May Allah strengthen our Emaan, Ameen!

Wassalam.

 

[truemuslim]

^^^ o...



back to my question... so we are only better than jinn by the look? and someone here just said that jinn and angels are to bow down to us...arent jinn supposed to bow to allah too?...

 

[Z-Blade]

^^^ o...



back to my question... so we are only better than jinn by the look? and someone here just said that jinn and angels are to bow down to us...arent jinn supposed to bow to allah too?...

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Yeah you're right that Jinns are meant to bow down to Allah and they have free will like us. I think Iblis was an exception to this as the way he was serving Allah was like the angels, and Adam (AS) was a prophet and the first human, waAllahu 'Alim.

Here's the relevant part from Tafsir Ibn Kathir:


Honoring Adam when the Angels prostrated before Him

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This Ayah mentions the great honor that Allah granted Adam, and Allah reminded Adam's offspring of this fact. Allah commanded the angels to prostrate before Adam, as this Ayah and many Hadiths testify, such as the Hadith about the intercession that we discussed. There is a Hadith about the supplication of Musa, "O my Lord! Show me Adam who caused us and himself to be thrown out of Paradise.'' When Musa met Adam, he said to him, "Are you Adam whom Allah created with His Own Hands, blew life into and commanded the angels to prostrate before'' Iblis was among Those ordered to prostrate before Adam, although He was not an Angel

When Allah commanded the angels to prostrate before Adam, Iblis was included in this command. Although Iblis was not an angel, he was trying - and pretending - to imitate the angels' behavior and deeds, and this is why he was also included in the command to the angels to prostrate before Adam. Satan was criticized for defying that command, as we will explain with detail, Allah willing, when we mention the Tafsir of Allah's statement,

﴿إِلاَّ إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَ عَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ﴾

(Except Iblis (Satan). He was one of the Jinn; he disobeyed the command of his Lord.) (18:50) Similarly, Muhammad bin Ishaq reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "Before he undertook the path of sin, Iblis was with the angels and was called `Azazil.' He was among the residents of the earth and was one of the most active worshippers and knowledgeable persons among the angels. This fact caused him to be arrogant. Iblis was from a genus called Jinn.''

Wassalam.

 

[truemuslim]

ooooooooh...that answers ma questions..thanks bro

 

[Z-Blade]

ooooooooh...that answers ma questions..thanks bro

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No problem ukhti, any time inshaAllah.

Wassalam.

 

[Ghira]

Never knew that JazakAllahu khair for sharing...Interesting that we are not supposed to be scared of something we cannot see but can see us.

 

[Z-Blade]

Never knew that JazakAllahu khair for sharing...Interesting that we are not supposed to be scared of something we cannot see but can see us.

:salamext:,

Hmmmm, actually, if you think about it bro, why should we be scared of something we can't see? :') It would only be scary when they can do harm to us, which is actually the case :O. But then, we know nothing happens without Allah's Will so we should rely on His Protection and He has given us the means to invoke this need (3 Quls, Ayatul Kursi for example).

Surah 2 (Al-Baqarah):

286.
Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned. "Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us (Jews and Christians); our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Maula (Patron, Supporter and Protector, etc.) and give us victory over the disbelieving people."
لاَ يُكَلِّفُ اللّهُ نَفْسًا إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ رَبَّنَا لاَ تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِن نَّسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِنَا رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لاَ طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَا أَنتَ مَوْلاَنَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ (٢٨٦)​

Wassalam.

 

[Tony]

never need to fear jinn, our covenant with Allah sees to this, so there it is jinn and tonic. It really makes me frustrated with people who go on about jinn possession and black magic, comeon people, you are Muslim or you are not, its black and white for Allahs sake I pray that Muslims give up their fascination with such things, if we put that energy into glorifying our Creators awesome power instead of putting jinn and magic up there we may be getting somewhere inthis life. ALLpower and praise is Allahs, no other can harm or do good for us. if we dont beleive then our torture and punishment begins in the grave

 

[Zico]

Book - "The World of the Jinn and Devils", p. 7
Ibn Abdul Barr said, "The jinn, according to the scholars of the language, are of different types:

1. If one is mentioning the jinn purely of themselves, the are called jinni.*

2.If one is mentioning the jinn that live among mankind, they are called aamar whose plural is amaar.

3.If one is mentioning the ones that antagonize the young, they are called arwaah.

4.If one is mentioning the evil ones that antagonize humans they are called shaitan for the singular [and shayateen for plural].

5.If they cause even more harm and become strong, they are called afreet."**

*Notice the similar sound between jinni and english's "genie". TV and other media have twisted the concept of jinn; however, it is interesting to note its origin is from Islam. "I Dream of Jeannie" is a TV show based around a Genie (jinni, plural of jinn). In this show, Jeannie, the genie, frequently was given a request and the requestor never quite got what was requested as she was always creating unintentional mischief. However we understand that the shaitan among the jinn antagonize humans, not that they are kind beings who accidentally mess up on occasion. Those who seek aid (such as asking for favors or making request) from the jinni will find deception and a twisted type of aid that doesn't really meet the requestor's original request, but that satisfies the shaytaanic jinn's desire for evil.

**An Ifrît (strong) from the jinns said: "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work." [The Noble Qur'an 27:39]


Narration - Reported by al-Tahhaawi in Mushkil al-Athaar, 4/95, and by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, 22/214

Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani said: “The Messenger of Allaah May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said: ‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.” [Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu’l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad]

Source

 

[abu_musab461]

something i've wondered - do jinns know that they are jinns?

Yes they know. So if you asked them "Are you jinn or shaytan?"

They would reply back "Jinn"

And they have religions and cultures just like our selves.

They are Jews, Christians, Sikh, Buddist, Muslim.

They have races and colours/ cultures like Black, white, asian, pakistani, bengali, arab etc. Depending on which country they are from.

 

[abu_musab461]

do they ever look like people?

They have eyes, nose, mouth, face, hands feet, hearts, brains etc...

Some are handsome (the muslim jinns) and some are ugly (the kuffar ones) and some are disgusting (the shayateen and magicians).

 

[abu_musab461]

True have faith in Allah, that is the key, i was scared of Jinn and my fascination for them wanted to know more about them!!

They're so interesting! lol

Good guess, but the key is the "taqwa of Allah" if you fear commiting sins and disobeying Allah and aware He (swt) is Watching you- then the jinns will fear you

 

[abu_musab461]

:salamext:

what happened if a human falls in love with jinn...

cause my friend met a beautiful lady jinn (islamic jinn).

and he met the jinn again in mecca.

Just wondering...

and i know its haram to marry a jinn...

Can anyone explain more on this.

And i heard if the jinn fall in love with a person...then that'll be a problem. Especially if that person doesn't read quran.

There has been debates amongst the scholars about is it possible for jinn to marry human and have relationship and have children.

And the other argument is if its permissible in islam to do the above.

the strongest opinion is that it is possible but not permissible because Allah (saw) says in the Quran "We have created mates from amongst your selves.." (Surah Rum)

Humans are for humans and jinns are for jinns.

Can you imagine you get your jinn wife upset and they she turns invisible and knocks you out? Or possesses you?

Not a good idea after all huh?

I think its best to find a human wife

Allah Knows Best

 

[abu_musab461]

no offence tooken, but you misunderstood me...

I didn't mean that jinn are rare; I meant that the occasion of jinn harming a human is rare.

Allah knows best.

Depends on where you live. Some places (even in UK) are hot spots for jinn activity because of black magic etc... so obviously the amount of people affected will be a lot more.

Allah Knows Best

 

[Tony]

NAHL-16 vs 98-100
98 And when thou recitest the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from Satan the outcast.
99 Lo ! he hath no power over those who believe and put trust in their Lord.
100 His power is only over those who make a friend with him, and those who ascribe partners unto Him (Allah).


There is no one that should be feared more than Allah, if we do not fulfill our covenant with Him then that is truly something to fear. Jinns and black magic is real but its fleeting fear compared to the everlasting hellfire of those who transgress and misplace their fear. Fear Allah and be righteous, dont let Satan trick you into being misled and allowing fear of this world to stop you from setting your eyes on the gates of Jannah. Seek refuge with Allah the Lord of the worlds and only fear Him and His final day. May Allah guide us to be in awe of His absolute power, Ameen.

 

[HopeFul]

JazakAlah, brther Tony said it all, I feel exactly the same way about it..

 

[abu_musab461]

Ok, lets cut this thread short-

Who disbelieves in the existence of jinn and magic, just because you have never seen it?

Then you must automatically disbelieve in the angels and Allah (swt) because you have never seem Him or His angels.

If anyone wants to claim that magic or jinn possession is very very rare- then for them to come to that conclusion i would expect that person to be a qualified raqi (one who does ruqya).

If after doing ruqya for many patients he came to that conclusion then i could believe him, but to say i dont think jinn possession or magic exists or is rare with out doing ruqya your self...

Because really just exposes your own ignorance on the topic and you should really not talk about this feild without certain knowledge.

And if you say "I dont know really scholars have talked about this topic", then again it exposes your ignorance on the topic and at this point you should take heed of your own words...

Allah Knows Best

 

[Tony]

Brother ^^^ no-one is claiming it does not exist, the point is Allah tells us that we should not fear other than His punishment. Even if these things are terrifying they are only from the Shayatin and whosoever puts their trust in Allah has no real need to be scared. Allah is our protector brother, I have witnessed scary and weird stuff but I will NEVER allow jinns or magic to come between me and my all powerful protector. Come on brother ALLAH IS ALL KNOWING AND Lord of the Alamin, ask his refuge, seek help from scholars, whatever is needed but stop being distracted by hocus pocus and superstition, Allah is your protector bro, happy days
Bro Allah indeed knows best and that is why we can trust His Noble Qur'an. Allah is our protector

 

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Why is a 2 year long thread debate still going on?! :muddlehea