In the Wake of Recent Violent Attacks: How Do We Respond?

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^^ I agree brother - our duty is only to bring the truth about the teachings of Islam to light.

In doing so, we do not need to be apologetic for being muslim.
And certainly, we do not need to neglect the teachings of Islam (e.g. by attending the funerals of disbelievers).

But we can show empathy where it is due.

We may not be able to change the way the world reacts to the loss of muslim lives.
But we can work on how we react to the loss of every life - whether muslim or non-muslim - we should be saddened by these types of senseless killings (more so, when the name of Islam is incorrectly associated with these crimes).
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Thank you for making that final point. I totally agree, any form of killing innocents or killing beyond the correct means of the law is wrong, the religion of the victim is irrelevant. What's worse is when the name of our beautiful religion is dragged through the mud by these limited individuals. Those two young men wasted a potential life filled with beauty and hope...for what? A few newspaper headlines and EDL riots?

The biggest crooks are those involved behind closed doors.
 
Thank you all for insights. They are appreciated.
A poster mentioned earlier about apologizing. That made me raise an eyebrow, too. I see no reason apologies are necessary. Condemnation and clarification, yes.
Born Believer does agree that "getting the real Islam out there" is important.

I would like to see people of faith flock to support support each other in these kinds of situations instead of all the table turning responses and rift enhancing behavior. Keep in mind, I am not directing this at anyone here, but we all see it a lot when these horrendous acts occur.
 
Well said.

A question: Is it haram to pray for the victim's family at this time?

I will pray for them. I will also pray for the innocent UK Muslims feeling aggression from extremist groups right now. I will even pray that God blesses the EDL with wisdom, peace and acceptance.
 
~Zaria~ said:
And certainly, we do not need to neglect the teachings of Islam (e.g. by attending the funerals of disbelievers).
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Is that true? That you couldn't attend the funeral of a non-believer? I mean, so if I were to die, my muslim friends wouldn't be permitted to come to my funeral?
 
GodIsAll said:
Well said.

A question: Is it haram to pray for the victim's family at this time?

I will pray for them. I will also pray for the innocent UK Muslims feeling aggression from extremist groups right now. I will even pray that God blesses the EDL with wisdom, peace and acceptance.
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I think the question was is it ok to pray for the dead soldier. Which it is not.

Praying for non-believers is only relevant if you are praying for them to be guided to Islam. We can't offer them prayer the same way we offer prayers for our true loved ones, fellow Muslims.
 
GodIsAll said:
I will pray for them. I will also pray for the innocent UK Muslims feeling aggression from extremist groups right now. I will even pray that God blesses the EDL with wisdom, peace and acceptance.
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GodIsAll, I cannot rep you right now ... but you really are somebody quite special!
Will a bunch of flowers do?
 
No matter how many times people apologize or condemn anything that goes against the religion its never good enough anyways. How many times have Muslims spoken out against such attacks and how many times do you continue to hear people saying we need more Muslims to speak out and apologize for such things as if its never been done before. When there's a new story about how a "Muslim terrorist" did such and such, the same thing will happen again where people will ask all Muslims to stand up and condemn/apologize for what happened. Rinse and repeat as they say..

I don't care anymore. People are even saying that the tweets from the other thread were done in Photoshop just so they can have an excuse yet you can easily visit their page and see remnants of those tweets. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of patience to deal with those types of people.
 
Vito, I understand that it must wear you down. But if you are called to show people the true Islam, don't you have to continue to speak out?
Peace, brother :)
 
There's been a great deal of talk about not wanting to 'apologise' for the Woolwich murders. I also see some good posts about the need for individual purity. But what about actions to reduce or eliminate these incidents in the future? Do people think there is anything that can, or should, be done?

Although most Muslims are opposed to the violence there is a significant minority who see it as justified. And within that, a even smaller minority who want to get actively involved. I'm talking as much about Muslim on Muslim terrorism in iraq etc as the UK. Can anything be done about them? Is anything being done right now?
 
I see no reason whatsoever that Muslims should feel apologetic for these acts. Neither can I apologize for many of the horrendous acts committed through American foreign policy. Christians should not be apologetic for the actions of Westboro Baptist church.

Embarrassed and disgusted, though? Certainly.
 
What do you think about the response by this mosque in York?
True grace and human kindness in action, as well as courage?

A mosque has been praised for serving tea and biscuits to English Defence League supporters after the far-right group arranged a demonstration there.

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Father Tim Jones, who went to the Bull Lane mosque, which is situated in his parish, said: "I've always known they were intelligent and compassionate people and I think this has demonstrated the extent to which they are people of courage - certainly physical courage and also a high degree of moral courage.

"I think the world can learn from what happened outside that ramshackle little mosque on Sunday."

Hull Road ward councillor Neil Barnes said it had been a "proud moment for York".

He said: "I don't think I'll ever forget the day that the York Mosque tackled anger and hatred with peace and warmth - and I won't forget the sight of a Muslim offering a protester tea and biscuits with absolute sincerity."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-22689552
 
glo said:
What do you think about the response by this mosque in York?
True grace and human kindness in action, as well as courage?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-22689552
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Here is the account of a friend on facebook who was there (I highlighted the sentence which struck me the most in bold):

"It was really great - there were a lot of students their (the event was widely publicised and promoted on facebook amongst the student community). There was no real EDL presence in the end, and those who were there ended up coming inside for tea too The spirit and feel of the event was so encouraging - it also brought home to a lot of people, the influence of the media and social media in these situations. It is so easy to make a hateful remark on Facebook or Twitter (forums which sparked so much of this particular conflict) but when people group together in real life and have real conversations, you find that almost everybody is reasonable and respectful. It also sparked the creation of the 'Tea Defence League' facebook page, encouraging people to come together in peace to discuss their views: https://www.facebook.com/TeaDeeL"
 

"Instead of wasting time straightening a crooked line drawn by others,

it may be more beneficial to draw a straight line next to it"
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Mufti Ismail Menk
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In other words:
We cannot undo what has been done by others.

But, we can make every effort to act in the correct manner - one that truly reflects Quran and Sunnah, moving forward.
 

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