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Iranians flock to Muslim Malaysia, not West

Low cost, high standards drives migrants East

TEHRAN (AFP)

A number of Iranians are flocking to Malaysia, attracted by a fellow Islamic country with a relatively low cost of living, instead of pursuing their dreams in traditional exile hubs such as Canada or Sweden.

Iranian computer specialist Sina Rahati left his home country for Kuala Lumpur three years ago. He misses neither Tehran's polluted streets nor the bureaucracy needed to set up a new business.

The one thing Rahati really does miss, though, is his favorite breakfast of "kaleh pacheh" -- a fatty traditional Iranian dish made from sheep's head and hooves that most outsiders find utterly inedible.


Wherever they go, the flight of educated Iranians in search of work and study is part of an ongoing "Brain Drain" which is depriving the country of some of its most talented young people.

Rahati, 26, who launched an e-commerce company in Tehran, moved to Malaysia after becoming frustrated with "stressful relations with government organizations that do not welcome a modern business."

"I travelled to a few countries and found Malaysia to be a nice and affordable place to live and study," said Rahati, who is in Kuala Lumpur to pursue a master's degree.

Iran has a large youth population, and has taken measures such as increasing the number of places in domestic universities in a bid to reduce the emigration trend. However, unofficial reports indicate that several hundred thousand undergraduates and graduates are leaving the country each year.

New destinations

The upward direction of this trend has not changed, but the destinations have.

Receiving souvenirs from cousins studying in Ontario or Gothenburg was common in the 1980s and 90s, but among many Iranian families gifts from Kuala Lumpur are now being sent back home.

Malaysia's affordable costs and a high standard of living have made Iranians -- the middle-class in particular -- turn their backs on the West and head East instead.

"As a student you get a wide range of free or cheap services in Malaysia at a relatively excellent level for Asia," said Pooria Asteraky, whose firm helps Iranians wanting to study in Malaysia.

Soaring demand on his introductory iranmalaysia.com website has created a busy office in northern Tehran providing a full package of services for those keen to study in Malaysia.

"In 2003 there were maybe 400 Iranians in Malaysia, but today I suppose they would be between 15,000 and 20,000," said Asteraky, who now lives in Malaysia. Officials put the number of Iranian students in Malaysia at between 3,000 and 4,000 today, saying the figure was only 900 in 2006.

Islamic connection

"After the 9/11 attacks, people from the Middle East feel more secure in Islamic countries," said Asteraky. "They (Malaysians) do not look at you as an alien and they would even give you some privileges because you are a foreigner," he added.

Visa controls at Western airports can be unnerving for Iranians these days, whether they involve fingerprinting or intense questioning, but Iranians visiting loved ones in Malaysia for less than 15 days do not need a visa.

"Easy visa, high educational standards, freedom, low costs of living and great transportation facilities" are among Malaysia's attractions for Iranian students, said Adnan Abas, counsellor at the Malaysian embassy in Tehran.

"Today in the other side of the world there is Islamophobia," Abas added. "The number of visas we issue is increasing."


http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/08/14/54752.html
 
20,000 Iranians in Malaysia... I dont know that... LOL..

But, I am wondering that, why they would migrate to a country where Shiism is illegal...
 
probably we need another holiday... iran day hehe :D yay!

boo to all who hates holidays :p
 
probably we need another holiday... iran day hehe :D yay!

boo to all who hates holidays :p

there are 80,000 Malaysian citizens who are Sikhs and they have no Sikhism public holidays recognised... why should the govt give a holiday for 20,000 non-Malaysians
 
actually i'm referring to my friend's comments...

I mmg dah tak observe cuti ntah hapa2 mcm thaipusam ke deepavali ke, hari wilayah ke... ganti cuti panjang raya.

nanti bila negro dah ramai kat malaysia kena observe cuti depa pulak. cuti vietnam day, cuti indon day...philippines day...

hampeh... time gadoh hidop melayu, tapi bila time cuti semua nak..
 
Interesting..
I know loads of people from muslim countries, especially in the middle east, are turning to Malaysia as an islamic place to go for vacation, but I didn't know they emigrated there..

"But, I am wondering that, why they would migrate to a country where Shiism is illegal..."..
Perhaps they're closet shiia?..
 
20,000 Iranians in Malaysia... I dont know that... LOL..

But, I am wondering that, why they would migrate to a country where Shiism is illegal...

Possibly they were not Shii and that was why they left Iran.

We at one time had large numbers come to the USA many settled in Southern California.

Community estimates put the Iranian population in Southern California at 500,000

Los Angeles now has a section called Tehrangeles because of the large Iranian population.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5459468
 
Interesting..
I know loads of people from muslim countries, especially in the middle east, are turning to Malaysia as an islamic place to go for vacation, but I didn't know they emigrated there..

"But, I am wondering that, why they would migrate to a country where Shiism is illegal..."..
Perhaps they're closet shiia?..

:sl: Yeah, my sis's bestfriend moved there in '07 with her husband because they both found jobs there and they wanted to make hijrah to an Islamic country. I've found that most people that want to make hijrah usually want to go to Malaysia (that I know of).
 
there are 80,000 Malaysian citizens who are Sikhs and they have no Sikhism public holidays recognised... why should the govt give a holiday for 20,000 non-Malaysians
How about Chinese new year ? is that public holidays in malaysia ?

In Indonesia, Chinese new year is a public holiday, since few years ago.
 
malaysia is a nice place:), you guys are lucky.

now I'm off to sleep
More than a nice place.
For millions people of Indonesia, Malaysia is a Dream Land.
But I dont want to talk about this, because I'm so shy.
And I cannot tell you why I'm so shy.:D

To brother north_malaysian and sister syilla, please dont tell anyone about that.
(Just kiding) :)
 
"I mmg dah tak observe cuti ntah hapa2 mcm thaipusam ke deepavali ke, hari wilayah ke... ganti cuti panjang raya.

nanti bila negro dah ramai kat malaysia kena observe cuti depa pulak. cuti vietnam day, cuti indon day...philippines day...

hampeh... time gadoh hidop melayu, tapi bila time cuti semua nak.. "

^and that made soo much sense, why didn't I think like this before:blind:
lol, what did your friend mean?
 
^and that made soo much sense, why didn't I think like this before:blind:
lol, what did your friend mean?

oh my, should i translate it? its too embarassing. I just can conclude it...that my friend is a businessman have his own company and got frustrated with the too much holiday for each ethnic. :D

and yeah...Chinese New Year (usually we just wrote it as CNY) entitled for two days holiday and Thaipusam too..and deepavali too...and christmast too...and Gawai too...and etc etc... hmm....
 
I mmg dah tak observe cuti ntah hapa2 mcm thaipusam ke deepavali ke, hari wilayah ke... ganti cuti panjang raya.

nanti bila negro dah ramai kat malaysia kena observe cuti depa pulak. cuti vietnam day, cuti indon day...philippines day...

hampeh... time gadoh hidop melayu, tapi bila time cuti semua nak..

Translation: "I dont observe these holidays which have nothing to do with (me) like Thaipusam, or Deepavali, or Federal Territory Day.... and replaced those holidays with a very long break for Eid.

In the future, when the Africans are too many in Malaysia, we have to observe their holidays then. Vietnamese holiday, Indonesian holiday ... Filipino holiday....

crap....when (we) are fighting (we shout) "Long Live the Malays", but when it comes to holidays, we would love to observe (those holidays that have nothing to do with the ethnic Malays)
 
Interesting..
I know loads of people from muslim countries, especially in the middle east, are turning to Malaysia as an islamic place to go for vacation, but I didn't know they emigrated there..

I've been to two (Non-Malaysian) Arab colonies, one in Kuala Lumpur and another one in Batu Feringghi (which is my parents hometown)..

In regards to Iranians, there are lots of them in Putrajaya especially in Alamanda Mall...some women wear chadors, some wear veil that show their hairs and some didn cover their awrah...

Perhaps they're closet shiia?..

Or non practising Shiites... or Sunnis... or Non-Religious...
 
Possibly they were not Shii and that was why they left Iran.

We at one time had large numbers come to the USA many settled in Southern California.

Community estimates put the Iranian population in Southern California at 500,000

Los Angeles now has a section called Tehrangeles because of the large Iranian population.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5459468

I've heard that there are many Iranians in USA and Canada, but many of them are Jewish or Baha'is...

I dont think that the Iranians in Malaysia are Jewish or Baha'is....

And some of them still observe Chador, and I dont think that they're Sunnis...

There are underground shiite centers in Malaysia, but exclusively for ethnic Malays (Imamite Shiite) and Gujeratis (Ismailite Shiite)... I dont know if there are underground shiite centers for the Iranians...
 

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