Imams of the Haramains - Part II

[Lateralus63]

if there was a problem the admin would of said somthing
i know bro you are write too....OFF TOPIC NOW

This is an ISLAMIC forum which abides by the ethics of islam, the moderator himself posted a hadith which says "speak a good word or stay silent"

So tell me brown clown. Whats the benefit of this topic? If me and bro abdul made 35 pages of posts on jennifer lopez what would you say to us?

This whole thread is a waste of time and should be shut down. Period.

 

[Z]

Asalamu Alaikum

Maybe the admin doesn't want to hurt your poor lost souls? I think you'll take it as an insult personally if this topic was closed, hence why you can't avoid it for not even a mere 5 hours.

Why must you post about what's going in Makkah each time something happens?

 

[Lateralus63]

i know bro you are write too.:

If you know im right please at least take what i say into consideration in your actions.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

I agree, some posts are rather unbeneficial, but you fail to realize that we are only saying who is leading and stuff like that. We look upon them as pious muslims IN the 21st century, who gaurd themselves from eveil, we are tring to be the same, follow thrir example , and learn Islam by watching how they are. We listen to their Quran recitation and discuss it, true the #1 fan thing was just a waste, but i dont think the others are. We are speaking good words by discussing our Shaykhs and looking at how young they have already have such great knowledge Mashallah.

CAn you prove my points wrong? I dont think so.

whats rong with longing for Makkah and Madinah? Arent they our holiest sites? So what is wrong if we wish to say i want to be there, and i love this Imam, because of his piety and his recitation?

Can you answer that?

And lets get this straight:

We Worship NONE but Allah and we will never even come close to holding the Imams anywhere near sumpremity.

We arent just discusing any garbage, this is a good topic, and we are not only posting here, we are also around the Forum as well, this topic is for our love for the Quran and how these Imams recite it. If you look back at the very begining, we have so many posts on their recitation and etc.

 

[Lateralus63]

CAn you prove my points wrong?

Yes quite simply i can, and i will.

We look upon them as pious muslims IN the 21st century, who gaurd themselves from eveil, we are tring to be the same, follow thrir example , and learn Islam by watching how they are. We listen to their Quran recitation and discuss it, true the #1 fan thing was just a waste, but i dont think the others are. We are speaking good words by discussing our Shaykhs and looking at how young they have already have such great knowledge Mashallah.

Point 1 ) You are freemixing boys and girls in chat. Prove that wrong.

I agree, some posts are rather unbeneficial,

Point 2 ) Something with a little bit of bad in it, cannot possibly be claimed to be virtous, islam has no "unbeneficiality" in it. So, how can you mix the two? How can you go on to say, "i am talking good" and "i agree, there are bad talk here". I dont think so.

whats rong with longing for Makkah and Madinah? Arent they are holiest sites? So what is wrong if we wish to say i want to be there, and i love this Imam, because of his piety and his recitation?

Can you answer that?

Yes quite simply again, a humble man with haya is humble because he doesnt want a big head and to be praised. You are doing exactly the opposite, praising someone particularly for THEIR VOICE isnt exactly humble is it?

Now my friend. Answer my points.

1) freemixing in free chit chat.
2) Spending 34 pages and more on imam's piety rather than spending at least 10 pages on islam itself.
3) Wasting time by making posts such as "lol" or " "

Can you answer that?

 

[Lateralus63]

We arent just discusing any garbage, this is a good topic, and we are not only posting here, we are also around the Forum as well, this topic is for our love for the Quran and how these Imams recite it. If you look back at the very begining, we have so many posts on their recitation and etc.

Would you talk the same way in REAL LIFE to a brother or sister?

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Now my friend. Answer my points.

1) freemixing in free chit chat.
2) Spending 34 pages and more on imam's piety rather than spending at least 10 pages on islam itself.
3) Wasting time by making posts such as "lol" or " "

Can you answer that?

1) I wudnt call this free chit-chat, it may be in your perspective since you dont care about the imams, but to us who care about these Imams, we call this talking about them.

Freemixing? to a point yes, but not any haram free mixing. Our talks are limited to the Imams and nothing further.


2)As i said before, we do have beneficial posts, topics in the Islam section tend to be questions or articles, so the discussion goes on for a while and then stops. We see the Imams everyda and watch them lead Salah.

The sisters should not keep their pics, but the brothers on this thread can.


3)Not many, only few and at appropriate times, And Inshallah we will take care as not to do that in the Future.

Would you talk the same way in REAL LIFE to a brother or sister?

First of all what way are you talking about?

Second we (brothers) would discuss this in real life. We talk to the sisters on the forum only, because we are not looking at them or doing anything Haram, and our talks are limited to the Imams.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Point 2 ) Something with a little bit of bad in it, cannot possibly be claimed to be virtous, islam has no "unbeneficiality" in it. So, how can you mix the two? How can you go on to say, "i am talking good" and "i agree, there are bad talk here". I dont think so.

The unbeneficial talks were the whose the #1 fan stuff, and that stopped long ago in the Part 1.

Yes quite simply again, a humble man with haya is humble because he doesnt want a big head and to be praised. You are doing exactly the opposite, praising someone particularly for THEIR VOICE isnt exactly humble is it?

And what is their Voice reciting? Isnt it the Quran, and/or, their Jummah Khutbahs?

btw, many people can improve their Quran recitation skills by listening to them

 

[ABDULLAH SAOOD]

Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmatullah-hey-wabarakatu

Allhumdolillah I agree with everyone's view and I aint gonna go into lengthy debate...........all I am going to say is that I will no longer be posting in this thread and if anyone wants me to share my experiences in Mecca/Medina the Imams etc then you can PM and provide me with an e-mail address (from which I will create a circulation list) and I will e-mail information on my return to Saudi (an update like every few weeks).

May allah swt unite us all.

Wassalam
Br ABDULLAH

 

[Lateralus63]

1) I wudnt call this free chit-chat, it may be in your perspective since you dont care about the imams, but to us who care about these Imams, we call this talking about them.

The methodology of this thread is quite time wasting. As i had said earlier. If i opened a topic discussing a particular person. Onwards for 35 pages. That is simply, idolisation. No matter how pious or good a person might be, when you talk about them, for 35 pages, that is simply,. GOSSIP. Thats all it is, just because its about a particular imam in makkah doesnt change the fact its GOSSIP. Its gossip, and will always remain that, no matter who it is.

Let me tell you what you are trying to do, you are attempting to justify the gossip of this thread by placing it within the context of the imams of the haramains. Im sorry but, if the fundamental of something is bad and not beneficial. nothing can justify it. Prove that wrong.

So tell me, why can, all of you, have a 35 page discussion, on imams of the haramain, but cannot make a 35 page discussion on taqwa? or patience? or any other islamic issue? I tell you why, because you are so wrapped up in your discussion of an imam of makkah that people cannot care less to spend effort on discussing islam itself. Thats irony for you.

so the discussion goes on for a while and then stops. We see the Imams everyda and watch them lead Salah.

We live islam everyday of your life. Yet we cannot talk about it for more than 35 pages. Pity.

First of all what way are you talking about?

All the text that has been typed, can you gossip like that to someone else? Freemixing + gossip = ?

 

[Lateralus63]

Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmatullah-hey-wabarakatu

Allhumdolillah I agree with everyone's view and I aint gonna go into lengthy debate...........all I am going to say is that I will no longer be posting in this thread

Good choice bro.

 

[ABDULLAH SAOOD]

Assalamo-alaikum-warahmatullah-hey-wabrakatu

Good choice bro.

Hey bro let me just say one thing I still have a lot of love for the Imams of the Haramain Sharafain and a lot of respect for them. I will still talk about them (to my friends etc) but not on here - I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings.

If anyone wants to contact me they can PM me.

Wassalam
Br ABDULLAH

 

[Lateralus63]

Assalamo-alaikum-warahmatullah-hey-wabrakatu



Hey bro let me just say one thing I still have a lot of love for the Imams of the Haramain Sharafain and a lot of respect for them. I will still talk about them (to my friends etc) but not on here - I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings.

If anyone wants to contact me they can PM me.

Wassalam
Br ABDULLAH

understood you perfectly.

One thing i want to get straight here. I dont hate the imams of the haramins, so dont jump to that conclusion. Its just, the way people talk about them on this thread, is not much different to how fans would talk about their actors or idols.

 

[A7med]

OK SORRY BRO's PLZ FORGIVE ME :-[
OFF TOPICS HAVE STOPED!!!

 

[Lateralus63]

OK SORRY BRO's PLZ FORGIVE ME :-[

Dont take it so badly bro, i forgive you but its not like you have done anything to me. The reason why i am posting back in this thread to expose the "posts" in this thread which are merely synonymous to Gossip and Chat.

Im sure the mods think this place is a waste of time as well.

 

[A7med]

anyway...dose anyone have some sort of biography on Sudias or Shuraim??

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Assalamo-alaikum-warahmatullah-hey-wabrakatu



Hey bro let me just say one thing I still have a lot of love for the Imams of the Haramain Sharafain and a lot of respect for them. I will still talk about them (to my friends etc) but not on here - I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings.

If anyone wants to contact me they can PM me.

Wassalam
Br ABDULLAH

i dont think this is right. Dont leave, we can still discuss them.

AS for 35 pages, you can think what u like but Allah knows our tue intention and that is enough for us.

I will still continue posting here if not as much, but its up to u what u think and i will only say, Allah knows my true intention and thats that. If you dont like it we will lower our posts here Inshallah, but i ask the mods to NOT close this topic.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

anyway...dose anyone have some sort of biography on Sudias or Shuraim??

look in part 1, first few pages

 

[Lateralus63]

AS for 35 pages, you can think what u like but Allah knows our tue intention and that is enough for us.

I will still continue posting here if not as much, but its up to u what u think and i will only say, Allah knows my true intention and thats that. If you dont like it we will lower our posts here Inshallah, but i ask the mods to NOT close this topic.

If that is the best you can do to disprove my arguements, that is a shame. Its a little obvious this thread is doing no good.

 

[S_87]

to the question on sheikh hudhaifi..hes 50 sumthing i think