Intoxicant.

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[MENTION=40460]beleiver[/MENTION]

I do think though that daily use as a habit will block that connection

Will you respect this month...?

 

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[MENTION=30946]Abz2000[/MENTION] wouldn't people that think naturally be more passive?

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Will you respect this month...?

I started with that intention, i managed the first day without even a coffee or cigarette (and i have a longtime addiction to both) but got into a heated debate with my partner that resulted in me cursing her at the top of my voice:embarrass It was going really well till then and all making sense. I gave to charity that night and prayed for forgiveness.

Its not a great time for me to try Ramadhan for the first time, my partner is away in the evenings and i am here with four young children to look after, Inshala she is going to fast with me for that last two weeks when we are back to normal, she even said she will read the Quran.:shade:
As for weed i think i smoked just a couple of joints all month..And I certainly wouldn't be wanting to get stoned attempting Ramadhan...

 

[Abz2000]

[MENTION=30946]Abz2000[/MENTION] wouldn't people that think naturally be more passive?

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I started with that intention, i managed the first day without even a coffee or cigarette (and i have a longtime addiction to both) but got into a heated debate with my partner that resulted in me cursing her at the top of my voice:embarrass It was going really well till then and all making sense. I gave to charity that night and prayed for forgiveness.

Its not a great time for me to try Ramadhan for the first time, my partner is away in the evenings and i am here with four young children to look after, Inshala she is going to fast with me for that last two weeks when we are back to normal, she even said she will read the Quran.:shade:
As for weed i think i smoked just a couple of joints all month..And I certainly wouldn't be wanting to get stoned attempting Ramadhan...

It is a month of healing and recharging one's faith for the remainder of the year, it's also the easiest month of the year to keep Allah in mind since the whole setup is changed - i know it's very difficult when EVERY ADULT around you is working head over heels to make it look like Allah is absent and every other adult who does empty rituals and appears not to really believe demoralises you.
trying to keep that in mind so the rest of the year goes at least a little better might be useful - like when you're carrying something heavy and yoi keep pushing yourself by telling yourself that it's only the next couple of steps 'til destination.

Eating less helps since the soul never get's a chance to feel comfort in backsliding.
Be honest with yourself....does it ever really leave you satisfied the day or week after as good deeds do?

 

[سيف الله]

Salaam

What happens when a society adopts a 'casual' attitude towards drugs.

Forget 'evil' dealers. It's time to target the REAL drug villains...

The real drivers of drug crime in this country are the smug and self-satisfied people who buy and use illegal drugs. Yet, somehow, they are the ones who get away with it, even though their actions are severe crimes – in theory.

This has long been my view, but I was moved and pleased to hear Baroness Newlove, cruelly robbed of her brave husband by the violent crime from which nobody is now safe, making this point in the House of Lords. Alas, her powerful words received little attention. Could this be because parts of our media are corrupted by widespread drug abuse? I could not possibly say.

She condemned ‘the middle-class drug users who are funding this wave of violence. City workers who drink their Fairtrade coffee out of a reusable cup during the week think nothing of the supply chain of the stuff they snort up their noses at the weekend. In my view, they are as guilty as the moped riders’.

It is that point about the Fairtrade coffee that seems to me to be so important. People consider themselves to be right-on about climate change and third world poverty and recycle religiously, because they think these things are ethical and good.
Likewise they noisily despise the big greed lobbies which push tobacco, dubious pills, greasy fast food and sugar-laden drinks.

Yet I suspect that, to a man and a woman, they are all in favour of the fashionable campaign to ‘decriminalise’ or ‘regulate’ illegal drugs, especially the ones they like to take. Do they not know that a billionaire lobby (I call it Big Dope) stands behind the campaign to legalise marijuana?

Do they not know that this campaign is terrified of the growing mountains of research which link this supposedly soft drug with permanent mental illness?

And what do they think will be next, once the Big Dope lobby has succeeded, and cannabis is in high street shops, advertised everywhere, and freely available on the internet?

They will say: ‘But wouldn’t you rather these things were sold legally than in the hands of gangsters?’ No, I wouldn’t. Gangsters are foul and dangerous, but they don’t have one 50th of the power, wealth or ability which cynical businessmen have to sell and spread their nasty products. Like tobacco, cannabis and cocaine can never be safe. Let us not make the mistake of making them legal, too. Would cigarettes kill more or fewer people if tobacco were illegal, had never been advertised, could not be sold in shops and was only sold by gangsters? Plainly, they would kill many fewer people. Does ‘regulating’ them now, as the legalisers urge we should do with drugs, make cigarettes less deadly? No, it does not. They kill just the same.

We go on all the time about cartels and evil dealers and how they should be stamped out. But they never are.

This is because we forget the fact that the source of all this crime is in our midst.

It is the thousands of selfish people, with more money than sense, who buy illegal drugs and sustain the whole great stinking heap of wickedness which they bring into being.

They should be made to be ashamed of themselves, and to fear the law, made for the benefit of all, which they callously break.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

And more debate on the medical uses of Cannabis.

Who can fail to be moved by parents who believe that cannabis oil will help their stricken children? And who cannot be sympathetic to sufferers from MS and similar afflictions who believe that the drug in some form is good for them?

But compassion should not close our minds to fact and logic. You should know some important things. Cannabis has risks, which may well outweigh any good it does. The British Government has no hardline dogmatic objection to testing the medical properties of cannabis. It has licensed at least two drugs made from the cannabis plant, and there is a special legal cannabis farm at a secret location in Kent, to supply the makers of one of them.

But perhaps, above all, note that the American Keith Stroup, a veteran campaigner for legal marijuana for recreational purposes, gave the game away long ago. In a February 6, 1979 interview with the American university newspaper The Emory Wheel, he said he and his comrades planned to use medical marijuana as a red herring to get pot a good name. It may have been the biggest red herring ever.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

 

[beleiver]

no offense @junnon but that Hitchens fellow is a professional liar and a hypocrite, I really don't care for the bile that man spews.

Still looking for the word in Arabic for Intoxicant and the context used in Quran and Hadith?

 

[سيف الله]

Salaam

no offense @junnon but that Hitchens fellow is a professional liar and a hypocrite, I really don't care for the bile that man spews.

Still looking for the word in Arabic for Intoxicant and the context used in Quran and Hadith?

Ah starting a sentence starts with 'no offence' (why?), and thats a lot of ad hominem on your part, which means he must be hitting the mark to garner such a reaction.

When it comes to this subject just want to follow your desires and your looking for rationalisations for it. (Were all young once)

I know this is hard, but this is what it comes down to, drugs are bad, they distract they befuddle your mind and they are not harmless, its best to stay away from it and do something productive.

You can twist and turn but its simple as that.

 

[beleiver]

Salaam



Ah starting a sentence starts with 'no offence' (why?), and thats a lot of ad hominem on your part, which means he must be hitting the mark to garner such a reaction.

When it comes to this subject just want to follow your desires and your looking for rationalisations for it. (Were all young once)

I know this is hard, but this is what it comes down to, drugs are bad, they distract they befuddle your mind and they are not harmless, its best to stay away from it and do something productive.

You can twist and turn but its simple as that.

I started with no offense because i noted you have posted Hitchens works before on the site so you must admire and believe him..people often take offense when people they agree with are called liars, i called him a hypocrite as he drinks alcohol, a known dangerous drug, undeniably more damaging than say caffeine or cannabis or even banned chemical drugs.

My desire is for the Truth, so can anyone tell me what this word 'intoxicant' is in Arabic and what context the word is used in Islam? What rationale is there for forceful prohibition and punishment of those that might only wrong their own soul.

 

[Ümit]

Salaam

What happens when a society adopts a 'casual' attitude towards drugs.

Forget 'evil' dealers. It's time to target the REAL drug villains...

The real drivers of drug crime in this country are the smug and self-satisfied people who buy and use illegal drugs. Yet, somehow, they are the ones who get away with it, even though their actions are severe crimes – in theory.

This is not entirely true. Drugs are illegal, and people who use drugs will get arrested when they got busted, but since this group is so big, there are a lot of drug users who get away with it.
the other part of this view is about addiction. since drugs can be addictive it is not correct to entirely blame the users all the fault of this drugs issue. once hooked, you cannot stop...you cannot easily stop buying and using drugs if you are addicted to it., even though you want to.
So, yes...ignorant drugs users are to blame for this huge illegal drugs market...but to say that every drug user equals drug villian...that is not true.

This has long been my view, but I was moved and pleased to hear Baroness Newlove, cruelly robbed of her brave husband by the violent crime from which nobody is now safe, making this point in the House of Lords. Alas, her powerful words received little attention. Could this be because parts of our media are corrupted by widespread drug abuse? I could not possibly say.

She condemned ‘the middle-class drug users who are funding this wave of violence. City workers who drink their Fairtrade coffee out of a reusable cup during the week think nothing of the supply chain of the stuff they snort up their noses at the weekend. In my view, they are as guilty as the moped riders’.

I agree, with the exclusion of the ones who want to stop, but can't. people can make mistakes in their lives...but in this case, to rectify this mistake is not so easy unfortunately.

It is that point about the Fairtrade coffee that seems to me to be so important. People consider themselves to be right-on about climate change and third world poverty and recycle religiously, because they think these things are ethical and good.
Likewise they noisily despise the big greed lobbies which push tobacco, dubious pills, greasy fast food and sugar-laden drinks.

Yet I suspect that, to a man and a woman, they are all in favour of the fashionable campaign to ‘decriminalise’ or ‘regulate’ illegal drugs, especially the ones they like to take. Do they not know that a billionaire lobby (I call it Big Dope) stands behind the campaign to legalise marijuana?

Do they not know that this campaign is terrified of the growing mountains of research which link this supposedly soft drug with permanent mental illness?

And what do they think will be next, once the Big Dope lobby has succeeded, and cannabis is in high street shops, advertised everywhere, and freely available on the internet?

They will say: ‘But wouldn’t you rather these things were sold legally than in the hands of gangsters?’ No, I wouldn’t. Gangsters are foul and dangerous, but they don’t have one 50th of the power, wealth or ability which cynical businessmen have to sell and spread their nasty products. Like tobacco, cannabis and cocaine can never be safe. Let us not make the mistake of making them legal, too. Would cigarettes kill more or fewer people if tobacco were illegal, had never been advertised, could not be sold in shops and was only sold by gangsters? Plainly, they would kill many fewer people. Does ‘regulating’ them now, as the legalisers urge we should do with drugs, make cigarettes less deadly? No, it does not. They kill just the same.

I come from The Netherlands, and I have some experience with cannabis. last time I used cannabis was 15 years ago, and I do not plan to use it again. But if you ask me, what would you choose...1 cannabis being legal instead of alcohol, or 2 alcohol being legal instead of cannabis, I would choose option 1 without hesitation.
Cannabis is a softdrug. It can be mentally addictive...but not physically. users of cannabis are usually relaxed and pretty harmless. the permanent mental illness on long term is one of the fewer dangers of cannabis.

Alcohol however, is a hard drugs...both mentally and physically addictive. users of Alcohol are often agressive. not to mention the long list of illnesses alcohol causes on long term.

I am not saying that cannabis to be legalized...but i think it is much better than alcohol so I think it is wrong that alcohol is legal and cannabis not...at least alcohol should then be illegal too...but nobody would dare to start such a campaign.

We go on all the time about cartels and evil dealers and how they should be stamped out. But they never are.

This is because we forget the fact that the source of all this crime is in our midst.

The 'source' as you prefer to call them is a very large group of drug users...it is nice you have this view, but how did you plan to fight against this?
If you want to chop down a tree, would you start at the very top and take it down branch for branch? and it is a hug tree, or would you just go for the treetrunk?

It is the thousands of selfish people, with more money than sense, who buy illegal drugs and sustain the whole great stinking heap of wickedness which they bring into being.

They should be made to be ashamed of themselves, and to fear the law, made for the benefit of all, which they callously break.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

And more debate on the medical uses of Cannabis.

Who can fail to be moved by parents who believe that cannabis oil will help their stricken children? And who cannot be sympathetic to sufferers from MS and similar afflictions who believe that the drug in some form is good for them?

But compassion should not close our minds to fact and logic. You should know some important things. Cannabis has risks, which may well outweigh any good it does. The British Government has no hardline dogmatic objection to testing the medical properties of cannabis. It has licensed at least two drugs made from the cannabis plant, and there is a special legal cannabis farm at a secret location in Kent, to supply the makers of one of them.

But perhaps, above all, note that the American Keith Stroup, a veteran campaigner for legal marijuana for recreational purposes, gave the game away long ago. In a February 6, 1979 interview with the American university newspaper The Emory Wheel, he said he and his comrades planned to use medical marijuana as a red herring to get pot a good name. It may have been the biggest red herring ever.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

 

[ChosenTCO]

We mustn't let our baser instinct of anger get the better of us. Learn about addiction before throwing judgement onto those who are addicted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

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[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you beleiver;

Its not a great time for me to try Ramadhan for the first time,

I gave up smoking while I was probably at the lowest point in my life, when things were going very wrong for me, that was thirty seven years ago.

The dates for Ramadan are set, so regardless of whether you are feeling good, bad, strong or weak, this is the time to give things up. Allah has set these struggles because he knows we need help, if you look on Ramadan as a gift and not as a burden, it can help you change.

When you fight and overcome your own demons, you become stronger. The best time to start is when you are feeling low, this is because, there is a recognition that your addictions are not the route to recovery, rather your abstinence is.

Blessings,
Eric