Is learning magic haram?

[Ramadhan]

Just curious. What's the connection between magic and World of Warcraft? As far as I have found out, World of Warcraft is just a bunch of pixels. I haven't found anything real in World of Warcraft yet.

I am afraid no one has introduced you to abdullaahi yet
His sense of humour can be...ummm... "different" and off putting to some people who are not used to his jokes. his humour can sometimes be brilliant, though.

 

['Abd Al-Maajid]

His sense of humour can be...ummm... "different" and off putting to some people who are not used to his jokes.

I agree...

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Some magic can eventually heal I have got told. I dunno if it's magic or something else though.

What about reciting Alif Laam Meem while holding someones toes, it's said, that this is a major healing by many sufis.

Assalaamu Alaaykum

The magic that does heal is the one which is done through the shaytaan/devil. This is to misguide one away from Allaah into thinking it is then okay to do something which is forbidden, by disobeying Allaah. Remember Shaytaan is the enemy of mankind. Doing something that is against the Islamic teachings leads one astray, far away from the deen. If Islaam forbids something because it is not good for us we musnt try to make it permissable in any way, to please ourselves or others since we keep looking for excuses. So it is simple, stay away. Only Allaah the pure the allmighty the creator of the creation, believe in him and only seek out to him for help. Like others have said you can do your research but keep away for people who do such stuff, or give Dawah.

 

[Zuzubu]

I see it quite fun to know how to make magic, and I think you know what I mean. But yes, it's wrong. Wanted to clarify if it was haram to learn it without using it.

World of warcraft and magic?

I'll take it serious.

There are ghosts, jinns, magician classes, etc. All these kind of stuff where they use wands and spells to kill others, and where u can fly on a flying carpet connects magic with WOW. But I think it's fine to play it in a game.

But I stopped playing wow (world of warcraft) because it is addicting, and u play for long time each day, which is haram to make a game a lifestyle.

 

[Woodrow]

The word magic encompasses quite a few different things, not all of which are magic. Magic requires a supernatural, non-physical ability or help.

Examples of things that would come under this are:

Fortune Telling
Casting Spells/curses
Numerology
Tarot
Ouija Boards
Magic Healing
(This is an incomplete list, other things may be applicable)

Whether or not if any of those actually exist is of no importance, the fact that a person believes they are doing them and practicing any of them is haram. As these are all forms of/or any combination of: false worship, shirk, idolatry etc. What makes these haram is that in each of them the practitioner is calling upon a power other than Allaah(swt) for help.

some things called magic are not magic these are things such as:

Illusion (this is the common stage "magic" done for entertainment) this typically is not haram unless it is presented as being magic and the viewer is lead to believe it is magic.

Illusions all have physical explanations and can be done by anybody without any supernatural help. These are basically no different than the optical illusion shown in another thread. Nothing more than diversion for the purpose of entertainment.

Of course all things when over done or done with the wrong intent can be haram, even if the act itself is halal. ie It is halal for me to light a fire to cook my food, it is haram if I use the same fire to destroy my neighbors belongings.

 

[Zuzubu]

Of course all things when over done or done with the wrong intent can be haram, even if the act itself is halal. ie It is halal for me to light a fire to cook my food, it is haram if I use the same fire to destroy my neighbors belongings.

What if I use my magic to make my food? And not burn houses.

 

[Ramadhan]

What if I use my magic to make my food? And not burn houses.

After FOUR pages of posts that explained why magic is haram and that it is strictly forbidden, you are still asking this?

How old are you again?

 

[Zuzubu]

After FOUR pages of posts that explained why magic is haram and that it is strictly forbidden, you are still asking this?

How old are you again?

After woodrows post I was asking him. I wasn't talking to you, so speak for yourself etc?.

besides, no one answered my question. They answered a completely diffrent question without good sources like qur'an or hadith.

My question was "IS IT HALAL TO LEARN MAGIC"?

 

[Ramadhan]

After woodrows post I was asking him. I wasn't talking to you, so speak for yourself etc?. besides, no one answered my question. They answered a completely diffrent question without good sources like qur'an or hadith. My question was "IS IT HALAL TO LEARN MAGIC"?

are you blind?

Read these posts again (just click on pages 1, 2 and 3):

yes its haram. why do we need magic even for a 'good' way, there is no good way and its still done through the jinns and shaytans check this out: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/4010/learning magic and http://islamqa.com/en/ref/92810/learning magic

Asalamu Alaykum it's haram please reed this: " And follow that which the devils falsely related against the kingdom of Solomon. Solomon disbelieved not; but the devils disbelieved, teaching mankind magic and that which was revealed to the two angels in Babel, Harut and Marut. Nor did they (the two angels) teach it to anyone till they had said: We are only a temptation, therefore disbelieve not (in the guidance of Allah). And from these two (angles) people learn that by which they cause division between man and wife; but they injure thereby no-one save by Allah's leave. And they learn that which harmeth them and profiteth them not. And surely they do know that he who trafficketh therein will have no (happy) portion in the Hereafter; and surely evil is the price for which they sell their souls, if they but knew" (QS. Al Baqarah:102)

This will help you. http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/11809/

and this is my post which contain a whole lot of qur'an verses and ahadeeths:

Here's the basis why magic is absolutely haram:
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever blows on knots practices magic, and whoever practices magic is a mushrik (polytheist).” (Reported by At-Tabarani)
`Abdullah ibn Mas`ud reported, “Anyone who goes to a diviner, a practitioner of magic or a soothsayer, asking something and believing in what he says, denies what was revealed to Muhammad.” (Reported by Al-Bazzar and Abu Ya`la)
"And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah’s permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.” (Al-Baqarah: 102 )‏
"Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn. From the evil of what He has created. And from the evil of the utterly dark night when it comes. And from the evil of those who blow on knots. And from the evil of the envious when he envies.” (Al-Falaq: 1-5)
“Those who swallow down usury cannot arise except as one whom Shaitan has prostrated by (his) touch does rise. That is because they say, trading is only like usury; and Allah has allowed trading and forbidden usury. To whomsoever then the admonition has come from his Lord, then he desists, he shall have what has already passed, and his affair is in the hands of Allah; and whoever returns (to it)-- these are the inmates of the fire; they shall abide in it.” (Al-Baqarah: 275)
"Verily whoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him and the fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (Polytheists, and wrongdoers) there are no helpers." (QS. Al-Maaidah 5:72)
“The hadd (prescribed punishment) for the practitioner of magic is a blow with the sword (i.e., execution).” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1460; al-Daaraqutni, 3/114; al-Haakim, 4/360; al-Bayhaqi, 8/136; see al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah, 3/641, no. 1446 Muslim narrated in his Saheeh that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.”
And it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by Abu Dawood and by the four authors of al-Sunan;
classed as saheeh by al-Haakim who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller or soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”
And it was narrated that ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “He does not belong to us who observes bird omens or has that done for him, or who seeks divination or who has that done for him, or who practices witchcraft or has that done for him. Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by al-Bazzaar with a jayyid isnaad.

etc..

again, how old are you?

 

[Zuzubu]

I'm 16, but this still dosn't answer my question. Is it halal to learn magic? Not to use magic. Maybe you are old, but you are too stupid to understand english. I guess.

 

[piXie]

My brother zuzubu, may Allaah have mercy upon you.

Please could you tell me,

It is haram to steal but is it halal to learn how to steel?

It is haram to swear but is it halal to learn how to swear?

It is haram to obey the shaytaan but is it halal to learn how to obey the shaytaan?

....etc

 

[Insaanah]

Is it halal to learn magic? Not to use magic.

"Whoever purchases it would have no share of Paradise in the Hereafter." (Qur'an 2:102)

Eternal residence in the fire could only be a punishment for an extremely Haraam action. The verse also proves that the magician as well as one who learns or teaches magic are disbelievers. The phrase, "Whoever purchases it" (i.e. acquires it) is general in it's implications. It includes whoever acquires wealth from teaching it, whoever pays to learn it, or simply who acquires knowledge of it. Allah also referred to magic as Kufr (disbelief) in the phrase: "Verily we are a test so do not commit disbelief" and "It was not Solomon who committed disbelief, it was the devils who disbelieved by teaching the people magic" (Qur'an 2:102)

Both the practice and learning of magic is classified in Islam as Kufr (disbelief).

Source: The Fundamentals of Tawheed by Dr Abu Ameenah Bilal Phillips

 

[Ramadhan]

I'm 16, but this still dosn't answer my question. Is it halal to learn magic? Not to use magic. Maybe you are old, but you are too stupid to understand english. I guess.

I don't think I was either as rude or as dense when I was 16.

Anyone with an elementary intelligence and basic knowledge in english would understand right away that when "associating" in any way with magic is haram, then clearly learning it must be haram also.

But there's always some 16 yo who is too dense and too stubborn (and too rude) to understand that.

And if you still don't believe that previous posts have not answered your "is it halal to learn magic", then you need to go back to page 1, post #2, right after your first post:

yes its haram. why do we need magic even for a 'good' way, there is no good way and its still done through the jinns and shaytans check this out: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/4010/learning magic and http://islamqa.com/en/ref/92810/learning magic

In the http://islamqa.com/en/ref/92810/learning magic it says:

In these two verses there is a warning against learning witchcraft or teaching it, expressed in several ways such as: stating that it is the work of the shaytaan; learning it is kufr that annuls faith; it may result in separation between a man and his wife, which is one of the worst kinds of wrongdoing and corruption on earth; no harm or anything else happens except by the will of Allaah, i.e., His universal will; this learning will harm them and not benefit them; and the one who does that has no share of goodness with Allaah, and this is a very stern warning which should deter anyone from learning or teaching witchcraft; Allaah condemns them for learning this witchcraft as He says “And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves”; and Allaah tells them that this deed annuls faith and piety. From all of the above it is clear to every Muslim how strictly forbidden it is to learn or teach witchcraft, and how much evil and harm there is in it, and in addition to that it is kufr after having believed, and apostasy from Islam. We seek refuge with Allaah from that. So we must beware of it. It is sufficient for the Muslim to treat problems in the manner prescribed in sharee’ah and with permissible remedies, instead of treating it with that which Allaah has forbidden in sharee’ah. And Allaah is the Source of strength. End quote. Majallat al-Da’wah, dated 10/11/1414 AH.

 

[Ramadhan]

My brother zuzubu, may Allaah have mercy upon you. Please could you tell me, It is haram to steal but is it halal to learn how to steel? It is haram to swear but is it halal to learn how to swear? It is haram to obey the shaytaan but is it halal to learn how to obey the shaytaan? ....etc

Very good and clear analogies.
Also, how can you learn magic without practicing it?

 

[Zuzubu]

My brother zuzubu, may Allaah have mercy upon you.

Please could you tell me,

It is haram to steal but is it halal to learn how to steel?

It is haram to swear but is it halal to learn how to swear?

It is haram to obey the shaytaan but is it halal to learn how to obey the shaytaan?

....etc

Haram to learn how to steel (u think u mean steal, but anyways) - No it is not haram, you just grow your intelligence. but it is makhruu to learn unneccesarry stuff.

same with the others

it is not haram to learn it but to practise it.

AND YES, YOU CAN KNOW HOW TO USE MAGIC WITHOUT USING IT. We have control.

Besides, naidamar, it wont allow me to read ur posts, so speak for yourself. =)

 

[Insaanah]

it is not haram to learn it but to practise it.

Did you read this post?

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134304265-learning-magic-haram-4.html#post1421953

The choice is yours.

 

[Zuzubu]

OK thanks, that clarifys it. =)

Eternal residence in the fire could only be a punishment for an extremely Haraam action. The verse also proves that the magician as well as one who learns or teaches magic are disbelievers. The phrase, "Whoever purchases it" (i.e. acquires it) is general in it's implications. It includes whoever acquires wealth from teaching it, whoever pays to learn it, or simply who acquires knowledge of it. Allah also referred to magic as Kufr (disbelief) in the phrase: "Verily we are a test so do not commit disbelief" and "It was not Solomon who committed disbelief, it was the devils who disbelieved by teaching the people magic" (Qur'an 2:102)

 

[Zuzubu]

ur wrong, look at the real translation

[2:102] They pursued what the devils taught concerning Solomon's kingdom. Solomon, however, was not a disbeliever, but the devils were disbelievers. They taught the people sorcery, and that which was sent down through the two angels of Babel, Haroot and Maroot. These two did not divulge such knowledge without pointing out: "This is a test. You shall not abuse such knowledge." But the people used it in such evil schemes as the breaking up of marriages. They can never harm anyone against the will of GOD. They thus learn what hurts them, not what benefits them, and they know full well that whoever practices witchcraft will have no share in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they sell their souls for, if they only knew.

dont use bad translations.

 

[Woodrow]

What if I use my magic to make my food? And not burn houses.

The use of magic (magic not illusion) would mean you are asking a power other than Allaah(swt) to make the food. This seems like it would be similar to praying to Shaitan to make food. Think of magic as praying to some one besides Allaah(swt). Why would one want to learn how to pray to a false god or an idol or to Shaitan?

 

[piXie]

Brother Zuzubu, it seems you are unaware of the nature of this magic and how it is performed.

If by 'learn magic' you mean the 'ability to do magic' then one cannot have this ability unless they become an accomplice with the shaytaan. Magic is done with the help of the shaytaan and an agreement must be formed between the saahir (the magician) and the devils which contains of a lot of shirk and other evil acts. Only then will the person be 'able' to perform magic.

That is why it is haram to be a saahir.

However, if by 'learn magic' you mean learn about its nature, what evil it entails, in order to make yourself and others aware in order to protect yourselves, then this is not haram. Infact, it is recommended.

I advise you to read the book called 'Sword against Black Magic and Evil Magicians by Wahid Abdussalam Bali'

It will clarify the issue of magic further for you inshaa Allaah. May Allaah guide and protect us all.