is coke harram???

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salam alaikum
but thats the Issue I keep pointing out

WHERE the money goes is NOT an Issue which can be used to make it halal or haram!

Why?
Because otherwise dealing with the USA or UK would become completely HARAM because they support Isreal which is a proven fact!
All the following things would be classified as haram IF that argument was to be taken:
- Paying Taxes in USA or UK (thus in turn making it impossible to live there)
- Buying products in UK or USA
- Doing Business with those countries
- Partaking in organization or institute which pays taxes to those Govts

So if anyone who says Coke is Haram on the basis that the money is sent to Isreal should be true to their word and not ever again eat drink or use any products which directly or indirectly pay taxes or royalties to the UK and USA govts because they are direct supporters of Isreal.

I hope my argument makes things clear insha'Allah.
 
salam alaikum

Since we are on the topic I thought I would mention a few other "Baseless rumours" being spread across the net. We should avoid them please insha'Allah.

Pepsi Is Haram because....
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Take the Pepsi Logo and do a mirror image of it..spelled backwards it is..
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Add a A inbetween and draw a line on the P
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Take the circular logo and add the 6 points on the logo to draw a line and you get...
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KFC is Haram (even the ones in Muslim Countries) because...
What we dont know is that K dosent really stant for Kentucky...see for yourselves!
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Kellogs is Haram because.....
Special K is actually...Special Kafirs....
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So insha'Allah remember not everything is a conspiracy against the Muslims:blind:
 
^same here, if i don't drink coca cola i usually get a head ache... maybe they do have something like cafine in it?
 
Salaam,

hmmm....i dont like aerated drinks....so i'm safe anyways....:):)...fresh fruit juices are soooo much more better....

W'salaam
 
well try and drink them in moderation insha'Allah
you seem to have drunk too much and as mentioned earlier in access it becomes very harmful for you

try ad rid yourself of this dependency on coke or other such drinks
salam alaikum
 
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I know what you're trying to say Akulion bro, but I disagree. We don't have a choice when it comes to paying taxes. Our taxes fund services like the National Health service (NHS), education, Police, ambulance, fire, rubbish removal, social security and such. Did you think we are so lucky as to be given these services for free? The government uses income tax for many purposes. We have no choice but to pay it. They spend that money as they want and that includes international aid (including to muslim countries). The country the government supports does not make our paying of taxes haraam. We don't have a choice do we to pay tax. This applies to every individual, whether they are an employee, retailer or businessman/woman. The government do not collect taxes for supporting Israel/destroying Islam. If they give aid to Israel, that's their political agenda. They do it today, they might not do it tomorrow. But freemasons do only that. That is their sole purpose.

If a non-muslim beggar came up to you on the street and asked for money for food, being a charitable muslim, you'd give what you can afford. You do this out of humanity, for the sake of Allah. But if that beggar was to go buy fish and chips and a can of Coke, does that make the money you gave to him haram? No it does not. But if an open enemy of Islam was selling you something, with you knowing what that money was going to be used for, that makes it haram.


So willingly supporting a freemasonic company that makes no excuses for opposing Islam, and makes no bones about wanting to destroy Islam, questions one's morality greatly. Does it not bother a person that their money is directly being used against islam and for the bloody slaughter of muslims. You might as well go and buy a weapon to kill muslims and present it to them by hand. That is the result of supporting freemasonic companies.

I think denying this, is just an excuse for carrying on drinking coke etc. To them who say they are coke addicts.. well I was the biggest addict of all. But as soon as I wised up, I quit drinking it. I did it for Allah, for our muslim brothers and sisters. I gave up MacDonalds. I gave up buying any product that I knew to be a freemasonic one. I withdrew my hand from purchasing products from the open enemies of islam.

If anyone wants to carry on despite knowing what they know, then do it. If your conscience can bear it and you will die without drinking coke, then carry on. I only have to answer for my deeds and you to yours. I hope people can live with the fact that every can of coke they buy, buys a bullet to kill a muslim.


May Allah be with you. Ameen.
 
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Well,
I agree with sister nadia. When it coems to taxes we don't have a choice they fund so much including our wages. However knowing that buying some cafein blocks mixed with water is aiding the fight against muslims then I thank you kafir's for all your hard work, all that drinking, you deserve eternal hell.

About freemaison, I have done some reasearch (and met shady characters at libraries) and have found out that freemaison are a "secret" brotherhood that helps themselves. You have muslim free maisons jewish freemaisons athiest free maison etc. There was alot and still is alot of properganda against them becuase of their "power" as they seemed to have infiltrated, everywhere. I do not deny that freemaions can be Islamaphobic but generalising that supporting a freemasonic cause (like watching the simpsons :loving: ) supports the death of other muslims (especially when there are freemaison muslims:brother: :coolious: ).

i cant think of anything else to say that woudl enable me to kill 15 minutes for my food to get ready so,

wa-aliekum-aslaam. :peace:
 
so u guys havent come to a conclusion yet????well i think the drink in it self isnt haram....and we dont have fizzy drinks unless on occasions......
 
Salaam,

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There are various articles, on the net saying coke contains alcohol, is it haraam or not, yet many muslims are still drinking it, what would be your advice or verdict halal or haraam or another. ??

Principally, if the alcohol is extracted from grapes or dates it is not
permissible. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Khamr (wine) is
from these two trees, dates and grapes.' (Mishkãt p. 317).

Furthermore, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Alcohol itself
is prohibited and intoxication in every other beverage.' (Hidaaya vol. 4 p.
497).

In view of the abovementioned Hadith, since the alcohol in coke is from
ethanol which is fermented from sugar cane mollasses and does not
intoxicate, it is permissible. However, if one is doubtful, he may exercise
precaution and abstain.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

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source:http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6408

W'salaam
 
Yesss I've come to the conclusion sis ;)

I'm backing it up with:

Is a knife haram? No but killing someone with it is.

Is TV haram? No, but watching objectionable things on it is.

Is makeup haram? No, but beautifying yourself for a ghair-mahram is.

Is intercourse haram? No, but outside of marriage is it.

Similarly, ingredient wise, Coke is not haram, but funding it's makers, knowing the purpose of it's profits is.

Let me reinforce my statement in another way. If someone asked me for a knife to chop onions. me, giving them a knife is not haram. But if someone asked me for a knife to kill someone, then I am guilty of aiding and abetting them to a killing. So I participated in a haram act.

I think, I rest my case :peace: :coolsis: :peace:
 
pst sis tv is Haram!!!!yeah i didnt think coke is haram...this isnt going anywhere but ppls own opinions!!!!maybe we should ask around different imaams....inshallah we will get the answer.......
 
hehe well i agree with sis nadia (u'd think we were related lmao!). Abrar im glad u agree too coz we all no coke aint haram as as substance, but paying for the can is...I hmmm i wander what will happen if my mate bought me some...^^
 
Sis TV isn't haram. TV is a tool, it's how we use it is haram ;) If TV is haram then so are computers :D

And how can TV be haram when we can watch islamic programs, DVD's etc on it. It's our choice how we use these appliances. Music is haram but we can listen to Nasheeds and islamic lectures on hi-fi's, cd players etc etc. Just because music is haram it doesnt make cd players haram does it?
 
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Salam Alaikum
I am sorry but you guys are totally wrong...with regards to Taxes you do have a choice.
And thats migration ;)
Migrate to a country which dosent support Isreal :D

The main thing is where we wana make excuses we can find 100
but where we dont wana hehe then all is fair

no-fair - play fair and when logic is presented - keep it logical

and neither is there any proof presented so far and yet you say it is supporting free masonic causes?

But since you did compare the country govts to doing good as well then let me present you with the good Coca Cola is doing around the world

Coca-Cola China Limited has donated over 30 million yuan (3.6 million US dollars) since 1993 in support of China's community programs, Chairman of Coca-Cola China Limited Steve Chan said Saturday in Beijing.

Chan received an honorary "Mother River" Award Friday from eight Chinese ministries and commissions in recognition for Coca-Cola's contributions in the area of environmental protection and development in China.
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In hope that handicapped children can stand on their own feet, personal computers and other educational materials are donated annually to 10 public schools for the deaf, blind, and disabled in the CCWJ territory. By the end of fiscal 2005, such donations will have been made to a total of 126 schools.
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Coca-Cola Scholars Foundation

As a tribute to its legacy of civic service, the Coca-Cola Company created the Scholars Foundation in 1986 to mark its 100th anniversary. Located at the company's headquarters, the scholarship fund is a competitive national program for college-bound students who, in their high school years, demonstrate superior academic achievement, as well as leadership and community service. These criteria reflect the Coca-Cola Company's desire to support the educational goals of young people who are most likely to "make a difference in the world." Each scholarship award is made for a two- or four-year term; funds are available for the recipient's chosen course of study in an accredited post-secondary institution. In recent years the application process has been opened nationwide to all high school seniors and students attending two-year institutions.
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Coca-Cola Commits $1 Billion To Comprehensive Empowerment and Entrepreneurship Program
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Coca-Cola Valued Youth Program Celebrating Twenty Years of Keeping Students in School

Big Idea: Dropout prevention programs can help schools increase their "holding power" if they are designed to recognize students' inherent value, their contributions, and their potential significance to their communities and society, as a whole.
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Coca-Cola the ENTIRE company cant be over 100 Billion Dollars...
Wheras the USA gives 10 Billion Dollars Annually to Isreal every year since the last 40 years!
Thats 400 Billion Dollars!!!!

and quite frankly you want to make Coke "haram" (which you dont have the juridiction to make haram in the first place)

wheras a country which OPENLY bombs and kills Muslims - you want to keep that on the side lines?

Tsk tsk

So in the end if you want to boycott anyone dont boycott Coca Cola but Boycott BUSH and BLAIR

And remember just because a place suits your need and you know is guilty - dont defend it while bringing forth accusations against a company which you cannot even back up!

And most important insha'Allah - Do not pass Fatwas!! None of us here have the Authority to declare something Haram!

I believe I have presented my arguments with enough backing and proof - so Insha'Allah I will leave it at that for everyone to think about and base their decision on REAL proof as opposed to "hearsay and rumours"
 
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I agreeeeee with you suggesting migration. But it's true while we live, work here we have no choice but to pay tax. Migration, as wonderful and appealing it may seem is not easy. I have considered it before and still am willing but like I said I can't.

That's not an excuse. I have very valid reasons, because my life is entwined with others who would not migrate and me doing that alone would bring them great unhappiness. For example If I migrated, I'd take my young son with me. As I am not longer with his father, this would bring great unhappiness to my son and his father as they would be ripped out of each others lives. In my eyes an act like that would be so inhumane. Anyway, thats one factor, there's hundreds more, but we're going off topic, if you know what I mean.

Still, I stand by my earlier statement, that there is a helluva difference between paying taxes and directly increasing the funds of the kufaar.

:peace:

Oh and another thing. UK, wasnt built to destroy Islam but the society of freemasons was.
 
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Salaam.

If people had such Taqwa and love for Allah, they would migrate too.

We love the benefits, and the NHS.
 
...only now do I understand why women only have half a vote....

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...---... (SOS) to all alien passing crafts, please save me

lol
 
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Salaam.

If people had such Taqwa and love for Allah, they would migrate too.

We love the benefits, and the NHS.
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I agree bro Z, secretly I wish we'd get booted out. Then we'd all have to go.
I'd never stay for material reasons and forget the NHS. Our own countries are advanced enough in medcine mashaAllah.
 
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