Is Homeschooling a good or bad idea?

[BlissfullyJaded]

^ There were many other Muslims at my school, and I used to go to the masjid. So I had plenty of Muslim interaction, more than I have now at a public environment in college. Where there's a will, there's a way.

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

less interaction with the kufar more time to go to misjid many muslim interaction great deal so homeschool is Good i agree

 

[Dawud_uk]

lets deal with two the of the false attacks against home schooling to dispel them from peoples minds...

1. home schooled kids are isolated and lack social interaction.
this would only be the case if the childrens parents lacked social skills, and had themselves no social interaction with outers.

rather i would say it is the non home schooled kids who end being isolated, isolated from everyone who is not their age group. everyone else doesnt count, they are not in your class, they dont come up on the radar.

every home schooled kid i have come across has come across smart, confident, easy to talk to adults and kids alike of whatever age.

the only reason the kid might feel isolated was if the parents dont have many people to talk to and take their kids along, no friends with kids themselves.

but today every major city has a home schooling network so this really doesnt work.

2. you need to be a teacher to teach in home schooling,
ok it might help, then again it might not. you see a teacher is trained for 3 or 4 years in teaching big classes, very little one to one tuition, the sort of help that makes all the difference.

you see it is easy to teach a class of 20 or 30 a series of facts, see they have memorised them, but have their understood them?

this is where one to one tuition comes in and the average child in uk schools gets less than 10 minutes one to one time with the teacher every day.

so it is a different skill set to teach one to one so being a teacher isnt necessarily the best as you'd need to unlearn one set of skills to now teach only a one child or a few children at a time.

also... this might shock parents out there... teachers dont actually know a lot of what they teach.

they look it up in text books before they teach your kids, and even then it is often just teaching a year or two above the level they are teaching at.

what do i mean by this? well they only need know chemistry to a age 8 level to teach a 6 or 7 year old. so unless they've studied chemistry themselves they will know less than children older than this if the child is smart enough.

this is why later on in education you get teacher specialisation.

so you only need stay a couple of years above your child in knowledge level to home school, ok this makes it much more difficult if you are starting home schooling and your child is in their teens but if you are starting like me when your kid is 2 1/2 it is very easy.

it is just the natural progression from teaching your children to read, write, their numbers, Quran, aqeedah etc at a very basic level you are teaching at such a young level and then continuing with it, staying a bit ahead of the oldest child.

what is more, as there is a lot of one to one teaching you get to learn it all over again and learn it properly this time, not just a series of facts with little understanding behind it.

to conclude this post...

have those who critisize home schooling read the links i put up? if not then why not? why are your critisizing something you havent even bothered to take the time to learn about and understand? you are not qualified yourself here.

 

[ardianto]

Socializing ? not a problemm lool.
my problem was too MUCH socializing. I jus wanted to go out with my friends, and i was friends with my entire year group. So i was pretty much always asked to go somewhere. But it only got me in trouble and now i am thicker than a brick. seriousely, i have trouble with basic maths.

But yea, i am gonna join like a ton of sports clubs ( theres loads for muslims round my area ) and as many youth clubs/

Too much socializing ? trouble with basic maths ?..........me to, when I was Schoolboy !
Do you know, younger sister, I was a troublemaker and I droped out from school when I was in class 8, My problem was too much socializing, I had many friend, from good boys to bad boys, from Muezzin to drug dealers.
Then I tried to select my friends, I kicked away my 'wrong friend' and I brought myself closer to my 'right friend'.

Alhamdulillah, in High School I was not a troublemaker. And I became the most popular guy in my high school because I was the heaviest student. (I mean my size was XXL )

Too much socializing is not bad, but you must select your friend. Leave your bad friends and get many more good friends.

Join sport clubs and youth clubs is a right choice. And I suggest you to join Masjid's girls community.

 

[idk]

Jazakalahukayr to every1 for thesee posts.

MAYBE i might go back to school. Extra stress on tha maybe .

 

[noor iman]

salam alaikom sisters and brothers
I have read some articles about Homeschooling and I was think that it's very positive because it links learning with life directly. in fact In my country we haven't this system
But after reading all your opinions i found that the decision about Homeschooling is not easy (In some cases it is best in other cases it is not).
thank you
peace be upon you

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

2. you need to be a teacher to teach in home schooling,
ok it might help, then again it might not.

It would definitely help - no question about that.

you see a teacher is trained for 3 or 4 years in teaching big classes, very little one to one tuition, the sort of help that makes all the difference.

The principles of learning and teaching are broadly the same regardless of class size or age. However, most teachers will tell you that one-to-one tuition is far easier than class teaching.

you see it is easy to teach a class of 20 or 30 a series of facts, see they have memorised them, but have their understood them?

How long have you been a teacher?

Peace

 

[aadil77]

If you homeschool, you can still interact socially with the kids in yourneighborhood, mosque, recreational teams. The bigger problem about homeschool is the motivation to do exemplary -- as there is no competition. But thats easily overcome. Do you best and also try virtual classes

And when would that be? after school? You can't really make friends by sitting at home, you mostly meet them at school and whats a virtual class?

 

[Dawud_uk]

And when would that be? after school? You can't really make friends by sitting at home, you mostly meet them at school and whats a virtual class?

if you send your children to school they will make friends, lots of the wrong sort and then that damage needs to be repaired later.

if you are home schooled you will still meet other kids, but the sort of kids your parents want you to meet, there is a greater amount of control there until the kid is older and able to determine for him or herself who are righteous and who not.

think back at all the friends you made through school, how many of them benefited you in matters of the deen?

 

[Uthman]

http://www.islamicboard.com/world-affairs/134265038-many-muslims-turn-home-schooling.html

 

[AbuSalahudeen]

Since when did homeschool = isolation and anti social tendencies?

I know of a couple who homeschool their children, and their children are just like other children just smarter lol. Their children have plenty of friends around their neighbourhood and their children get involved with plenty of extra curricular activities with other children and attend a Madrassah every evening for two hours.

 

[chacha_jalebi]

i think home schooling aint a good idea

cause like the kid needs to explore the world, meet and understand different cultures and people, and many other reasons have been mentioned in this thread so to get to the point, quick style :shade:

the way i see it, if you keep a flower indoor it wont grow, let it outside and it will shooot up

 

[Yanal]

They will,in university.

 

[idk]

i think home schooling aint a good idea

cause like the kid needs to explore the world, meet and understand different cultures and people, and many other reasons have been mentioned in this thread so to get to the point, quick style :shade:

the way i see it, if you keep a flower indoor it wont grow, let it outside and it will shooot up

Unless the flower gets eaten by a bug :skeleton:

People, I have friends all over this city, dont get the impression im sad and lonely.

I considered homeschool because Ive been messed up before, and im determined not to let it happen again. Im doing it for the sake of allah, and allah only.

Oh, and also for my parents , cuz going to public school means im gonna want to go to parties n stuff n my parents arent cool with that - i know its wrong anyway, but once u get pulled into that its hard 2 see wats wrong and right, and i dont want to ruin ma rlshp with ma mom n dad ever again.


Thanks guys hope u understand clearer now :statisfie

 

[aadil77]

think back at all the friends you made through school, how many of them benefited you in matters of the deen?

I know what you mean brother, literaly only 2 people would have benefited me in matters of deen and this is in a college full of muslims, in leicester. This is where the problem comes, my mum would restrict me in the same way and it made it almost impossible to have any friends and this had serious effects on me.

I think as long as the person is equipped with deen I don't think there is a problem with who you make friends with as long as you stay away from any haraam they get up to, otherwise you're gonna be aloner especially if you're in a non muslim country like this where choice of good muslims is limited

 

[Dawud_uk]

I know what you mean brother, literaly only 2 people would have benefited me in matters of deen and this is in a college full of muslims, in leicester. This is where the problem comes, my mum would restrict me in the same way and it made it almost impossible to have any friends and this had serious effects on me.

I think as long as the person is equipped with deen I don't think there is a problem with who you make friends with as long as you stay away from any haraam they get up to, otherwise you're gonna be aloner especially if you're in a non muslim country like this where choice of good muslims is limited

Here is what Allah swt has to say regarding the matter of taking non-muslims as close friends,

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya’ . They are awliya’ to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk.
Quran 5:51

Awliya means allies, protectors but can also mean close friends as well and and can lead to kufr akbar.

Also Allah says,

"You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with and loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad- Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him), even if they are their fathers or their sons or their kindred…"
Quran 58:22

Here is what Rasoolullah saws said regarding your friendships,

"A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look at whom you befriend."
Abu Dawood and at-Tirmidhee

"The example of a good companion and a bad companion is like that of the seller of musk, and the one who blows the blacksmith's bellows. So as for the seller of musk then either he will grant you some, or you buy some from him, or at least you enjoy a pleasant smell from him. As for the one who blows the blacksmith's bellows then either he will burn your clothes or you will get an offensive smell from him."
Agreed upon in Bukhari and Muslim

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (2395)and Abu Dawood (4832); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani.

There are these narrations and many like them, including the danger of friendship as you will be raised with them on the day of judgement and who would want to be raised up with a kaffir or even a fasiq or bidati?

As muslims we are supposed to have al wala wal bara, love and emnity for the sake of Allah, our love for the muslims and our emnity towards the disbelievers.

This doesnt mean you cant be friendly with people, especially if you think it will bring them closer to islam but you cannot take them as close friends, even like them like you like the muslims as they are kuffar, there is a disease in their heart which is worse than any other sin.

 

[idk]

Here is what Allah swt has to say regarding the matter of taking non-muslims as close friends,

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya’ . They are awliya’ to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk.
Quran 5:51

Jzk Bro Great Advice.

Very true, got alot of non muslim friends that are close to my heart, but when it comes down to it i noticed that the muslim ones tend to stick by you alot more.
Oh, and they dont benefit you at all - yeah, sure theyre a laugh and they make you feel all good and bubbly n stuff but you know - theyre a bit like alcohol - too much can kill you, or even worse, lead you to hell.


Salams

 

[aadil77]

JazakhAllah, I was actually referring to my muslim friends who my mum did not approve of, some of their acts were no different or even worse than what kuffar got up to at the time.

So what I was saying is that if you have strong deen inside rather than avoiding everyone and anyone that engages in haraam, instead you could naturally avoid them only when they get up to no good. Otherwise brother I would have had to isolate myself for the sake of keeping pious company.

 

[Yanal]

In the end it's the personaility of the child getting homeschooled ,if it's an outgoing personaility then I say no,if it's shy then I say "Its a good idea".

 

[Dawud_uk]

JazakhAllah, I was actually referring to my muslim friends who my mum did not approve of, some of their acts were no different or even worse than what kuffar got up to at the time.

So what I was saying is that if you have strong deen inside rather than avoiding everyone and anyone that engages in haraam, instead you could naturally avoid them only when they get up to no good. Otherwise brother I would have had to isolate myself for the sake of keeping pious company.

but even this would have been better for you, it might seem strange coming from a revert but i was once in a simular situation to you as most of my friends when i reverted were friends of the brother who first took me to the masjid.

they were not exactly a good crew, would go snooker halls, not do anything too bad but everyone else there would be drinking or smoking weed, they also didnt pray and backbited a lot.

so in the end i stopped calling them unless it was going to be on my terms, going to a talk, asking where they were praying jummah etc and they were not really interested in continuing the friendship on those terms so i left it.

but...

if you give up something for the sake of Allah, Allah provides better and i found the good friends i needed at the masjid who had been keeping distance precisely because of the losers i had been with before.

now that was sheffield and i know leicester is different with the 'practicing' people rarely making friendships outside their family, but there are good people here and you can find them, it took me a while but i did, such people must once have been young so there must be simular youth in leicester for people who are in the position you were in before.