IMO the ancient generations from pre-written history had better TECHNOLOGY then US

[Mountains]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/smithsonian-giant-skeletons/

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Yeah. No! I have seen that website and doing the usual counter measure but it is to late the documents have been published. That train left for them to counter this

 

[*charisma*]

"World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction."

Look, it's clear you are falling for fake headlines. The only "evidence" you have is not credible. You are really wasting your time.

All in all, what is the point of this thread?

 

[Mountains]

"World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction."

Look, it's clear you are falling for fake headlines. The only "evidence" you have is not credible. You are really wasting your time.

All in all, what is the point of this thread?

No. Try to dig deeper you will find your answers the accusations and court case was real. As I mentioned previously they are trying to excesses some muscle and the aggressive counter measure has entered but this one is to late but still they are doing a heck of a job creating confusion and the benefit of the doubt but it is not going anywhere

 

[*charisma*]

No. Try to dig deeper you will find your answers the accusations and court case was real. As I mentioned previously they are trying to excesses some muscle and the aggressive counter measure has entered but this one is to late but still they are doing a heck of a job creating confusion and the benefit of the doubt but it is not going anywhere

Why dig deeper into a satirical site??
Who are they creating doubt for? Surely not me, and not other muslims either.

The way I see it is that there are archeologists and historians more passionate about these topics than you are who would bring credibility and professionalism. I'd rather hear from them.

None of your sources are credible, and therefore your line of thinking is not credible.

Again, what is the point of this thread?

 

[Mountains]

Why dig deeper into a satirical site??
Who are they creating doubt for? Surely not me, and not other muslims either.

The way I see it is that there are archeologists and historians more passionate about these topics than you are who would bring credibility and professionalism. I'd rather hear from them.

None of your sources are credible, and therefore your line of thinking is not credible.

Again, what is the point of this thread?

It is not only on that website and you have fallen victim for the spin and the counter measure. That website is not the true source either.

It is not difficult to find evidence for the current popularity of the notion that an ancient "race" of giants once populated prehistoric North America. Internet sites making that claim are numerous, as are books on the topic And there is new programs based on whether giants really existed. Giants are a "thing" now.

The belief in ancient North American giants is based in part on the numerous accounts of large skeletons being unearthed that can be found in newspapers and county histories from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. These accounts are "real" (in that they exist - they were written), and there are a lot of them. And, therefore, they deserve an explanation. I've spent some time looking at them.

If I were to post all the newspaper and recorded history of large skeletons being found only in the US this thread could reach 10.000+ posts. There has been countless amount of report about this on local newspapers and nation wide newspapers? But have you ever asked yourself this question what happened to them? What happened to the said skeletons that were reported?

1. You need to ask yourself this question? How can the same story be echoed 10.000 times by different people since 1800s to early 20th century? On local town level to higher up? Which means it could never have been a lie but someone is working behind the scene to cover that up? It is basically the US government since the 1800s because the elite have an alliance with Iblees and his children literally. The Elite were members of secret societies and they control the country since the beginning.

Does this look like a satire to you?

 

[keiv]

Gog and Magog is only a sign but not the end of the world itself hence why Gog and magog serve as a ''reset'' tool for mankind they will reset everything and what comes after them will be a completeley new world altogether. New dawn of mankind.

Islam will vanish completely by default decades after Isa banu Maryam but it won't be the end of the world humans will continue to exist for probably another few thousands of years which means our technology will be lost to these post-Gog and magog era but they will be able to see some of our remaining books and by that I mean these that age well. New languages will emerge and nations, borders etc etc and also new mixed mulatto races probably rises from some corners while in others same colors. They will go thru the natural process of reaching technologically advanced civilization like ours which could take them few thousand years or centuries depending on how quick their population numbers rise up again.

One thing to note regarding Islam is that everything has a time limit including religions. The prophet said Islam's era will not exceed 1500 years meaning it can reach upto 1599 years but not cross 1600 years. We have approx left 150-160 years

Regarding people living for thousands of years after the major signs have come, do you have a source for that? According to what we know, the 10 major signs will come in short successions and based on all the commentaries I've read and heard, your statement does not seem to fit in with what we're told, particularly the fire that gathers all of humanity to their "assembly".

 

[Ümit]

It is not only on that website and you have fallen victim for the spin and the counter measure. That website is not the true source either.

It is not difficult to find evidence for the current popularity of the notion that an ancient "race" of giants once populated prehistoric North America. Internet sites making that claim are numerous, as are books on the topic And there is new programs based on whether giants really existed. Giants are a "thing" now.

The belief in ancient North American giants is based in part on the numerous accounts of large skeletons being unearthed that can be found in newspapers and county histories from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. These accounts are "real" (in that they exist - they were written), and there are a lot of them. And, therefore, they deserve an explanation. I've spent some time looking at them.

If I were to post all the newspaper and recorded history of large skeletons being found only in the US this thread could reach 10.000+ posts. There has been countless amount of report about this on local newspapers and nation wide newspapers? But have you ever asked yourself this question what happened to them? What happened to the said skeletons that were reported?

1. You need to ask yourself this question? How can the same story be echoed 10.000 times by different people since 1800s to early 20th century? On local town level to higher up? Which means it could never have been a lie but someone is working behind the scene to cover that up? It is basically the US government since the 1800s because the elite have an alliance with Iblees and his children literally. The Elite were members of secret societies and they control the country since the beginning.

Does this look like a satire to you?

İ do not want to look for it but do you know how many similar videos you can find about bigfoot or the Lochness monster or UFO's?
Do you think they are real too?

Your other thread about expanding Earth was also a huge faiure.
Again...spreading misinformation is haraam...you should refrain from it.

 

[Mountains]

İ do not want to look for it but do you know how many similar videos you can find about bigfoot or the Lochness monster or UFO's?
Do you think they are real too?

Your other thread about expanding Earth was also a huge faiure.
Again...spreading misinformation is haraam...you should refrain from it.

Coming from the guy who is defending evolution theory on an Islamic forum.

If you believe in that why even bother labelling yourself a muslim let alone correcting anyone.

Your words is void here and invalid. search for the right forums where you will find your kin for you will not find with me an ounce of hair that believes in evolution theory or even willing to talk to someone who does that it is kindergarten stuff. Go to the right platforms don't waste my time or yours.

 

[Mountains]

Regarding people living for thousands of years after the major signs have come, do you have a source for that? According to what we know, the 10 major signs will come in short successions and based on all the commentaries I've read and heard, your statement does not seem to fit in with what we're told, particularly the fire that gathers all of humanity to their "assembly".

Life will exist for a long time post Isa Binu Maryam until the people will forget everything, Medina will be abandoned as a city and animals will start to grass there and people will forget why the Kaaba is even there or what purpose it has and then obviously it will get destroyed because they don't know the value it has they will simply forget. Life will continue until the worst civilization will rise up who will fornicate on open streets and then the beast will emerge and after his emergance the sun will come from the west meaning the earth's rotation will go opposite direction.

We can assume that will take long time post Isa but according to scientists it will take upto thousand or 2 thousand years when the sun starts to rotate the opposite direction but that is only experts opinion no religious context so we can reject that opinion.

But only reading the hadiths regarding it you can envision that it will take long time for people to forget everything about Allah and religion plus cities like Medina being abandoned and grass growing there because it is a desert currently and it will become green again also the prophet said that Arabia will become green again and that could take 2-3 thousand years or little less then that only Allah knows.

the Hadith on Medina turning into ghost city, Arabia turning green, people forgetting etc etc you can search them up.

The fire will gather people after the destruction begins which means the sun has appeared from the west at that point but there is alot of prelude hadith mentioned while the one you specifically mentioned is one of the final stages of mankind's end while the once I touched upon are the prelude events before the sun appears from the west

 

[Ümit]

Coming from the guy who is defending evolution theory on an Islamic forum.

If you believe in that why even bother labelling yourself a muslim let alone correcting anyone.

Your words is void here and invalid. search for the right forums where you will find your kin for you will not find with me an ounce of hair that believes in evolution theory or even willing to talk to someone who does that it is kindergarten stuff. Go to the right platforms don't waste my time or yours.

Before you attack me personally, you should read my post carefully.
Nowhere did I say I believe in evolution.
I somehow knew you would read it with half your attention and get all triggered by the words "evolution" and "best explanation we have"

now, what I DID say, and pay attention this time:
science is limited, we do not know everything. It is just a tool to explain the world we live in, in a way that is logical and provable.
Since we know very little about the world, science hardly scratches the surface of the absolute truth.

But even in this case, it is very usefull because it helps us develop.

Now, of course science will never be ripe enough to prove the existence of Allah. If that were possible, then coming to this world for trial would be useless. I don't even thing science will ever be so ripe to prove how Allah exactly created us.

So far, we only came up with a theory called "evolution"...it may be right, it may be wrong...it is not a matter of believing in it or not...it is just a possibility as it may have took place.
Allah may have used it as a tool or not...
Theories can be wrong...that is OK. When a theory is proven wrong, then it just gets replaced by a better one.
That is how we learn and develop.

So again...I do not believe in evolution...I just support the scientific method if you understand what I'm saying.

But even IF I DID, that still does not justify your actions to spread misinformation, or do you think you have a strong case when Allah asks you "Didn't you know that it was wrong to spread those lies?" and your answer will be "Yeah but Ümit believes in evolution!"

I am sorry for being so hard on you, but you should really stop with those conspiracy theories...it really is not good for you.

 

[Mountains]

Before you attack me personally, you should read my post carefully.
Nowhere did I say I believe in evolution.
I somehow knew you would read it with half your attention and get all triggered by the words "evolution" and "best explanation we have"

now, what I DID say, and pay attention this time:
science is limited, we do not know everything. It is just a tool to explain the world we live in, in a way that is logical and provable.
Since we know very little about the world, science hardly scratches the surface of the absolute truth.

But even in this case, it is very usefull because it helps us develop.

Now, of course science will never be ripe enough to prove the existence of Allah. If that were possible, then coming to this world for trial would be useless. I don't even thing science will ever be so ripe to prove how Allah exactly created us.

So far, we only came up with a theory called "evolution"...it may be right, it may be wrong...it is not a matter of believing in it or not...it is just a possibility as it may have took place.
Allah may have used it as a tool or not...
Theories can be wrong...that is OK. When a theory is proven wrong, then it just gets replaced by a better one.
That is how we learn and develop.

So again...I do not believe in evolution...I just support the scientific method if you understand what I'm saying.

But even IF I DID, that still does not justify your actions to spread misinformation, or do you think you have a strong case when Allah asks you "Didn't you know that it was wrong to spread those lies?" and your answer will be "Yeah but Ümit believes in evolution!"

I am sorry for being so hard on you, but you should really stop with those conspiracy theories...it really is not good for you.

What is wrong with you? You are speaking in different tongues first you said that is not what I said then proceeded again saying it is the best we have and then even going further to say it may be right or wrong. First saying evolution theory is the best we have then proceeded to giving it benefit of the doubt? What in the world is wrong with you mann? This is mess!

Got outta here with that kindergarten stuff. A child won't even believe in that and I rejected that logic when I was a mere child because obviously being from the western world myself I was introduced to that filth but I rejected it as a child not even as grown up because I knew better.

Don't even speak about god with me. You derailed whatever credibility you had when you chose to publically defend evolution theory.

If you wanna preach evolution theory this is definitely wrong forum for you because you won't find supporters here amongst these who believe in Allah and the last day. So please don't hide yourself amongst us and seek other areas and find your kin. Why you even here on this forum? Why you even mingling with muslims?

Don't quote me anymore I am done with you and your filth. I don't got time debating with someone who believes in evolution theory and this thread was dedicated to my muslim brothers and sister of Islam it was never meant for public consumption of people with different creed because their knowledge of history and understanding is limited but best access to knowledge is via Allah and the prophet himself but they don't believe hence why they are in the dark and don't know about alot of valuable informations.

I had a suspicion from the beginning that you were defender of evolution theory but guess what you finally came clean. This thread was dedicated to these Allah has chosen for al-Islam the purified Individuals

 

[Ümit]

What is wrong with you? You are speaking in different tongues first you said that is not what I said then proceeded again saying it is the best we have and then even going further to say it may be right or wrong. First saying evolution theory is the best we have then proceeded to giving it benefit of the doubt? What in the world is wrong with you mann? This is mess!

Got outta here with that kindergarten stuff. A child won't even believe in that and I rejected that logic when I was a mere child because obviously being from the western world myself I was introduced to that filth but I rejected it as a child not even as grown up because I knew better.

Don't even speak about god with me. You derailed whatever credibility you had when you chose to publically defend evolution theory.

If you wanna preach evolution theory this is definitely wrong forum for you because you won't find supporters here amongst these who believe in Allah and the last day. So please don't hide yourself amongst us and seek other areas and find your kin. Why you even here on this forum? Why you even mingling with muslims?

Don't quote me anymore I am done with you and your filth. I don't got time debating with someone who believes in evolution theory and this thread was dedicated to my muslim brothers and sister of Islam it was never meant for public consumption of people with different creed because their knowledge of history and understanding is limited but best access to knowledge is via Allah and the prophet himself but they don't believe hence why they are in the dark and don't know about alot of valuable informations.

I had a suspicion from the beginning that you were defender of evolution theory but guess what you finally came clean. This thread was dedicated to these Allah has chosen for al-Islam the purify Individuals

Ok brother, no need to get rude...I won't waste your precious time then. Just nevermind OK?
Good luck with your case.

Ve aleykum selam.

 

[Mountains]

Ok brother, no need to get rude...I won't waste your precious time then. Just nevermind OK?
Good luck with your case.

Ve aleykum selam.

Allah says: Lā ’ikrāha fi d-dīn(i) meaning There is no compulsion in religion.

Find yourself in life as you may know there is no compulsion in religion. everything is free will may he guide you to the right path and Good luck with your journey.

Wa alaykum

 

[*charisma*]

It is not difficult to find evidence for the current popularity of the notion that an ancient "race" of giants once populated prehistoric North America. Internet sites making that claim are numerous, as are books on the topic And there is new programs based on whether giants really existed. Giants are a "thing" now.

The belief in ancient North American giants is based in part on the numerous accounts of large skeletons being unearthed that can be found in newspapers and county histories from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. These accounts are "real" (in that they exist - they were written), and there are a lot of them. And, therefore, they deserve an explanation. I've spent some time looking at them.

Then maybe you should've posted those instead. Weak evidence is not helpful.

Therefore:

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