How did this happen?.. as Christianity is based on what happened when it happened, everything Jesus said was recorded AT THE TIME..
Actually the 4 gospels were written between 68CE and 110CE and remained anonymous until 180 CE until they were attributed to 'Matthew', 'Mark', 'Luke' and 'John', the earliest of whom (Mark) never even saw the historical Jesus.
as I believe the teachings of Prophet Mohammed was
False. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh has over 60 scribes writing down the Qur'anic revelations for him and his companions used to record his teachings as well.
the testemonies of Aisha were not accepted by Islam because she was a woman..
Again, shows your ignorance. Aisha rd was one of the
MOST prolific narrators of Ahâdîth, having narrated an astounding total of 2210 Ahâdîth!! So Muslim have 2210 of her testimonies which we follow and implement. Even in her lifetime she was known for providing religious rulings and knowledge.
but none the less you have to read with interest about Prophet Mohammeds clear low opinion of women
Why don't YOU read the teachings of Prophet Muhammad for yourself. THIS is what Prophet Muhammad pbuh taught about women:
Women in the Sunnah
There is certainly no shortage of statements from the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which honor women and promote their rights, beginning with the explicit mandate: 'I command you to be kind to women.' (Sahîh Bukhârî).
He often described a man's treatment of women to be reflective of his own nobility or worth. The Prophet said: 'None but a noble man treats women in an honorable manner. And none but an ignoble treats women disgracefully' (Sunan At-Tirmidhî)
The Prophet said: 'The most perfect believers are the best in conduct and the best of you are those who are best to their wives.' (Musnad Ahmad)
The Prophet said: 'The most perfect of the believers in faith are the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest to their wives. (Sunan At-Tirmidhî)
Muslims are commanded to always follow the example of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). In light of this, the Prophet said: 'The best of you is the one who is best to his wife. I am the best of you to his wife and I'm the best to my wife.' (Sunan At-Tirmidhî, Sunan Ad-Dârimî, Sahîh Ibn Hibbân)
There is no one who could describe better about how the Prophet (peace be upon) was with his wives, then the latter themselves. A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, was asked, "What did the Prophet used to do at home?" She answered, "he kept himself busy helping the members of his household, and when the time for prayer came, he would go out for the prayer". (Sahîh Bukhârî). The Prophet Muhammad participated in the household chores and helped his wives. "He would attend to his clothes, milk his sheep and serve himself." (Musnad Ahmad)
The Prophet advised one of his companions, Abdullah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'Aas, who used to fast all day and pray all night: 'Do not do that. Fast and break your fast, pray qiyaam and sleep, for your body has a right over you, your eyes have a right over you, your wife has a right over you and your visitors have a right over you.' (Sahîh Bukhârî, Sahîh Muslim)
The Prophet censured those who quarreled with their wives, describing them as being driven by the most evil of devils:
"Iblîs (Satan) sets up his throne on water, then he sends out his armies of devils (to incite humans to do evil). The closest to him of these troops are the ones who cause the most tribulation. One devil comes and says, 'I have done such and such.' Iblîs says, 'You have not done enough.' Then another one comes and says, 'I never left him alone until I created trouble and caused division between him and his wife.' Then Iblîs comes close to this devil and says, 'How excellent you are!' " (Sahîh Muslim)
Likewise, the Prophet denounced those men who were unfaithful regarding their wives' secrets:
'Verily among the most evil of people with Allah in ranking on the Day of Resurrection is a man who goes to his wife and whose wife goes to him, and then he spreads her secrets.' (Sahîh Muslim, Musnad Ahmad, Sunan Abû Dawûd)
Prophet Muhammad forbade hostility towards one's wife: 'The believer should not harbor hatred towards his wife. If he dislikes something in her, then surely he will be pleased with another quality in her.' (Sahîh Muslim)
Instead, he encouraged both men and women to be patient with their spouses: 'If any man shows patience with his wife's bad temper, Allah will give him a reward similar to the reward of Ayyub for his patience, and if any woman shows patience with her husband's bad temper, Allah will give her a reward similar to the reward of Asiyah daughter of Muzahim, the wife of Pharoah (Cf. Qur'an 66:11).' (Al-Kabâ'ir of Adh-Dhahabî)
The Prophet encouraged couples to enjoy time together: 'All activities of a man in which there is no mention of God are frivolity, except for four things: A man enjoying time with his wife, training his horse, walking between two purposeful goals, and teaching another man to swim.' (Sunan An-Nasâ'î, Mu'jam At-Tabarânî)
He spoke of the mutual rights of men and women on many occasions: 'Consult with women. Indeed, you have some rights over your women and they have some rights over you. It is their right on you that you provide for their food and clothing generously, and your right on them is that they do not let anyone whom you dislike in the house, walking upon your floor. (Sunan Ibn Mâjah, Sunan At-Tirmidhî)
And he said concerning the virtuous woman:
'The life of this world is bountiful, and the best of bounties is the righteous woman.' (Sahîh Muslim)
Perhaps the clearest example of Islam's honoring of women is in its directives for man to be dutiful to his mother. The Prophet said in a famous narration: 'Paradise lies at the feet of your mother' (Musnad Ahmad, Sunan An-Nasâ’i, Sunan Ibn Mâjah)
Scholars have proven the preference of the mother over the father from the following narration:
A man came to Prophet Muhammad asking “ O Messenger of God, who among the people is the most worthy of my good company?” The Prophet said “Your mother”. The man said “then who else?” The Prophet said “Your mother”. The man asked, “then who else?” The Prophet replied “Your mother” When the man asked for the fourth time, only then did the Prophet say, “Your father” ( Sahîh Bukhârî, Sahîh Muslim)
The Prophet did not stop at commanding kindness to wives and honoring one's mother. He continually singled out daughters when emphasizing the good treatment of one's children. The Prophet said: 'Anyone who cares for three daughter, gives them a good upbringing, marries them to good husbands and treats them well, they will enter paradise. The companions asked, "What about two daughters?" He said, "Even two daughters". They asked what about one daughter? He said "even one". (Sunan Abi Dawûd, Musnad Ahmad, Mustadarak Al-Hâkim). It is significant that in the above narration, the Prophet has promised nothing short of paradise to the believer on account of good treatment to women. Can there be any weightier statement in favor of women?
The Prophet explictly forbade any gender bias towards one's children, though it was prevalent in pre-islamic arabian culture. The Prophet said: 'Whoever has a daughter born to him, and he did not prefer his son over him, Allah will admit him to Paradise because of her.' (Mustadarak Al-Hâkim)
The Prophet also extended honorable treatment to include one's sisters in addition to daughters: 'There is no one who has three daughters, or three sisters, and he treats them well, but Allah will admit him/her to Paradise.' (Al-Adab Al-Mufrad of Bukhârî)
The Prophet said: 'There is no one among my ummah who has three daughters, or three sisters, and he supports them until they are grown up, but he will be with me in Paradise like this – and he held up his index and middle fingers together.' (Mu'jam At-Tabarânî)
Thus, the Prophet not only made virtuous treatment of women a path to paradise, but he said it would bring one close to the Prophet himself in paradise.
In another narration, the Prophet Muhammad said that a believing woman's sacrifice for he daughters was a cause for her entrance to paradise. A'isha, the wife of the Prophet (peace be upon him), said: 'A poor woman came to me carrying her two daughters. I gave her three dates to eat. She gave each child a date, and raised the third to her own mouth to eat it. Her daughters asked her to give it to them, so she split the date that she had wanted to eat between them. I was impressed by what she had done, and told the Messenger of Allah about it. He said, “Allah has decreed Paradise for her because of it”.' (Sahîh Muslim)
At a time when a woman was valued only for material benefits or superficial qualities, the Prophet Muhammad taught his companions to value women for their piety. The Prophet said: 'A woman is married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion; so marry one who is religious, may you be blessed.' (Sahîh Bukhârî)
The Prophet also said: 'Whoever Allah has blessed with a virtuous woman has been helped with half of his religion. So let him be mindful of God concerning the remaining half.' (Mu'jam At-Tabarânî, Mustadarak Al-Hâkim)
He also upheld women's right in choosing their spouse, as seen in the following narration:
Al-Khansaa’ bint Khidaam complained to the Prophet that her father wanted her to marry someone she didn’t want, saying “I do not wish to accept what my father has arranged.” The Prophet said, “Then this marriage is invalid, go and marry whomever you wish.” Al-Khansaa’ said, “I have actually accepted what my father has arranged, but I wanted women to know that fathers have no right in their daughter’s matters” (i.e. they have no right to force a marriage on them). (Fath Al-Barî Ibn Hajr, Sunan Ibn Mâjah)
The Prophet said: 'Assuredly, women are the twin halves of men.' (Sunan Abî Dawûd, Sunan At-Tirmidhî, Musnad Ahmad).
In light of the numerous teachings honoring women, it would be no exaggeration to say that the greatest advocate of women's rights was none other than the Prophet Muhammad himself, peace be upon him.
http://www.load-islam.com/artical_det.php?artical_id=794§ion=family_society&subsection=Women
let alone 9 wives and certainly never married a child.
Another myth refuted here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/refutations/5337-marriage-aisha-prophet-pbuh.html
IF Jesus and Mohammed were both soley messengers.. then why was Jesus born to a virgin.. yet Mohammed was not..
Why were Moses and Muhammad spoken to by God directly why Jesus was not? Why will Moses and Muhammad pbuh be the first risen on the Day of Resurrection and not Jesus? Why was Adam created directly by God, an honor not bestowed uoon any other human being after him? God honors ALL his prophets and Messengers in different ways.
Why was Jesus given the gift of healing.. yet Mohammed was not
False. Prophet Muhammad pbuh cured MANY people miraculously. By God's will, he immediately healed the broken leg of Abdullah ibn 'Atîq, the wound leg of Salama Ibn Al-Akwa, the eye inflammation of 'Alî ibn Abî Tâlib, the bleeding wound of Al-Harith Ibn Aws, and the eye of Qatâdah Ibn An-Nu'man which had been wounded so severely that it had prolapsed onto his cheek. After being healed, from that day on he could not tell which eye was the one that had been wounded since it was perfectly restored.
Jesus will return and will marry like all the other Prophets and he will die. And I've alread addressed the allegation about the marriage of Prophet Muhammad saws above.
It leaves a person like myself very confused as I learn Islam..
You're not learning about Islam; you're posting dozens of baseless anti-islamic allegations.
Ansar.. I apoligise if you find me to be nagative I assure you I was not trying to be.
Your comments indicate otherwise. Instead of asking what the Prophet pbuh taught about women, you make allegations about his teachings and yet we have seen the voluminous amount of evidence against you which shows that the Prophet pbuh honored women and elevated their status beyond any other religion or system, even today.
You mentioned I have not asked questions.. I have actually asked a few like the differences in the lives of Prophet Mohammed and Jesus and why are they so different if in fact they are both just human messengers. These were genuine questions.
No they are not. They are assertions placed in the format of a question. The statement, "Why did Muhammad not perform any miraculous healing?" is not a genuine question, you are making the assertion that he did not miraculously heal people, whereas the reality, as we have seen, is that MANY people were miraculously healed at his hands, by the will of God.
You are right when you say I dont know enough.. which is exactly why I came here to discuss Islam
If you really wanted to discuss you would STICK TO ONE TOPIC. That way you could learn more and understand that issue before proceeding to another one. Instead, you throw dozens of allegations all at once in the hope that your opponents will not be able to give each issue its due attention and sufficient explanation.
I have not meant to be offensive and I apoligise if I came accross that way.
I'm not interested in your apology; it is meaningless if you repeat the same behavior that you are apoologizing for. Why not ask about 1 issue at a time and then discuss that? What are you afraid of?
We only have to look at how he took Jewish women such as Safia Bint Huyay.
Yes, read all the information rather than selective misquotations from anti-islamic sources.
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/umm-ul-mukminin-safiyyah-the-jewish-wife-of-muhammad/
Safiyyah was the daughter of Huyayy ibn Akhtab, the undisputed leader of the Banu al-Nadir as well as a Jewish rabbi. Hence, she was of noble regal and rabbinical heritage. She became a captive of the Muslims when they seized al-Qamus, the fortress of Khaybar. When a Companion of the Prophet(P) heard of Safiyyah’s captivity, he approached the Prophet(P) with a suggestion that since she was a lady of Banu al-Nadir, only the Prophet(P) was fit enough to marry her. The Prophet(P) agreed to this suggestion and hence granted her freedom and married her.
This significant act of marrying Safiyyah(R) was indeed a great honour for her, for this not only preserved her dignity, it also prevented her from becoming a slave. Haykal notes that:
The Prophet granted her freedom and then married her, following the examples of great conquerors who married the daughters and wives of the kings whom they had conquered, partly in order to alleviate their tragedy and partly to preserve their dignity.
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The marriage to Safiyyah(R) has a political significance as well, as it helps to reduce hostilities and cement alliances. John L. Esposito notes that
As was customary for Arab chiefs, many were political marriages to cement alliances. Others were marriages to the widows of his companions who had fallen in combat and were in need of protection.
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Indeed, when Bilal ibn Rabah(R), a Companion of the Prophet, brought Safiyyah along with another Jewess before him(P) by passing through the Jews that were slain in the battle, Muhammad(P) personally chided Bilal and said “Have you no compassion, Bilal, when you brought two women past their dead husbands?”
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As for the accusation that Safiyyah was coerced into marriage or taken advantage of, as alleged by a known Islamophobic, this claim has no basis at all. It is known that Safiyyah(R) remained loyal to the Prophet until he passed away.
4 We have in fact the Prophet(P) making the following offer to her, as recorded by Martin Lings:
He
[the Prophet Muhammad - Ed.] then told Safiyyah that he was prepared to set her free, and he offered her the choice between remaining a Jewess and returning to her people or entering Islam and becoming his wife. “I choose God and His Messenger,” she said; and they were married at the first halt on the homeward march.
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The other wives of the Prophet(P) used to show their jealousy of her by making slights upon her Jewish origin. But the Prophet(P) always defended her. Once Safiyyah was vexed to the extreme by the taunts of all the Arab wives of the Prophet(P). She took the complaint to the Prophet(P), who felt great compassion for her. He consoled and encouraged her. He equipped her with logic by saying: “Safiyyah, take courage and be bold. They are in no way superior to you. Tell them: I am a daughter of the Prophet Harun, a niece of the Prophet Musa, and a wife of the Prophet Muhammad”. This is thus an excellent example of the Prophet Muhammad(P) trying to wipe out pre-Islamic anti-Semitism amongst the Arabs.
Conclusion
With the evidences laid bare before us, we do not see the justification of accusing the Prophet(P) of being a “rapist”, as those anti-Islamic critics allege. That the Prophet(P) himself married Safiyyah(R) so as to avoid the certainty of her being a slave of the Muslims and helped her to defend herself from the taunts of her co-wives is enough proof that the Prophet(P) was a man of exemplary conduct and remained honourable even to relatives of his most bitter foes.
And only God knows best.
- Muhammad Husayn Haykal, The Life of Muhammad (North American Trust Publications, 1976), p. 373 [back]
- John L. Esposito, Islam: The Straight Path, pp. 19-20 [back]
- A. Guillaume (trans.), The Life of Muhammad: A translation of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah (Oxford University Press, 1978), p. 515 [back]
- An account of how Safiyyah’s loyalty was affirmed by the Prophet(P) himself is recorded in Muhammad Husayn Haykal, op. cit., p. 374, of which an online document can be found. [back]
- Martin Lings, Muhammad: His Life Based On The Earliest Sources (George Allen & Unwin, 1983), p. 269 [back]
you can read about this full story for yourself (Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, pp. 120-123).
This is clearly not an anti Islamic source.
You've just shot yourself in the foot! You are referencing an arabic source on Sîrah - do you know about Mustalah al-Hadîth? Do you even know arabic? If not, then you have not read what is written in Tabaqat Ibn Sa'd yourself, only some selective quotation or translation on an anti-islamic site. You should know that with the books of Sîrah there are many types of narrations in them including the fabricated, weak, and the authentic. The Sahîh books of Sunnah are the ones whose narrations have been authenticated.
so therefore.. Islam is a continuation of Christianity.. it doesnt make any sense to say that it isnt if Islam existed before and after Christianity. IF it isnt.. what was Christianity?
Christianity was the pervesrion of Islamic teachings after Prophet Jesus pbuh. 'Christianity' itself is a name that comes from the derogatory label used by pagan disbelievers for the followers of Christ. Islam has always existed so it can in no sense be considered 'a continuation of Christianity'.
he Quoran states in many places about killing the unbelievers. ´Smite them at thier necks´ I am lead to believe is one such part of a Surat.
Pathetic misquotations again.
http://www.load-islam.com/artical_d...section=wel_islam&subsection=Misconceptions#5
Once again a poor translation serves the purpose of the Islam-haters very well. Let us examine a more accurate translation before analyzing the verse: 47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in battle, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been God's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of God,- He will never let their deeds be lost.
The context of this verse was when the Muslims were to fight their enemies for their very existence. After thirteen years of endurance and patience, the prophet and his companions had to leave their home town of Makkah and to emigrate to Madinah. When the people of Madinah had welcomed him there and he was accepted as a leader there, the Makkans became unhappy. They wanted to eliminate Muhammad and his religion; and so they sent their army to root out Islam. And the crucial battle took place in Badr. It was just before this that Muhammad received the revelation from God to fight: {And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.} (Al-Baqarah 2:190)
This meant that the Prophet and his companions were not to start the fighting; but to defend themselves against aggressors. That was how fighting was ordained; but we must know that once we fight, we fight to defeat the aggressors, so that we can live without fear of molestation and invasion; so that we can live in peace; so that justice is done. Remember God does not command any one to start fighting; rather He permits people to fight in self defence or for the defence of those who are attacked unjustly. (SOURCE)
When once the fight (Jihad) is entered upon, carry it out with the utmost vigour… (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Text, Translation and Commentary )
Clearly, these verses are applicable in the heat of battle and against an aggressive combating force. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.49)
8:61 But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that hears and knows (all things).
If the Muslims capture them and take them to a place that has been prepared for them, they should not harm them or torture them with beatings, depriving them of food and water, leaving them out in the sun or the cold, burning them with fire, or putting covers over their mouths, ears and eyes and putting them in cages like animals. Rather they should treat them with kindness and mercy, feed them well and encourage them to enter Islam... ...The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to enjoin the Muslims to treat prisoners well, whereas the Romans and those who came before them the Assyrians and Pharaohs, all used to put out their prisoners’ eyes with hot irons, and flay them alive, feeding their skins to dogs, such that the prisoners preferred death to life. (SOURCE)
More evidence is found by training schools training Muslims to be suicide bombers.
Schools are for educating people, not for training them to become bombers as the killing of civilians is something categorically prohibited by Islam and condemned by ALL the Muslim scholars. Here's one example from Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Sâlih Al-'Uthaymîn, the renowned Saudi scholar considered by many to be one of the greatest of our century. The Shaikh stated, during a tele-link Birmingham UK, on the 28th July 2000:
...Likewise I invite you to have respect for those people who have the right that they should be respected, from those between you and whom there is and agreement (of protection) [i.e. Non-Muslims]. For the land which you are living is such that there is an agreement between you and them. If this were not the case they would have killed you or expelled you. So preserve this agreement, and do not prove treacherous to it, since treachery is a sign of the hypocrites, and it is not from the way of the Believers.
And know that it is authentically reported from the Prophet that he said : "Whoever kills one who is under and agreement of protection will not smell the fragrance of Paradise."
Do not be fooled by those sayings of the foolish people : those who say : 'Those people are Non-Muslims, so their wealth is lawful for us [i.e. to misappropriate or take by way of murder and killing].' For by Allaah - this is a lie. A lie about Allaah's Religion, and a lie in Islamic societies.
So we may not say that it is lawful to be treacherous towards people whom we have an agreement with.
O my brothers. O youth. O Muslims. Be truthful in your buying and selling, and renting, and leasing, and in all mutual transactions. Because truthfulness is from the characteristics of the Believers, and Allaah - the Most High - has commanded truthfulness - in the saying of Allaah - the Most High -
"O you who believe - fear and keep you duty to Allaah and be with the truthful"
And the Prophet encouraged truthfulness and said : "Adhere to truthfulness, because truthfulness leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise; and a person will continue to be truthful, and strive to be truthful until he will be written down with Allaah as a truthful person".
And he warned against falsehood, and said : "Beware of falsehood, because falsehood leads to wickedness, and wickedness leads to the Fire. And a person will continue lying, and striving to lie until he is written down with Allaah as a great liar."
O my brother Muslims. O youth. Be true in your sayings with your brothers, and with those Non-Muslims whom you live along with - so that you will be inviters to the Religion of Islaam, by your actions and in reality. So how many people there are who first entered into Islaam because of the behaviour and manners of the Muslims, and their truthfulness, and their being true in their dealings.
but then makes it against Islamic law to leave the religeon.
Refer to this discussion:
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/29147-who-wants-live-theocracy.html
Speaking of carnal desires,, sex is mentioned a few times in the Quoran,a woman should be ready at all times for her husband for instance.
Again, betrays your ignorance. The Qur'an doesn't say this, and what is found in the sunnah is the mutual rights and respect of BOTH spouses.
Instead of posting dozens of different claims and then not following up on any of them when they are exposed to be lies, why don't you focus on one topic and ask the Muslims here questions with an aim to learn and better understand that issue? Surely that cannot be so difficult.
eace: and :respect: