Iran says Islamic world can explode

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Fishman said:
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Actually if the USA got really mad it would probably turn everyone into little piles of radioactive waste.
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So what if the US got nukes remember they're just in a long list of bullies and they were delt with in the past, america won't dare use nukes no country would if they use it then the countries would retaliate and trust me the us won't want nukes going off in their cities.
 
islam-truth said:
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So what if the US got nukes remember they're just in a long list of bullies and they were delt with in the past, america won't dare use nukes no country would if they use it then the countries would retaliate and trust me the us won't want nukes going off in their cities.
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If the USA got really mad they would use the nukes though.
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islam-truth said:
So what if the US got nukes remember they're just in a long list of bullies and they were delt with in the past, america won't dare use nukes no country would if they use it then the countries would retaliate and trust me the us won't want nukes going off in their cities.
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Actually this is all a silly conversation, but to point out the obvious, presumably Israel has nuclear weapons too. If Israel gets wiped off the map, they won't care about retaliation - this is why they call it the Samson Option. They are supposed to have over 200 warheads. So any successful invasion of Israel would presumably lead to the loss of every single major Muslim cities in the Middle East and beyond. And Mecca.

Some things people should be scared of.
 
HeiGou said:
Actually this is all a silly conversation, but to point out the obvious, presumably Israel has nuclear weapons too. If Israel gets wiped off the map, they won't care about retaliation - this is why they call it the Samson Option. They are supposed to have over 200 warheads. So any successful invasion of Israel would presumably lead to the loss of every single major Muslim cities in the Middle East and beyond. And Mecca.

Some things people should be scared of.
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I never ment isreal I ment the wider world people can get hold of nukes on the black market and set them off, and btw mecca is protected so nothing to worry about.
 
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I think things might play out like. No nukes would ever be involved. But, realistically, and this could be any day now, the day that Israel demolishes Masjid al-Aqsa is the day that World War III begins.
 
so its ok then for israel to have nukes as you say. well lets not forget the usa are being threatned by north korea, who just seemed to be another ahmedjan. he shook the whole world by testing those missiles, this strating to look like something out of command and cnqure or one of those war movies where they show the oriental guy to look like the bad guy. americas days are outnumberd and britian is on a internal war wihin its own communityies.
 
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But, realistically, and this could be any day now, the day that Israel demolishes Masjid al-Aqsa is the day that World War III begins.
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Uh huh. I expect there is little anyone could do if they did. However there are two good reasons why it is unlikely to happen: 1. Religious Jews are forbidden to walk on the Rock because they do not know where the Holiest of Holies was. You have to be clean to set foot in the Temple, much less near the Altar. This is going to have to await the Messiah and the number of religious Jews who think otherwise is tiny. 2. Jesus said the Jews would never get the Temple back. So far He has been right. I don't think that American Christians would appreciate an attempt by Jews to show Jesus was liar.
 
totally agree, then i would like to see the so called scholars and intellects of the muslim world talk about fighting desires and so forth. will they still be frightend to claim on national tv or their lectures that jihad has now become fardh or wll they try to divert and brush it under the carpet?
 
Trumble said:
And how many millions would be likely to die, particularly if both Iran and Israel then have nuclear weapons? How many millions of muslims will die because of conflict that is essentially political, not religious, a conflict that, until recently Iran wanted nothing to do with as it had nothing to do with them?

At first I thought Ahmadinejad was fairly clever in manipulating muslim opinion in an attempt to gain 'leadership', or the nearest thing to it, in the muslim world. Now I'm starting to think he might actually be insane. Has he even considered what might happen to muslim minorities in North America and Europe if such an "explosion" occured? The man should shut his mouth, and start working with others towards a peaceful, two state solution.
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the iran leader is the best..
 
Fishman said:
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Actually if the USA got really mad it would probably turn everyone into little piles of radioactive waste.
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There's an interesting, albeit rather long, article on "the Rise of US Nuclear Primacy" HERE.

It explains quite well why the example of the Cold War, and hence of "MAD", is not relevant to today's world.
 
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I read the article, its quite interesting, but I disagree about it calling China a dangerous state. Iran is possibly dangerous, and North Korea definitely is, but China?
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Samee said:
Why does his saying imply that he wants world war three? And who are you to call him insane? Does him wanting his fellow brothers and sisters to get the deeds to their lands back entitle him insane? Does the mere fact that the Jews took the land of the Palestinians unlawfully even occur to you?

Let's say you are in your comfortable home right now typing away on your computer, when all of a sudden multiple nations decide that it is a time for a group of people to have their "own" state. They then proceed to kick you out of your land. Are you supposed to just sit back and pat them on their backs?

He doesn't want World War III. None of us do. We all know that the Isrealis will not leave under any circumstances. Until they leave the land, the peace will not exist. And if it must result in a global muslim war against the Jews, then so be it.
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hmm i agree ....
 
Fishman said:
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I read the article, its quite interesting, but I disagree about it calling China a dangerous state. Iran is possibly dangerous, and North Korea definitely is, but China?
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It depends on how you define "dangerous", I guess. There are possible zones of military conflict between the US and China, not least Taiwan. Such a conflict isn't likely, but plans will have been made for it on both sides.
 
I can not comprehend anyone who has ever expeienced war to consider it as being a choice. Sometimes I think too many people have watched one too many, old John Wayne movies.

War is not a contest. It is not fun. It is a time to see your best friends and family members die, in the most horrible manners imanginable. It should never be seen as a chance for glory. The opportunity to become a combatant, should not be sought for. True warriors are those who will do all they can to eliminate the need for war. Glory is not in the killing of the enemy, it is in the preservation of lives and truth, with the least number of casualties possible.

It is a last resort effort and is only justified when it is necessary for preservation and all other means have failed.

For those that have never seen the destructive power of nuclear devices, here is a video from the early 1950's. The camera is mounted nearly 10 miles from the blast. You will not see the actual blast, as that is the blinding light you initialy see. After the blast is over, and the flash diminishes you begin seeing the charecteristic mushroom cloud. The target in this test was a mock up city, built of structures made of various materials to determine how much distruction would be expected in an actual event.

Now, the device used in this early test is very primative and small by todays standards. Keep in mind the area you are viewing is over a mile across. The smoke trails you see going upward are vaporized buildings made of concrete and steel.

http://media.putfile.com/H-Bomb

EDIT: I added this link for those that can not get Putfile to open

If the Putfile link does not open for you try this link:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v359/sytall/?action=view&current=BOOM.flv

This is the picture of what mass war fare is like. There is no place for individual troops fighting hand to hand in honor. No one would desire this fate on their enemies, much less risk it falling upon friends and family.

Yes, we do need to stand up for our rights, we must defend our faith. But, the days of physical combat are over. We need to now learn to live in battle not how to die in it. We need to learn to use reason, public support, and education as our weapons, not bullets.
 
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the thing that scares me the most about all this is that both bush ahmadinejad share a religious prophecy about the end of the world.....
it's sad to see the young kids here who are so attracted by death - really sad.
 
snakelegs said:
the thing that scares me the most about all this is that both bush ahmadinejad share a religious prophecy about the end of the world.....
it's sad to see the young kids here who are so attracted by death - really sad.
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I don't know the specific motivators that would attract young people from this site to death. I periodically do find Christians attracted to the "end of the world" hooplah. I've always felt that such people were disappointed with themselves and wished their gloom on all of humankind. On the contrary when people are at peace with their lives I find them wishing to for all of humankind to experience such peace.
 
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Samee said:
Does the mere fact that the Jews took the land of the Palestinians unlawfully even occur to you?
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Uh, no. The land has belonged to the jews long before the palestinians came over from lebanon. Check the roman history texts.
 

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