Is it a sin to marry someone who doesnt pray ??

[Zafran]

Assalamualikum.,Have you studied Islam well to give your own fatwa which contradicts Quran and Sunnah?
Be aware of what you say.Islam doesn't depend on our opinion and what we think.Islam depends on what is written in Quran and Hadith.

Assalamualikum

Salaam

The same can be applied to you and everyone that has given there "fatwa" on this issue in this thread as none opf us are scholars or are qualified to give a fatwa - she should go to her local Imam and ask him the question or a scholar in her area.

peace

 

[revert2007]

Salaam

The same can be applied to you and everyone that has given there "fatwa" on this issue in this thread as none opf us are scholars or are qualified to give a fatwa - she should go to her local Imam and ask him the question or a scholar in her area.

peace

Well I gave the answer given by a scholar.As a revert I am more aware of giving own opinion which contradicts quran and sunnah.Just because I didn;'t give the evidence in the beginning,it doens't mean what I said is from me or what I said is wrong.

Just check out this video

 

[piXie]

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[S_87]

not praying is a pretty serious issue, the majority opinion for a person who doesnt not pray is that it is kufr. this counts for a person that doesnt pray because they are lazy, even if they accept that praying is obligatory. for more on this read:
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/104412/pray kufr

now if we are looking for righteous people with deen, prayer must be on the forefront. it is one of the pillar sof islam, how can you find a good muslim who doesnt pray?
and remember the same works for you, you must try to pray my dear sister, whatever you do in life, you must not give into the shaytaan with regards to prayer. because once you have given into him for that, the rest of his job is easy. try to pray again and may Allah bless you with a righteous man who you will be happy with

 

[brotherubaid]

Salaam

The same can be applied to you and everyone that has given there "fatwa" on this issue in this thread as none opf us are scholars or are qualified to give a fatwa - she should go to her local Imam and ask him the question or a scholar in her area.

peace

People have posted here the fatwa of the schlras , that CONTAIN the evidences and views of the sahaba n the tabieen n the imams!! check my earlier reply and DO read it may Allah bless u.

 

[Raziah]

Alsalam alikum,

Do you really think that he will appreciate you if he doesn't appreciate Allah(swt)?

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam

. man says clearly that he doens't pray at all and he addmits it..then that woman must get divorce.

what I read that if one deos nt pray out of laziness , then it does not make him/her a kaafir. But if one denies that there is no need for prayer or claim that s/he does not believe in Allah and worshipping Him through salat , then s/he is not a Muslim anymore. S/he will be given a chance to repent .

To the OP sis , pl. talk to a Mufti.

 

[Zafran]

Well I gave the answer given by a scholar.As a revert I am more aware of giving own opinion which contradicts quran and sunnah.Just because I didn;'t give the evidence in the beginning,it doens't mean what I said is from me or what I said is wrong.

Just check out this video

do you know anything about schools of thought - if you do then it would be nice to know what school of thought the fatwa you have taken is from?

 

[Zafran]

Salaam




what I read that if one deos nt pray out of laziness , then it does not make him/her a kaafir. But if one denies that there is no need for prayer or claim that s/he does not believe in Allah and worshipping Him through salat , then s/he is not a Muslim anymore. S/he will be given a chance to repent .

To the OP sis , pl. talk to a Mufti.

salaam

Yes - this is also what I have read to.

peace

 

[Masuma]

Salaam

I wanted to know the rulings on this ?? some1 has mentioned this to me, and it got me thinking, would i be committing a sin, if i married some1 who doesnt pray ?? would the marriage be invalid ?? children illegitmate ?? do i make this a requirement when looking 4 a partner ?? what if he starts off praying, in the beginning, then refuses to after ?? Ive been told if this happened, then a divorce would have to be sought ? is this true ??

D

Really? Well then I would wait for the replies too.

But I don't think that it will make marriage haram. Nauzbillah! I mean if your "would-be husband/wife" doesn't pray, then you can make them to and in this way Allah will reward you too for every prayer they offer.

But here is a thing. Why marry a person who is not a practicing Muslim? Prophet (s.a.w) said that when a man marries, he might marry for one of the four things.
1. wealth
2. beauty
3. I forgot.
4. Taqwa (i.e. God's consciousness)
And the best among them is number 4.

So while marrying, don't you think we should see to it that whether the other person is more or equally religious as you; which is important for having a good life?

In this way, the other person can even guide you about religion and the respect between the partners would further increase.

But I don't know this matter properly. So I'm leaving it on others. May Allah Bless you!

 

[distressed]

Sister, please do not take this as me belittling you.

The fact that you have to say things like this implies that you don't quite grasp the gravity of your religion.

This life is a test. A short one at that too. We are not meant to be here forever and compared to the hearafter, it is nothing.

By not following Allah's commands, we will most likely end up in hell. Our goal is to worship Allah to the best of our abilities. We should lift our gaze away from the dunya and change our focus onto the akhirah. We are slaves of Allah. Pause and think what that entails.

Worshipping shouldn't be seen as a burden either. Connect with Allah. Make dua for guidance.

When our mindset is such that we desire Allah's pleasure above all else (as we all should desire) then asking about a practising partner becomes a moot point. We would not even think to do it. Much like marrying a non-muslim, we wouldn't even consider it.

But the fact that you ask, implies that you don't place due importance to the worship of Allah. So first step sister, should be for you to change your perspective on life such that you wholeheartedly and unreseverdly desire the pleasure of Allah, above all else and secondary to none.

Consquences of not having that desire is hellfire. Somebody that doesn't attach importance to prayer and worship is going to be punished severely. Why would you want to marry somebody who will have that fate? He would most likely drag you down with him.

As for not being able to get married if you make such a demand, then realise that all is in the control and power of Allah. Make sincere dua, place religion above all else and InshaAllah doors will open while you thought it was impossible. Be patient and perservere.

Strive to marry an Allah focused individual that will guide you into to become a better muslim too and ultimately take you to jannah.

Sister, understand that none of the 'goodness' a person can have will avail him in the hearafter if he didn't worship Allah.

The criterion ought to be religion first and foremost (which would automatically imply goodness in a person).

Salaam

When i wrote this post, things were different, so your prob right i didnt have any idea about my religion. these last few weeks ive learnt a whole lot more, things are getting a bit clearer, and i understand lots more.

Although i understand NOW, what every1 is saying on here. Ive been told i hav to marry, like now, the thing is my only options are people that dont pray. so what do i do ? I cant ask an imam cos the ones in our community do cultural things mixed with relgion,.and ive only realised this recently. I knw if i ask a imam in our area, i wont get told the truth as such, cos there backwards.! & in our area no1 prays..well not the younger generation. If i refuse, then im given the nyc label that theres "something wrong " with me and upset my family + i dont get to talk to that person..

I know if i start asking about the prayer thing..then im gona offend people. obviously my religion comes first to me, but try telling this stuff to others.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

what about if you agree to meet the brother (even if you know he doesn't pray) ask subtly/indirectly (or whichever method you feel best will give you an answer) whether he prays or not and if he answers you with something you dislike then, you-already having preformed your preferences- thus disagree then everyone has seen the reason why you have rejected him with their own eyes- thus no reason to speculate and be suspicious???

if that doesn't work and you still get pestered by people/your family, then by you rejecting him, they know what your preferences are and*hopefully* will see why you wont settle for anything less. so basically you have to let them know that accepting one who doesnt pray is a no-no. be stubborn about it and dont accept otherwise.

i think you also (if you can) wait until you feel steadfast in your deen and have been practicing for a while...this will show people the type of person you are/the type of person you are looking for and more importantly it could be dawah for others and in a while there will be more people praying...so it wont seem such an alien practice that you want someone who prays.

if not many people in your area pray, is it possible to move somewhere to a place where you will meet a brother who is of your culture but does pray?

 

[distressed]

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what about if you agree to meet the brother (even if you know he doesn't pray) ask subtly/indirectly (or whichever method you feel best will give you an answer) whether he prays or not and if he answers you with something you dislike then, you-already having preformed your preferences- thus disagree then everyone has seen the reason why you have rejected him with their own eyes- thus no reason to speculate and be suspicious????

I was thinking of doing this but the thing is if i agree to meet sum1, then people will take it as gospel that ive agreed to the marriage just thru 1 meeting. I can try this, but im not sure how many q's if any and how much time i will have to ask what i need to. basically, any1 that gets put forward, i'll have basic family background knowledge, so i'll know b4 meeting them if they pray or not.

:if that doesn't work and you still get pestered by people/your family, then by you rejecting him, they know what your preferences are and*hopefully* will see why you wont settle for anything less. so basically you have to let them know that accepting one who doesnt pray is a no-no. be stubborn about it and dont accept otherwise.

I understand what your saying, if only it was that simple. The thing is cos of my age, i cant really hang around or so ive been told (im 29 next month) for a woman to be unmarried its not acceptable, well not not in our community, & theres only so much critism you can take from elder aunties, that like to take a dig or two over there tea, when there asking shaadi questions.

:i think you also (if you can) wait until you feel steadfast in your deen and have been practicing for a while...this will show people the type of person you are/the type of person you are looking for and more importantly it could be dawah for others and in a while there will be more people praying...so it wont seem such an alien practice that you want someone who prays.

if not many people in your area pray, is it possible to move somewhere to a place where you will meet a brother who is of your culture but does pray?

I dont think just by me praying some1 will take notice, wud be nyc, but i know that wont happen. ive only starting looking in2 islam myself last few weeks -history etc. I did think, if the pressure gets worst, then i move out, but then again, same thing, cos then i'll get labelled as a woman whos doing something wrong, if you get what i mean & my family will get the backlash, even though im not that sort of person. Its hard to know wat to do for the best sumtimes.

D

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

I was thinking of doing this but the thing is if i agree to meet sum1, then people will take it as gospel that ive agreed to the marriage just thru 1 meeting. I can try this, but im not sure how many q's if any and how much time i will have to ask what i need to. basically, any1 that gets put forward, i'll have basic family background knowledge, so i'll know b4 meeting them if they pray or not.

just intentionally meet a guy who you know everyone else dislikes as well and use that as your "veil"

I understand what your saying, if only it was that simple. The thing is cos of my age, i cant really hang around or so ive been told (im 29 next month) for a woman to be unmarried its not acceptable, well not not in our community, & theres only so much critism you can take from elder aunties, that like to take a dig or two over there tea, when there asking shaadi questions.

yeah people dont shut up but would you really marry someone you don't really like just to shut people up? don't people eventually get bored of talking about the same thing :hmm:

I dont think just by me praying some1 will take notice, wud be nyc, but i know that wont happen. ive only starting looking in2 islam myself last few weeks -history etc. I did think, if the pressure gets worst, then i move out, but then again, same thing, cos then i'll get labelled as a woman whos doing something wrong, if you get what i mean & my family will get the backlash, even though im not that sort of person. Its hard to know wat to do for the best sumtimes.

i guess your best bet is dua then. hope all goes well :]

 

[Salahudeen]

Some sayings Amongst the Companions That the One Who Does Not Pray Is A Disbeliever

1 - Mujahid bin al-Hajjaj (the noble Tabi’i) asked Jabir bin ‘Abdillah (the noble Companion): “What actions did you use to differentiate between belief and disbelief during the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him)?” He replied: “The prayer.”

[al-Marwazi in 'Ta'dhim Qadr as-Salah' (2/877) and al-Lalaka'i in 'I'tiqad Ahl as-Sunnah' (4/829), by way of Ya'qub bin Ibrahim, who is known as a trustworthy narrator]

2 - The noble Tabi’i ‘Abdullah bin Shaqiq al-’Aqili said: “The Companions of Muhammad did not see the abandonment of any actions as consituting disbelief except for the prayer.”

[at-Tirmidhi (2622) and al-Hakim (1/1248) by way of Bishr bin al-Mufaddal. al-Hakim declared it to be authentic on the conditions of al-Bukhari and Muslim]

al-Mubarakfuri commented on this in ‘Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi’ (7/370) by saying: “This saying of ‘Abdullah bin Shaqiq – in its apparent meaning – proves that the Companions of the Messenger of Allah believed the abandoment of prayer to be disbelief. What is apparent from this statement is that the Companions were all agreed in this, since he said: “The Companions of Muhammad…,” which is a collective attribution.”

3 - The noble Tabi’i al-Hasan al-Basri said: “It has reached me that the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) used to say: “Between a servant and his falling into polytheism and disbelief is that he leaves the prayer without a valid excuse.”

[al-Lalaka'i (4/829, 1539), Ibn Battah in 'al-Ibanah' (p. 87), and al-Khallal in 'as-Sunnah' (4/124 and #1372)]

4 - Hammad bin Zayd narrated from Ayyub (a well-known Tabi’i) that he said: “To leave the prayer is disbelief. There is no difference of opinion on this.”

[al-Marwazi in 'Ta'dhim Qadr as-Salah' (2/925 and 978)]

5 - al-Marwazi also mentions that he heard Ishaq bin Rahwiyah (the well-known trustworthy narrator, the companion of Ahmad bin Hambal) say: “It has been authentically narrated from the Prophet (peace be upon him) that the one who leaves the prayer is a disbeliever. Likewise, this has been the opinion of the people of knowledge since the time of the Prophet up until our times: that the one who leaves the prayer beyond its proper time – intentionally and without a valid excuse – is a disbeliever.”

6 - al-Marwazi also mentioned in ‘Ta’dhim Qadr as-Salah’ (2/925): “We mentioned the reports narrated from the Prophet (peace be upon him) regarding the disbelief of the one who leaves the prayer, and his leaving the creed of Islam, and the permissibility of fighting the one who refuses to establish it. Then, we received similar reports from the Companions, and we did not come across any difference from this opinion from a single one of them. However, the people of knowledge began differing in this afterwards…”

And it is well-known that Muhammad bin Nasr al-Marwazi was famous for his vast knowledge of the sayings and opinions of the people of knowledge in the area of agreement and differing on various legal issues, as was mentioned by al-Khatib al-Baghdadi in ‘Tarikh Baghdad’ (3/315): “He was from the most knowledgable of people of the differences of opinion amonst the Companions and those who came after them.” Also, adh-Dhahabi supported this saying in ‘Siyar A’lam an-Nubala” (14/34): “It is said: “He was by far the most knowledgable of the scholars regarding the differences of opinion between the scholars.”"

7 - Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned in ‘Sharh al-’Umdah’ (2/75), as did Ibn al-Qayyim in ‘as-Salah’ (p.67), that this is the consensus of the Companions, due to the saying of ‘Umar, in the presence of the Companions, without any of them opposing his saying: “There is no share of Islam for the one who leaves the prayer,” or: “There is no Islam for the one who does not pray.”

8 - With all of this, nobody who says that the one who does not pray is not a disbeliever can find a single Companion who holds their opinion. In fact, they cannot find even a single Tabi’i except az-Zuhri, who was himself a minor Tabi’i.

Ibn Hazm says in ‘al-Muhalla’ (2/242): “We do not know of what we have mentioned from the Companions any difference of opinion amongst them, and the followers of the four madhahib are very eager to hold onto the difference of opinion from a Companion if this is in accordance with their desires. And it has been narrated from ‘Umar, ‘Abdur-Rahman bin ‘Awf, Mu’adh bin Jabal, Abu Hurayrah, and other than them from the Companions that the one who leaves a single obligatory prayer – intentionally and beyond its proper time – then he is a disbelieving apostate.”

And al-Mundhiri mentioned in ‘at-Targhib wat-Tarhib’ (1/393) additional Companions who reported this: “…’Abdullah bin Mas’ud, ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas, Jabir bin ‘Abdillah, and Abu ad-Darda’ – may Allah be pleased with them all.” And from other than the Companions: “…Ahmad bin Hambal, Ishaq bin Rahwiyah, ‘Abdullah bin al-Mubarak, Ibrahim an-Nakha’i, al-Hakam bin ‘Utaybah, Ayyub as-Sakhtiyani, Abu Dawud at-Taylasi, Abu Bakr bin Abi Shaybah, Zuhayr bin Harb, and other than them.”

And this is the saying of the majority of the people of Hadith, and this was the opinion of Sa’id bin Jubayr, al-Hasan al-Basri, al-Awza’i, and Muhammad bin al-Hasan. It is the authentically narrated opinion of ash-Shafi’i, as Ibn Kathir mentioned in his ‘Tafsir’ (in his explanation of verse 59 in ‘Maryam’) and at-Tahawi narrated from ash-Shafi’i personally.

Final benefit: Ibn al-Qayyim said, in ‘as-Salah’: “The Muslims do not disagree that the intentional abandonment of the obligatory prayer is from the greatest and most major of sins, and that the sin of such a person is greater in the Sight of Allah than the sin of the one who commits murder and steals wealth, and commits fornication, and drinks alcohol, and that he is exposing himself to the punishment and anger of Allah, and humiliation in this life and the next.”

 

[cat eyes]

sister you need to marry somebody who will help you with your deen and not drag you down therefore find pious brother instead of one who does not practice and this is best advice i can give. its better for you in the hereafter

 

[distressed]

sister you need to marry somebody who will help you with your deen and not drag you down therefore find pious brother instead of one who does not practice and this is best advice i can give. its better for you in the hereafter

I get it ! but its not gona happen..and ive heaps of pressure on me, and im bein made to feel guilty...stress which i dont need in terms of my health! Ive all the emotions runnin within me, frustration, anger, the lot, wats worst is i wasnt even consulted..! The thing is my family are more bothered about what "will people think" to be honest i couldnt give a crap of wat small minded ignorant ppl think of me ? but hey wat do i do ? Ive had enuf of people bringing me down and making me out to be less of a woman, just cos i dont hav a ring on my finger.

I dont get chance to meet that person or ask q's so i wont get to know how compatible i am ? but again thats not something that i shud be worrying about apparently. the thing is im not ready for marriage i know that within myself, but ive 2 choices, i either stay as i am, and get this headache all the time which i really cant handle or marry sum1 and then get an annulment later..I know its not right..but im really stuck on wat to do!

so im just gona go along with what ever is decided and hopefully i'll get 4giveness from god..for making this huge mistake, thats basically gona ruin my life.

thanks for all the input..Im gona read up on the suggested sources.

D

 

[Ansariyah]

I dont see why people get so dramatic, seriously! We all know that Imaan is always fluctuating, its never the same. If Allah guides someone to pray they'll pray if they want to pray. Theres really no one who loves Allah n Islam n willingly refuses to pray never, there are inner Imaan issues.

We all know that sometimes we are misguided sometimes we need an Imaan boast. I dont understand why we're rulling out all those who don't pray for marriage. Who will help these people if they all rulled out for marriage?

I always hear people asking 'does he pray'? 'does she pray'? How many people pray n still committ sins? I know that our only connection wit Allah is through prayer, thats why I pray...but some people don't know that. They need dawah not a hammer!

 

[cat eyes]

I get it ! but its not gona happen..and ive heaps of pressure on me, and im bein made to feel guilty...stress which i dont need in terms of my health! Ive all the emotions runnin within me, frustration, anger, the lot, wats worst is i wasnt even consulted..! The thing is my family are more bothered about what "will people think" to be honest i couldnt give a crap of wat small minded ignorant ppl think of me ? but hey wat do i do ? Ive had enuf of people bringing me down and making me out to be less of a woman, just cos i dont hav a ring on my finger.

I dont get chance to meet that person or ask q's so i wont get to know how compatible i am ? but again thats not something that i shud be worrying about apparently. the thing is im not ready for marriage i know that within myself, but ive 2 choices, i either stay as i am, and get this headache all the time which i really cant handle or marry sum1 and then get an annulment later..I know its not right..but im really stuck on wat to do!

so im just gona go along with what ever is decided and hopefully i'll get 4giveness from god..for making this huge mistake, thats basically gona ruin my life.

thanks for all the input..Im gona read up on the suggested sources.

D

Pray istikharah. don't just rush in to the marriage! also you need to stop caring what people think.. this is very difficult to do i know sis but you have to try inshallah. when you do that you will be more confident and clear minded to make decisions and you won't feel pressured anymore!

I dont see why people get so dramatic, seriously! We all know that Imaan is always fluctuating, its never the same. If Allah guides someone to pray they'll pray if they want to pray. Theres really no one who loves Allah n Islam n willingly refuses to pray never, there are inner Imaan issues.

We all know that sometimes we are misguided sometimes we need an Imaan boast. I dont understand why we're rulling out all those who don't pray for marriage. Who will help these people if they all rulled out for marriage?

I always hear people asking 'does he pray'? 'does she pray'? How many people pray n still committ sins? I know that our only connection wit Allah is through prayer, thats why I pray...but some people don't know that. They need dawah not a hammer!

Im very disgusted with your remarks sister. the scholars have said chose a practicing bro/sis over a non practicing one. are you going to disagree with the scholars now too? :/

 

[Salahudeen]

I dont see why people get so dramatic, seriously! We all know that Imaan is always fluctuating, its never the same. If Allah guides someone to pray they'll pray if they want to pray. Theres really no one who loves Allah n Islam n willingly refuses to pray never, there are inner Imaan issues.

We all know that sometimes we are misguided sometimes we need an Imaan boast. I dont understand why we're rulling out all those who don't pray for marriage. Who will help these people if they all rulled out for marriage?

I always hear people asking 'does he pray'? 'does she pray'? How many people pray n still committ sins? I know that our only connection wit Allah is through prayer, thats why I pray...but some people don't know that. They need dawah not a hammer!

The reason we are so dramatic is because missing the prayer is a big sin, The Messenger of Allah (saw) has also said: “The difference between us and them is salaah. Whoever neglects it is a kaafir.” [Reported by Imaam Ahmad and the authors of Sunan with a Saheeh isnaad] –

it is no trivial thing to miss the salah, it is one of the pillars and a building can not stand without it's pillars.