Immigrants / refugees

[sister herb]

Humanism is that what Europeans claim to be an experts but what is a missing feature from the others, especially Muslims - as some Europeans believe.

^o)

 

[Abz2000]

seek the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and believe the truth, it will be better for you.

the earth cannot be round and flat at the same time when you look at it in whole, although it can appear flat as you look around you at greenwich park.

and no matter how much we know or come to believe, God always knows best so let's acknowledge Him and submit to and obey Him totally.

 

[Zafran]

wot on earth?
the way of life (Islam) that Allah has revealed is prescribed upon all of mankind, i know curry is halal and so is halal shepherd's pie.
(you really sound like someone standing in front of a restaurant and pleading "sar, i gib u haf price carry with firi ishtartar, please, y u no like me"?
There are Muslims from all races and backgrounds and the media is making you forget that by the constant display of immigrants combined with the term Islam. psychological manipulation, generalization.

when the Prophet pbuh proclaimed the message in Makkah, the majority of people around him were Quraish tribe, Makkan Arabs.....though at the time they did have many slaves who were very quick to accept the truth since the Aristocratic pagan Meccan way of life wasn't working for them and had lost it's magical spell over their psyches.

Ironically the Quraishis also tried to portray Islam as a way of life appealing to slaves, the weak and foolish, (the term sabee was adopted despite all reverts clarifying that they had submitted to Allah)
that facade disappeared and turned to bitter hatred when the sons and daughters from the most well known clans in Makkah began to accept the truth (they were realising that the Prophet pbuh was calling them to the truth and that alcoholism, nights of gambling with dice, sexual promiscuity like cats and dogs etc were not noble traits but humiliation.
Muslims are brothers and sisters in faith - regardless of race or wealth.
The way of life which Allah has revealed is not a false matrix system that survives off of self deception and false constructs.

salaam

You need to see what people are actually saying. Immigration - like the prophet Muhammad pbuh doing hijra from Mecca to medina. Or the prophet sending some of the companions to a Christian ruler in Abyssinia. I'm not sure if your from the UK but this discussion about immigration is a very hot topic. You need to focus on the thread rather then making general posts.

 

[Zafran]

^^ I didn´t say anything about how the British follow in Christian teachings. More I wondered why they did not follow them when it comes to refugees or to the immigrants. Maybe some are feeling that their fellowmen are only other Christians or other British.

An image what comes to my mind in this discussion is one cartoon of Charlie Hebdo, where a man is walking on the water and next to the Muslim child sinks. Of my mind it describes some European´s arrogance and distorted view of their own humanity. Or actually a lack of humanity.

One could say the same thing about The rich arab states like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar. Non of them have done anything serious for the Syrian refugee crisis. Right now the Saudis are creating another crisis in Yemen.

Its the poor Muslim countries that have actually taken in refugees like Lebanon and Jordan. Turkey being the only rich country that has also helped them.

Furthermore the Germans have done a lot by taking in refugees as well. I'm sure the Scandinavian countries will follow.

 

[Abz2000]

^^ wa'alaikumussalam,the Prophet pbuh said "Lakum al Jannah" when the Ansaar asked what they would get in return for believing in Allah and assisting him, despite the fact that their former alliances with other powerful tribes would be affected, he certainly didn't attempt to entice them with popadoms or shwarma.

it becomes a hot topic when they engineer a hot topic, just as Muslims, patriotism, taliban, afghanistan etc were a hot topic when bush knocked down the twin towers.anyways, johnny english's accusations of Muslims despite the direct fault of the uk government is reminding me of the speech of abdullah ibn ubayy (may Allah curse him) whose head Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) wanted to cut off even though ibn ubayy hadn't caused the Muslims harm in Makkah and engineered a crisis.

the british media is playing mind games with you in league with the government - i stopped watching the tv totally when i noticed how they theatrically had topics acted out if they couldn't find sometging to compare their news talking points with.remember when ibn ubayy was talking about feeding a dog until it's fat and feeds off of you?
and the honourable ones vs the weak and despised ones?

Allah clearly confirmed that honour, power and glory belong to Allah, His messenger and the believers and that the hypocrites were clueless.

7 – You wont believe that Ibn Ubayy even after what he did at Uhud was yet being allowed to accompany muslims on expeditions!!!
Once it happened on an expedition that two muslims fell into a fight - one of Ghifar tribe {Ally of Quraysh ie one tribe of Mecca from even before Islam} and the other of Juhayma tribe {Ally of Khazraj i.e. one tribe of medina to which Ibn Ubayy belonged from even before Islam} and both of them tried to involve their allies and swords got drawn between companions of the prophet pbuh.
However other sahabas of better understanding intervened and stopped the blood-bath from happening.

Ibn Ubayy was not responsible for this fight but he didn’t leave the opportunity to rally opinion against "Meccans" and started to plot to overthrow the “Meccan rule” being lead by Prophet.

We get one of his statements on this that reveals his plotting, Ibn Ubayy said to sahabas belonging to his tribe
“HAVE THEY {emigrant Quraysh/Meccans} GONE SO FAR AS THIS?
THEY SEEK TO TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER US {in our land over us}!! THEY CROWD US OUT IN OUR OWN COUNTRY AND NOTHING WILL FIT US AND THESE RAGS OF QURAYSH {just to remind prophet was a Quraysh}
BUT THE OLD SAYING GOES ‘FEED FAT YOUR DOG AND IT WILL FEED ON YOU’ {imagine whom he was calling a dog}!!!
BY GOD WHEN WE RETURN TO MEDINA THE HIGHER AND THE MIGHTIER OF US WILL DRIVE OUT THE LOWER AND WEAKER!”

Those who listened to him didn’t report this to prophet, but only two beings – one a young boy and other Allah himself!!!

First the young boy came and reported this to prophet and listening to this prophet got very angry, Umar (ra) said that he will go and behead him and the Prophet (pbuh) didn’t give him the permission to, he refused to let him do so and Umar followed the command!!!
When Ibn Ubayy got to know that prophet has come to know of what he said, he went to prophet and swore he never said anything even close to it….but there is still
Allah’s witness that was about to come on the matter and expose the traitor hypocrite, the enemy of Islam.

16.*"So go forth, both of you, to Pharaoh, and say: 'We have been sent by the Lord and Cherisher of the worlds;
17.*"'Send thou with us the Children of Israel.'"

18.*(Pharaoh) said: "Did we not cherish thee as a child among us, and didst thou not stay in our midst many years of thy life?19.*"And thou didst a deed of thine which (thou knowest) thou didst, and thou art of the ungrateful!"

20.*Moses said: "I did it then, when I was in error.
21.*"So I fled from you (all) when I feared you; but my Lord has (since) invested me with judgment (and wisdom) and appointed me as one of the messengers.

22.*"And this is the favour with which thou dost reproach me,- that thou hast enslaved the Children of Israel!"

23.*Pharaoh said: "And what is the 'Lord and Cherisher of the worlds'?"

Quran Chapter 26

 

[Ahmed2014]

Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's etc., . . . . . . Did you forget?

That is St. Paul in the bible speaking, this holds little merit to Jesus peace be upon him or to Muslims. We do not seperate our religion from our life .

 

[JohnnyEnglish]

The hypocrites were clueless.

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