Imaams of the Haram'ain - Part VII

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Alhamdudillah for the rain after all that salat al istasqa.... nice video jazakallah:)

am missing the live recitation in majid e haram by sheikh sudais
 
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SubhanAllah..Alhamdulillah for the rain!

You could tell Shaykh Juhany was speading up the Salaah lol Masha'Allah

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Masha'Allah, you could see and hear the lightining and thunder.
 
Mashallah thats so beautful! mashallah u can hear the rain and all!
Jazakallah khair!
 
few highlights of khutbah: ALL ERROR IN TRANSLATION IS FROM MY SIDE...

It was suppposed to be Sheikh Sudais, but Sheikh Talib delivered khutbah...
briefly highlighting khutbah Sheikh Talib mentioned:
Allah is the only being to guide towards goodness
Nabi S.A.W. is the final messenger unto mankind
o mankind adopt the Taqwa of Allah.
we have to hold onto the teachings of the Quran, and we should always speak what is right.
the hereafter is for eternity.We should also fear Allah in our secret time.
we forget the reason which we have been created. Allah did not create us but to worship him.After death we will eventually be resurrected.every atom/deed of good and bad will be weighed on this day. those that sin will regret after seeing the punishment. in the hereafter we will see the results of our actions.
Nabi S.A.W. taught moaz r.a the supplication: O Allah assist me on remembering you and always being thankful to you and to worship you.
The giving of death is in the hands of Allah.So many of us make ibadah but not properly, the wudhoe and salah are not performed properly.
we are duty bound to worship Allah properly. It is the duty of a muslim to live and hope of meeting Allah.We must have sinceraty in our deeds, our ibadah must be done solely for Allah.We should abstain from all innovations in deen.
do not have jealousy towards anyone as this world is insignificant in comparison with akhirah.Always keep in the company of the pious. Sheikh supplicated unto Allah
 
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Wondering if any or all the imams of haramain attended the conference...

"......Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah said yesterday as Muslim scholars led by Saudi Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh endorsed his call for opening a dialogue with people of other faiths at the start of a historic three-day summit at the Royal Al-Safa Palace.
The king started his address with a prayer to Almighty Allah for the determination and strength to take up the Islamic mission of cordial dialogue with other faiths even if the other side is hostile................King Abdullah reminded scholars and thinkers of the purpose of the conference.
?You gathered today to say to the world around us, with confidence, that Allah bestowed upon us,? he said. ?We are the voice of justice and human moral values, and we are the voice of rational and just coexistence and dialogue, the voice of wisdom and admonition........From the vicinity of the Holy Mosque of Makkah, we begin ? with the Will of Allah.........
Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh, the Saudi grand mufti, endorsed the king?s project and said the whole Ummah was looking up to the benevolent king to take the lead and bringing different communities of the world together.
?He has taken this step with good intention and this is the only way of propagating the real values of Islam,? Al-Asheikh said, adding: ?We cannot live in an isolation. We need to cooperate with others to make the most of advancement in all aspects of life.?
The summit has brought together some of the most influential scholars, academics and organization leaders in the Muslim world, who all expressed hope and optimism that this meeting of the minds would help improve relations with people of different religious backgrounds or Islamic schools of thought.
?This conference is a historic opportunity,? said Muslim World League Secretary-General Abdullah Abdulmohsen Al-Turki. ?It brings together leading Islamic scholars and thinkers from across the globe.?
?This conference offers a new channel to strengthen cooperation among Muslims,? said Al-Azhar University Grand Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi. ?It is essential to reduce differences and promote understanding.?
In attendance at the inaugural ceremony were many leading scholars of the Muslim world, including Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi from Qatar, Lebanon?s Mufti Sheikh Muhammad Rasheed Qabbani, Darul Uloom Deoband?s Marghoobur Rahman, Organization of the Islamic Conference Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, Pakistan Jamaat-e-Islami chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed and chief of Indian Jamaat-e-Islami Syed Jalaluddin Umri.
Some 600 Muslim intellectuals and academics are attending the summit to work out the details and parameters of the interfaith dialogue.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=110609&d=5&m=6&y=2008
 
Mr. Abdullah should clean up his own closet before he goes inviting scholars to spread Islam, He's the main cause of the Muslim World's probelms and backwardness, Instead of trying to build bridges between other faiths and invite all these scholars, he should clean up the streets of Makkah, as people beg right in the Haram for money, and this man Invites all these scholars as they dine on expensive dishes. I wonder what Prophet Muhammad would say. As much as I love all the Imams of the haramain, There too scared to be imprisoned or exiled from the Kingdom if they spoke the truth about the House of Saud.
 
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What are you talkin about? The imaams of the Haram'ain have delivered controversial khutbah which got them suspended. They're not fearful of anyone other than Allah. Off the top of my head I know for sure Sheikh Sudais, Sheikh Shuraim, Sheikh Hudhaify, and Sheikh Thubayty have all done so in the last several years. But you can't expect them to be controversial every single week. That's absurd.
 
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What are you talkin about? The imaams of the Haram'ain have delivered controversial khutbah which got them suspended. They're not fearful of anyone other than Allah. Off the top of my head I know for sure Sheikh Sudais, Sheikh Shuraim, Sheikh Hudhaify, and Sheikh Thubayty have all done so in the last several years. But you can't expect them to be controversial every single week. That's absurd.
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What does one or two controversial Khutbah's solve? Okay they got suspendend, big whoop. Where's the courage of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal, how he struggled hard against the leaders. All the outspoken Imams are either exiled or in prison. The Imam's of the Haram live in Lavish homes, and live perfect lives. The Imams of the past, the Khulafah ur Rashideen lived simple lives. The Imams of the Haram are driven around in Bentleys and Rolls Royces while the historic Khalif's, Umar In particular would carry old men on his back to the Mosque. If the prophet came today, he would be dissapointed in all of them, how can the Imam of the Ummah live in luxurious mansions as people beg in front of the Haram for money?

I'm not saying anything wrong, The Imam's of the Haram hold such a place in every Muslim's heart. If one of them were to give a khutbah rallying the Muslim Ummah every one of us would follow. All the leaders of the Ummah today are so soft, thats why the whole Islamic world is Backward
 
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We speak against the Ulaama while we know not what they know. They are aware of the suffering of Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Ahmad, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Qayyim, (Rahimahullah) and the list goes onnn. The Saudi government could've easily imprisoned them, and alhamdulillah they didn't. I am kinda surprised you would actually imply that you want that. If their controversial khutbah did not bring out about any changes according to you, whose fault is that? They still spoke out...and those speeches they gave weren't soft, sweet words. By your logic, Ibn Taymiyyah did not solve anything either by dying in prison, because the leadership's tactics stayed the same. Seriously, come on. :blind:

So what if they live that way? They also do deeds of charity. Sheikh Sudais opened a hospital and library a couple years ago, they feed lotsa people every day, and much more... Their hearts are soft to the Muslims and they do their part. We know so little, and yet we judge so much.

And I was gonna avoid the begging issue, but since you brought it up again... First of all, begging is forbidden in Islam. There are avenues to earn money, so go earn it. And I'm not keen on giving those people money. I had given some money, but I wouldn't knowing what I know now. A sister in Makkah once was tellin us that there are begging organizations... They mutilate these people, even young lil children, and force them to beg. They take 'em in van and drop them of in areas, and whatever money they make through begging, they give 'em a few riyals. If that isn't sick, I don't know what is. Alhamdulillah the Saudis are cracking down on them, and I hope it becomes completely eradicated some day soon!
 
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Let me just add...
Times are changing...People are changing too...You gta live with it...Yeh, the Imams of Haramain may be driving around in top cars and living in luxurious homes but thats cuz Allah has given them the best of this World and he will Inshallah givem them the best of the next World too...And Allah has chosen them to lead the Salat in Haramain so we really can't say much...Also, we also can't compare them to the Sahabah (RA) cuz they lived totally different lives compared to us. :)

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Assalamu Alaykum Warahmatullah!

Well said ukhtees^ :thumbs_up May Allah reward the Imaams with the highest stages of Jannah..Aameen

On a positive note Shaykh Sudays is back! Alhamdulillah, led an awesome Salaatul Maghrib :thumbs_up Masha'Allah!

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What does one or two controversial Khutbah's solve? Okay they got suspendend, big whoop. Where's the courage of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal, how he struggled hard against the leaders. All the outspoken Imams are either exiled or in prison. The Imam's of the Haram live in Lavish homes, and live perfect lives. The Imams of the past, the Khulafah ur Rashideen lived simple lives. The Imams of the Haram are driven around in Bentleys and Rolls Royces while the historic Khalif's, Umar In particular would carry old men on his back to the Mosque. If the prophet came today, he would be dissapointed in all of them, how can the Imam of the Ummah live in luxurious mansions as people beg in front of the Haram for money?
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and what about the cars the other muslims drive and houses we live in?
The deen was naseehah, and part of it is to the common folk. Its no use saying look at them or their leaders, lets look at ourselves. what are we doing for the ummah?

and btw a lot of people that beg around the haram are parts of organised gangs. Those kids are rented for sympathy. Those people arent always poor, but its a business for them.
 
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Awesome recitation by Shaykh Hussayn ibn Abdul Aziz aal As-Shaykh from Surah Ibraheem

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cZbVngl2Hk[/media]

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We speak against the Ulaama while we know not what they know. They are aware of the suffering of Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Ahmad, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Qayyim, (Rahimahullah) and the list goes onnn. The Saudi government could've easily imprisoned them, and alhamdulillah they didn't. I am kinda surprised you would actually imply that you want that. If their controversial khutbah did not bring out about any changes according to you, whose fault is that? They still spoke out...and those speeches they gave weren't soft, sweet words. By your logic, Ibn Taymiyyah did not solve anything either by dying in prison, because the leadership's tactics stayed the same. Seriously, come on. :blind:

So what if they live that way? They also do deeds of charity. Sheikh Sudais opened a hospital and library a couple years ago, they feed lotsa people every day, and much more... Their hearts are soft to the Muslims and they do their part. We know so little, and yet we judge so much.

And I was gonna avoid the begging issue, but since you brought it up again... First of all, begging is forbidden in Islam. There are avenues to earn money, so go earn it. And I'm not keen on giving those people money. I had given some money, but I wouldn't knowing what I know now. A sister in Makkah once was tellin us that there are begging organizations... They mutilate these people, even young lil children, and force them to beg. They take 'em in van and drop them of in areas, and whatever money they make through begging, they give 'em a few riyals. If that isn't sick, I don't know what is. Alhamdulillah the Saudis are cracking down on them, and I hope it becomes completely eradicated some day soon!
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Salam :)

The Imams are the heads of Islam nowadays, they are our guidance during these tough times. I have nothing held against the Imams, I love them dearly. However, I find it a bit sad that These Big Imams live lavish lives and have lavish dinners while the Muslim Ummah is in Chaos. Thank you for clearing up the begging issue. May Allah Increase us in Knoweledge, However at these current times, The Imams should pressure the King into Cutting Ties with Kuffar Nations that destroy Muslim lands. The Imams have great Influence over what goes on in the Kingdom, and to a greater Extent, the Muslim World. I'm not saying they don't do great things, they do, May Allah reward them, But They also need to stand firm against the enemies of Islam and they are the leaders of the deen, even if that means standing firm against King Abdullah, whatever the outcome. I don't mean to be critical over the Shuyookh, as they all mean dearly to us. And Allah Knows Best
 
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