Iraq Prepares "Final" Battle with Al-Qaeda in Iraq

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And every Muslim living in America paying taxes has contributed to those forces, so by your definition and logic, it's ok that Muslims are killed. UNARMED MEANS NON COMBATANTS!! THEY DID NOT TAKE UP ARMS NOR DID THEY SHOW AGGRESSION TOWARDS ANY ISLAMIC COUNTRY!!

No it is a different with american muslims, because american muslims moved to america in the hope for a better life. Most asians didnt specifically chose america as their home, america was what they could move to at the time that they ran for their lives.

But those muslims who chose to live in america are equal to the americans.
If my mother was killed in tomorrow I would be mad and sad, but I would understand! She would be a victim of the war between the west and east, and I would accept the fact that she had to go.

Those "civilians" did not attack, but they payed and took care of the forces who are killing muslims every single day = They were not civilians!

They DID show agreesion towards islamic nations by supporting the existence of israel, by helping and supporting the terrorist state of israel.

No, I would not systematically kill Rice unless she was attacking me or my people in my land. PERIOD! The Qur'an was revealed 1400 years ago and still stands true today and to say different is putting you outside the folds of Islam!!

Rice has done just as much harm to the middle east as Bush, but then I suppose that you love Bush aswell. Rice is supporting Israel in every single way, she even supports the israeli civilian bombing. How can you say that she havent caused any harm to the middle east! she is directly supporting the people who kill the palestinians and iraqi's eveyr single day! She is a woman, is it against Islam to kill her? I dont think so!

You see your taking a verse and hadith and widing it out as it should not be!

It is haraam to kill a human unless they attacked you. When have Bin Laden ever attacked another country? He is defending his own people, he is not the one starting wars and conflicts.

You cant kill woman and children, but if there is no other way to achieve the better then it is not haraam! And we are talking about civilians! Those people were not innocent civilians!

If you could save the whole middle east if only you would kill 100 children and woman, would you not do it?
 
No it is a different with american muslims, because american muslims moved to america in the hope for a better life. Most asians didnt specifically chose america as their home, america was what they could move to at the time that they ran for their lives.

But those muslims who chose to live in america are equal to the americans.
If my mother was killed in tomorrow I would be mad and sad, but I would understand! She would be a victim of the war between the west and east, and I would accept the fact that she had to go.

Those "civilians" did not attack, but they payed and took care of the forces who are killing muslims every single day = They were not civilians!

They DID show agreesion towards islamic nations by supporting the existence of israel, by helping and supporting the terrorist state of israel.



Rice has done just as much harm to the middle east as Bush, but then I suppose that you love Bush aswell. Rice is supporting Israel in every single way, she even supports the israeli civilian bombing. How can you say that she havent caused any harm to the middle east! she is directly supporting the people who kill the palestinians and iraqi's eveyr single day! She is a woman, is it against Islam to kill her? I dont think so!

You see your taking a verse and hadith and widing it out as it should not be!

It is haraam to kill a human unless they attacked you. When have Bin Laden ever attacked another country? He is defending his own people, he is not the one starting wars and conflicts.

You cant kill woman and children, but if there is no other way to achieve the better then it is not haraam! And we are talking about civilians! Those people were not innocent civilians!

If you could save the whole middle east if only you would kill 100 children and woman, would you not do it?

Brother, I told you, I will not argue with you. I believe your views and understanding are totally outside the folds of Islam. You made accusations about me "loving Bush", so you have turned your hate tactics on to me. Take them somewhere else because I have no time for this and your twisted way of thinking. Believe as you wish.

May Allah,swt, guide you and us all. Ameen

Wasalam,
Hana
 
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Someone's account at LI is going to be sanitized very, very soon. There will be no trace of him (except on an NSA computer of course):thankyou:

BTW...I guess my memory is fading. Where were US forces engaged in active combat in a Muslim country before 9-11?

How about this guy Krypto? What was his rank in the US war machine?


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SHABBIR AHMED Fishing Getaways



Shabbir Ahmed had worked as a waiter in his share of swank city restaurants since immigrating from Bangladesh in 1981, but Windows on the World was such a favorite that he stayed 11 years. His son Thanbir, 16, thinks it was because the management and customers treated him the same way he treated them: nicely and politely. Also, he was earning a salary that made his dream in life -- providing a college education for his three children -- a real option; his oldest daughter, 19, attends Brooklyn College.

Fishing excursions to Gerritsen Creek and Sheepshead Bay were his favorite getaways: they reminded him of his boyhood. While he preferred to let his wife, Jeba, and his children clean whatever trout, catfish or bluefish he caught, he did lend a hand with the grilling.

When Mr. Ahmed, 44, was not off fishing in his leisure hours, he was tending to the backyard vegetable garden in Marine Park, Brooklyn, a responsibility he traded with his brother on an annual basis. This summer it was his turn: chilies, squash, eggplant and tomatoes made up this year's crop, but not all of them flourished. It seems he was more vigilant pursuing fish than he was yanking weeds and spreading fertilizer.
 
Yes, keep believing in tall tales. You love any lie that justifies you hate. I had hoped the hajj would get you closer to god and further from hate. Those hopes faded really fast.

Your one million murdered is just your standard distortion to justify your hate.

But what ever the real number is, I find it totally unjustified.

The difference between you and me is that I'm not a bald faced lier who hates my country and every thing that does not suite my beliefs.

The hajj inshallah was to make me more humble and better muslim, not a lover and supporter of the oppressors you continue to defend with your lies.

Go look up how many really died in iraq, i'm sure you can do a good job if you have a brain rather then keep showing us those pathetic fake numbers of your terrorists state.

The difference between you and me is that I call it as i see and you continue to defend your terrorist war criminals shamelessly without honor.
 
BTW...I guess my memory is fading. Where were US forces engaged in active combat in a Muslim country before 9-11?

Palestine, Iraq, Kuwait, Not to mention that you have removed nearly all muslim governments and replaced them with american allied betraying dictators.
 
Five American soldiers killed in the city of Mosul:

Five American soldiers were killed Monday by a roadside bomb in the northern city of Mosul, described as one of al-Qaida in Iraq's last strongholds, just days after a house explosion and suicide attack killed as many as 60 people there. Insurgents in a nearby mosque opened fire on other soldiers in the patrol after the roadside bombing, prompting a fierce gunbattle as U.S. and Iraqi troops secured the area, the military said. Iraqi soldiers entered the mosque but the gunmen had already fled, according to the statement.

Iraqi army reinforcements have moved into position near the city, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, ahead of a planned offensive announced by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. ` Monday's deaths raised to at least 36 the number of American troop deaths reported this month, an increase from the 23 recorded in December in one of the lowest monthly totals since the war started in March 2003.

Iraqi police in Mosul, the capital of Ninevah province, reported clashes between U.S.-Iraqi forces and gunmen in a middle-class Sunni neighborhood believed to be an insurgent stronghold.

An officer, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information, said three civilians were wounded and helicopters had bombarded buildings in the southeastern Sumar neighborhood, which has seen frequent attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces that have led to a series of raids.

"The insurgents are willing to desecrate a place of worship by using it to attack soldiers to further their agenda," said Maj. Peggy Kageleiry, a U.S. military spokeswoman in northern Iraq.

U.S. commanders describe Mosul as the last major urban center with a significant al-Qaida presence since the terror network has been driven from its strongholds in the capital and Anbar province.

The U.S. military has said Iraqi security forces will take the lead in Mosul — a major test of Washington's plan to, at an undetermined date, shrink the American force and leave it as backup for Iraqi security forces.

The Iraqi Red Crescent Organization, meanwhile, gave a higher death toll than Iraqi officials from Wednesday's devastating house explosion. The U.S. military said the cause of the blast has yet to be determined, although Iraqi officials were quick to blame al-Qaida.

Bolstering that claim, a suicide attacker killed a top police official and two other officers as they toured the wreckage the next day.

The relief organization said more than 60 people were killed and 280 wounded based on estimates from relatives who buried victims without officially registering them. Iraqi officials in Mosul maintain that nearly 40 were killed and more than 200 wounded.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080128/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
 
Not al-Qaida. If this happend in a sunni area, the shia millits would the the ones to blame and if it happend in a shia area it would be the sunnis that you would have to blaim.

Bin Laden is the leader of Al-Qaida! Look through every single one of his videos and you will always here his appeal to the iraqis to stop killing each other and instead start killing the real enemies.

He is the leader of al-Qaida = this was not done by al-Qaida.

Regarding deaths, us soldiers could easely have killed a bunch of suspected civilians as they usually do on their way, so those 40-100 might aswell have bin killed by the marines.

The Iraqi Body Counter, is a shia iraqi government organization counting the deaths of iraqi's. If this attack was done by shias which is very typical and common, the iraqi shia regime would simply lie and accuse al-Qaida as they usually do.
The shia millits are allied with the iraqi shia regime, at day they are the government and at night they are a group of shia millits causing harm to sunni's.

Your putting me in a sittuation that I dont want to be in, I'm not with al-Qaida! They've done more harm to me than what they have done to you, I'm just telling the truth as I and my people believe it.
 
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Car Bomb Targets US patrol in Mosul:

A suicide car bomber targeted a U.S. patrol Tuesday in Mosul, killing at least one Iraqi and wounding as many as 15, the military and police said, a day after a roadside bomb killed five American soldiers in the increasingly lawless northern city.

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At a U.S. base outside Mosul, scores of U.S. troops and an honor guard stood at attention on the airfield tarmac as five coffins of their slain comrades were loaded onto a plane for the journey home.

A cold wind blew as the bleak ceremony began. Five groups of eight pallbearers each took turns unloading a flag-draped coffin from the back of five Humvee ambulances, as about 75 members of the fallen soldiers' unit stood at attention.

At least 100 other soldiers stood erect and silent through the 30-minute ceremony. Even civilian workers at the airport of Forward Operating Base Marez on the outskirts of Mosul formed an honor line as the dead soldiers bodies' were loaded into a gray C-130 transport plane.

Soldiers refused permission to photograph the ceremony, saying the pain of the sudden loss of five comrades was too great, and that not all the families had been notified.

"President Bush should be out here watching this ramp ceremony to see what it is really like," said one soldier, who asked not to be identified.

"The people who created this war need to be thinking about the families of these 18-year-olds who are dying."

In the attack that killed the five Americans, a roadside bomb blew apart a Humvee and gunmen opened fire from a mosque. A fierce gunbattle erupted as U.S. and Iraqi soldiers secured the area, the military said. Iraqi troops entered the mosque but the insurgents had fled, according to a statement.

Monday's attack on the American patrol was the deadliest roadside bombing since Nov. 5, when four soldiers were killed by a blast that destroyed their Humvee in the northern Tamim province.

It was the deadliest single attack since six soldiers perished Jan. 9 in a booby-trapped house north of Baghdad.

With the deaths, the Pentagon is reporting at least 36 U.S. troops killed in January — 56 percent higher than December's 23 U.S. military deaths and the first monthly increase since August. But the figures remain well below monthly death tolls of more than 100 last spring.

There was other fighting in the neighborhood. An Iraqi officer, declining to be identified because he was not authorized to release the information, said three civilians were wounded and helicopters bombarded buildings in the district, the scene of frequent attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces.

Also Monday, insurgents attacked four policemen heading home from work south of Mosul, killing two and wounding the other two, Nineveh provincial police said.

Iraqi reinforcements, along with helicopters, tanks and armored vehicles, have converged on Mosul for what Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki pledged would be a decisive battle against al-Qaida in its last major urban stronghold.

In the Tuesday morning suicide attack in Mosul, the bomber detonated his explosives-laden car, killing one civilian and wounding 15 others in a predominantly Sunni area in eastern Mosul, a police officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

The U.S. military said no American casualties were reported.

Tensions in Mosul, Iraq's third largest city, have spiked after an explosion last week in an abandoned apartment that authorities say was used to stash insurgents' weapons and bombs. As many as 60 were killed and 200 injured.

The unrest in Mosul stands in sharp contrast to a significant decline in bloodshed most elsewhere in Iraq in recent months. The relative calm has been credited to a U.S.-led security crackdown — along with a Sunni revolt against al-Qaida in Iraq and a cease-fire order by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr for his powerful Mahdi Army militia.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

i found the american soldiers comment towards bush the most interesting part of the article!
 
If you want me to read the article, point out the important and cut it so it is not a whole book that I have to read and respond too.
 
For you it is for me it is not, and since this is for me then you should care about me.

Its only a bit less than the entire article on yahoo.
 
For you it is for me it is not, and since this is for me then you should care about me.

Its only a bit less than the entire article on yahoo.

a suicide car bomber attacked an american patrol, one Iraqi was killed. also the americans burried 5 of their dead who died in yesterday's roadside bombing, and one of the soldiers who was present at the funeral told Bush he should come and see what is happening, and that the people who started the Iraq war need to take responsibility. all of this in Mosul.
 
Ok thank you prince, now what's your point with this article?

I'm just wondering if the soldier who said a bit in the interview, is actually against the Iraq war, then how come he chose to fight in Iraq and is chosing to stay?

Its not like he will be executed if he refuses to fight and go out of the base.
 
Ok thank you prince, now what's your point with this article?

I'm just wondering if the soldier who said a bit in the interview, is actually against the Iraq war, then how come he chose to fight in Iraq and is chosing to stay?

Its not like he will be executed if he refuses to fight and go out of the base.

this WHOLE thread which i started is about the 'final' battle in Mosul as Maliki said, hence i am daily updating it with ground events happening in the 'battle' of Mosul.

Yesterday i posted the article showing a road-side bomb killed 5 american soldiers, and another attack killed 2 iraqi soldiers. today i post this attack, all taking place in Mosul.
 
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I understand now. I had no idea, I'm just talking about al-Qaida's role in Iraq, and the usual iraqi politics.
 
OMG is there any thing that you know? (Try Google)

Don't try Google. And don't believe everything you hear. There was a time when people repeated all sorts of statements they had no way to confirm, like that the Earth was flat. But that doesn't make it so. I was this man's sworn enemy... until I learned that I was lied to... and he wasn't the one who was doing all the lying!

The Ninth Scribe
 
Ok thank you prince, now what's your point with this article?

I'm just wondering if the soldier who said a bit in the interview, is actually against the Iraq war, then how come he chose to fight in Iraq and is chosing to stay?

Its not like he will be executed if he refuses to fight and go out of the base.

The soldiers don't have a choice. And they don't trust anyone anymore. The ones who signed as National Guard (local service here) were sent to Iraq and one of my daughter's friends was shipped out a month ago. They don't care about the politicians, or who is right or who is wrong. They care about trying to stay alive through it all. Not all of them, but a lot of them... and unfortunately, there's no way the Mujahideen can tell the difference. It's very nasty... but we're stuck with the reality.

I myself tried to join the Air Force back in 1985 because they promised to pay for college tuition if I signed up for a two year deal. Knowing I was a woman competing in a man's field, I wanted to make sure I had a buffet of talents that would blow their minds... but they turned me down because I had children. I was so upset, I actually got mad at God, because there was just no way they could have said no to all that talent. But I've since learned that everything happens for a reason and there isn't a day that goes by now that I don't kiss the ground and thank God for messing that up, because I don't have to follow orders.

The Ninth Scribe
 
Don't try Google. And don't believe everything you hear. There was a time when people repeated all sorts of statements they had no way to confirm, like that the Earth was flat. But that doesn't make it so. I was this man's sworn enemy... until I learned that I was lied to... and he wasn't the one who was doing all the lying!

The Ninth Scribe

OMG you think al-Zarqawi is one of the good guys?
 
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