Re: Music is Haraam
Warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,
I’d like to firstly say that although you try and make logicality of the issue, you fail to understand the point I made above. Perhaps you didn’t read certain posts due to their logicality or what ever reason which is understandable.
i only seek guidance from Allah SWT... whom I submit to ...submit to please Him not the masses!
Good, and so do many.
So Quran is basically the only truth i know for sure..
Doubt does not always stay as being harmless.The shaytan is more deceiving than we presume.
Allah SWT's pure words with absolutely no adultration as Allah Himself promised to save it!!
but the meaning they try to change from time to time to serve their own purposes ..
mostly to prove the ahadiths they are so stubbornly attached to.
Alright perhaps you’re not consciously aware of the implication and the danger of making such statement. People who give out fatwa’s are not your usual brother from the street who lead a double life and wish to only pass ijtihad to make them ‘cool’. We are talking about well versed scholars. So please be wary of what you say. Verily Allah (swt) will hold us to what we have uttered and written which might be fabrication.
These scholars don’t just pass judgment because they had nothing to do. You have to study the deen in depth, and there is so much to do before you even consider passing your ijtihad. Even then you require substantial evidence from Qur’an or hadeeth to back it up.
compared to 1400 + years after the nazool of Quran only 500 + years before Prophet Mohammad( peace be upon him), Allah SWT gave hazarat Esa(PBUH) the prophacy and the BOOK, similar to Quran as Allah SWT says in Quran!!
Sorry but I fail to understand the point you’re trying to make, can you re-phrase it please?
Now I a pretty sure the common people of that time NEVER even thought in their DREAMS that THEIR SCHOLARS could change the words of ALLAH SWT himself from the Holly Book... just like today..
I’m sorry but your point has no valid substance to back it up. Are you accusing well versed scholars of manipulating and altering the meaning of the Qur’an to suit them? Astagfirullah. Perhaps I misunderstood your point.
they made things HARAM for them which ALLAH SWT never did.. making their lives more and more difficult just as Allah SWT said in Quran.
No, there is evidence to prove that music is haram; this does not make the ruling unlawful and contradictory to the teaching because there is evidence. In addition there is a hadeeth where the prophet (pbuh) says that if you’re unsure of something, refrain from it. So would it actually kill us if we listened to what the prophet (pbuh) said? Seriously I don’t think I’d die if I was banned from listening to Eminem or who ever. On the contrary I might use that time to read the Qur’an, get ajar and benefit from it.
NOTE here too Allah is Asking them to bring the BOOK HE revealed as their proof??
Can you refrain from using ayat from the Qur’an which is really irrelevant but is being used simply to emphasize on your ideology please? Barakallahu feek.
anyways the thing for my concern is whether they are going to be excused for something they were not even directly involved in...i mean at that time too the whole authority of DEEN was with the SCHOLARS only ..
so should they be punished for something they were not even part of?
they just beleived what they were told ...
Erm, I don’t understand what you mean.
I disagree; I fail to grasp your point. you think music is halal?
Now for people who say as bukhari being 100% truth ...
No one says that, certain hadeeth’s may not be 100% authentic….depending on what hadeeth we are talking about and who narrated it.
they are making comparing Allah's words with men's...let alone thinkin it is wajib!!
No brother, The prophet (pbuh) used to pray ethneyn (8)rakah for taraweeh and then witr. Nonetheless the prophet’s (pbuh) companion allowed in his time for people to 21/23 rakah’s. Does those mea we’re not following Allah (swt) command?
to me dear all, that is a shirk that i will never submit to, inshahAllah.
Also accusing fellow Muslims as mushreekeen is a very dangerous thing.
Us and them will be responsible for our acts and for NOT THINKING RATIONALLY!
Now I AM NOT DENYING THE IMPORTANCE SUNNAH! ( i know i am shouting this out)
DO NOT try to mix two things here..
I beleive and this belief, by the way too comes from Quran itself ,that whatever Prophet (Mohammad(PBUH)
said and did was nothing BUT Quran!!
his life was nothing but delivering Allah's message and explaining it with his actions and words..so did what his campanians did.
BUT how can someone guarentee that every thing he did and said came absolutly unadultrated to us???
well i have read a lot about he authenticity of the ahadiths and all!!
but the point remains...
The fact of the matter is that the companians most dearest and closest to him never put an effort in recording his sayings but all efforts were made to preserve Quran and QURAN only!!
could there be a reason that while Quran was being compiled in form of a book efforts should have been made to compile all these UTHENTIC AHADITHS in form of a book too??
WHY Allah SWT only promised to preserve and save His book only????
WHAT was the NEED of SAVING The Quran Only??
and above WHAT was the purpose of Quran??
Did anyone even bother reading and thinking over it??
for those who quote ayats of Quran to follow and obey the prophet ..
well whose denying that??
but to follow blindly wiothout thinking that teh message is actually going against what Allah SWT tells us in Quran?
how can we even atribute these thing to prophet PBUH ..
which is actually undermining prophet's himself?
Just to prove we are more worth than any others and oNly who follows US is the one who'll be successfull and none other and go at the lenght of even changing the meaning of Quran just to prov your point!!
WELL who gave you this authority anyways not Allah SWt and then certainly NOT prophet PBUH!!
Are we not EXACTLY following our ansestors,
the prior ahle kitab making sections among our own Ummah each with a SAHIH Hadith backing them and completly deviating from the real message of Allah SWT
"Wae' tae' semoo behablillah e jameeun wala tafarraqoo"
What is this ALLAH'S ROPE but Quran??
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How are we giving Allah SWT His HAQ???
"Say: "Bring forward your witnesses to prove that Allah did forbid so and so." If they bring such witnesses, be not thou amongst them: Nor follow thou the vain desires of such as treat our signs as falsehoods, and such as believe not in the Hereafter: for they hold others as equal with their Guardian-Lord. "
Surah AL-ANAAM verse 150
you think here Allah SWt meant to bring their dead ansesters who misguided them?
and yet again..
"Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge. "
Surah AL-ARAF verse number 33
To be honest I am not qualified to answer most of the questions you have asked. Having said that, I would just like to state that what do you lose from not listening to music?
Anyways, don’t confuse my direct approach to your post as a way of attacking you brother, nor was my aim in this post to make my words seem harsh and cold. It is the month of Ramadan and I hope if I have said anything that may have offended you that you’ll have it in your heart to forgive me. I’m not immune to sinning.
Oh my Lord protect us from the whispering shaytan, guard our hearts from corruptions and never let us stray from the straight path. The path of those you have bestowed favors upon. Make us neither amongst the strayed nor those who earned your anger. Don’t deprive us from your mercy ya rabb.
