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we have to be very precise when it comes to theml,
there is a diffrence between

Charity
business
rip off business
and pirot

even thou they act like a rip off busines and pirot they claim to be peacefull !!!
this is what im not happy about it.
i most have been very nice to view them as rip off business rather than pirot.:)
 
khoshtip_uk said:
do you guys agree with the fact that some governments like, british,american are trying to build empire??? and occupying and plundering and colonyzing others??
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No. Which countries are being 'occupied', 'plundered' and 'colonised' by the Americans and British?

If your answer is either 'Iraq' or 'Afghanistan', I suggest you obtain a dictionary and find out what those words actually mean.
 
Ohhh....kaaay.

Please refrain from insulting each other with all this 'evil American' rhetoric (at least, that's what it looked like).

Also, try not to derail the thread into yet another 9/11 conspiracy theory. The first post was asking about members' reactions to the videos of the Iranian President.
 
Trumble said:
No. Which countries are being 'occupied', 'plundered' and 'colonised' by the Americans and British?

If your answer is either 'Iraq' or 'Afghanistan', I suggest you obtain a dictionary and find out what those words actually mean.
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no im not talking about 9/11 afghanistan and iraq, im talking in general about american and british governments intrest, and based on history its clear what their intrest is.
do you really honestly belive someone would do all this just because they want freedom for other people???is this is what you are telling me??

in uk sometime i cant go to the pub and pisss for free, you are telling me they are spending billion and billion of pound to bring peace to some afghans???and its not about protecting their intrest ?!?!?
unfurtunately history says diffrent things!!!!

you also deniying of the fact that they colonyzed many countries already?!?!!?

i advise you to browse and read books about their intrest and make sure you read books from all over the world not only written by author from within one society so you get better and clearer view.
 
khoshtip_uk said:
do you really honestly belive someone would do all this just because they want freedom for other people???is this is what you are telling me??
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Nope, and it wasn't what I was telling you. Although military interventions have been made for that purpose - Kosovo springs to mind. 'Protecting interests', does not necessitate 'plundering', 'colonization' or even 'occupation', and you have failed to answer my question as to where you think those things are occuring.

unfurtunately history says diffrent things!!!!

you also deniying of the fact that they colonyzed many countries already?!?!!?
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Nope. The British colonised many, including what is now the United States. But my question has to be, so what? What does history have to do with it? The British Empire is long gone. And what was the last country the US 'colonized'?

i advise you to browse and read books about their intrest and make sure you read books from all over the world not only written by author from within one society so you get better and clearer view.
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With respect, you are hardly in position to lecture anybody about acquiring a "better and clearer view"!
 
If this guy is so great, why can't THIS site, an Islamic site, be accessed in Iran. It's blocked, just like they do in other totalitarian states. Ever wonder why no one from Iran posts on this site ? It's because Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs don't like free discussion and thought.
 
Trumble said:
Nope, and it wasn't what I was telling you. Although military interventions have been made for that purpose - Kosovo springs to mind. 'Protecting interests', does not necessitate 'plundering', 'colonization' or even 'occupation', and you have failed to answer my question as to where you think those things are occuring.



Nope. The British colonised many, including what is now the United States. But my question has to be, so what? What does history have to do with it? The British Empire is long gone. And what was the last country the US 'colonized'?

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whats is their intrest which they are protecting it ?!?!!? taking advantage of poor in the name of peace??

whats is the definition of colonyzing ???

**** what im saying is that we can help poor and fight dectators in a peace full manner,withouth colonyzing them!!!!! withouth taking advantage of them later on!!! withouth doing what they did to india etc, they are not really fighting and helping for peace they are just using this as an excuse they main priority and intrest is not peace...*****
 
luvziran said:
If this guy is so great, why can't THIS site, an Islamic site, be accessed in Iran. It's blocked, just like they do in other totalitarian states. Ever wonder why no one from Iran posts on this site ? It's because Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs don't like free discussion and thought.
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i never said his is great,thats another matter
 
khoshtip_uk said:
whats is their intrest which they are protecting it ?!?!!? taking advantage of poor in the name of peace??

whats is the definition of colonyzing ???

**** what im saying is that we can help poor and fight dectators in a peace full manner,withouth colonyzing them!!!!! withouth taking advantage of them later on!!! withouth doing what they did to india etc, they are not really fighting and helping for peace they are just using this as an excuse they main priority and intrest is not peace...*****
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I still think you need to pick up a dictionary and find the word "colonization"...
 
colonize= When large numbers of people or animals colonize a place, they go to live there and make it their home

this doesnt sound like what english are doing, they are taking politic power of land in their hand!!! i dont see many english going to india for example to live there for peace, no one want to do that these days !!! they just go there for politic its the english government that going there and messing about this is what im talking about
 
you seems to be very proud of colonizying, and beiing positive about it.
you see diffrent face behind this be more realistic.
do you often read book and watch foregin media ??? where do u live ??
 
khoshtip_uk said:
...do you really honestly belive someone would do all this just because they want freedom for other people???...

Pretty cynical. What about Bosnia and Somalia. No oil, but the U.S. helped anyway



in uk sometime i cant go to the pub and pisss for free,
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These people are in business, not to provide free restroom access to non-patrons. Next time belly up to the bar and buy a soda, then use the restroom.
 
if course they cant act pure pirate as I have said it previously, they have to show some manner they have to cover it somehow, so we think they are looking for peace,thats why i call them modern pirate (politic+old pirate). you just proved what im saying.

or better way of saying it "legal robbers"!!!! of course they going to find some excuse and politically justify it !!!
 
we have to be very precise when it comes to theml,
there is a diffrence between

Charity
business
rip off business
and pirate

if they are any thing beyond business then we cant claim they are peace full!
wherer would you put them?
 
And how is the U.S. stealing oil (if that's what you are implying) when we are paying almost $60 a barrel for it ? 'Pirates' don't pay for their 'booty'.
 
you being soo positive about it, you hiding all their negative factors and not agreeing about their weaknesses and trying to cover it up by bringing other factors up,

its in their intrest to rob and they do it if possible ok??? even if they pay billion dollar for oil for whatever reason, - if its in ur intrest to rob and you do it couple of times and you are still the same person with same intres then pple should be able to call you pirate and they will, and this is not peace,

why dont you want to agree with such a simple factor????
they do peacefull stuff, they do help others to certain limit but its not their ****ing priority to be peacefull and help me and you for free, its more of a rip off business, like we help only if you do this for us ..... etc,
a peacefull person helps poor with no questions asked.or at least peacefull or make sense question asked, not rip off
 

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