is nasheed becoming too modernised?? e. 786

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are nasheeds becoming too mordenised??

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Re: Nasheeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Music. Did the salaf actually know that sound of music may be emulated by synthesizers or even the human's voice?

I mean, for example, if a group of people actually train themselves to sound like the sound of cello and then come together and emulate the sound of a cello. Is that haram too?

I've seen people do some neat tone with glasses filled with water that were filled just enough to give the scale do,re,mi,fa,so,la,ti,do. Is that haram too?

I'm just concerned that on the day of judgement, the salaf's going to say, "We didnt' say that".

Peace.
 
Re: Nasheeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just concerned that on the day of judgement, the salaf's going to say, "We didnt' say that".

well if it has been authentically recorded then how can they say they didnt say it? rem Allah is all Hearing All Seeing
 
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Threads merged.

Please refrain from bringing up the issue of music, as this has already been discussed extensively in other threads, and since we have a forum rule here which states that prolonged arguing over fataawa is not allowed, these threads have been closed.

Please see here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/104487-post216.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/149179-post230.html

I shall leave the thread open if you want to discuss about what you think of nasheeds in general Insha'Allaah.

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Music is haraam, poetry is not. To my knowledge, it is reported that the Sahabah used to recite poetry sometimes.

Ty my knowledge, Anasheed as classified as poetry, then there is nothing wrong with them. But if there are any instruments then that is haraam. Some so-called Islamic Anasheed contain instruments.
 
Asalamualaikum
I think that sami yusuf/786 boys etc dont even need to use instruments in their nasheeds they mashallah have got beautiful voices...i recomend you to lstn to Dawud Wharsny ali and Kamal Uddin i think they av wikd voices mashallah
 
helena said:
Takumi said:
I'm not. By telling other people here in the forum that their music is HARAAM, means that if Zafar and his brother do not make taubah RIGHT NOW, and while driving from work, god forbids he gets in an accident and dies, he has a one way ticket to the hell fire. Because he's still making music. Not only that, 786 is a fitnah spreader right, so if all those people who die while believing that their music is okay, while it's in fact HARAAM, imagine the punishment that he's gonna get. Wow...

And of course, there are a lot of activities in the hell fire.

nd ask: Why am I upset now? is it because i feel threatened because sThat's what HARAAM means.

The burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong. Because, as far as I know, the word HARAAM carries that implication.

If they are committing HARAAM knowingly (since many of us have probably written to them and advised them) and they die, they will be punished right?


I'm not destining them to the hell fire, that's what the definition of HARAAM is.

If we have the audacity to spread the fatwa, we should have the guts to swallow its implication. If not, stop spreading fatwa and research our topic carefully.

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Ur absolutely rite brother, alhamdulilah a very good explanation!! I feel as if i made confliction between brothers and sisters here! Am just trying to see hw people feel about this topic and we as a ummah can solve the matter!! Before it gets too late!!

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I agree with u sis:)
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salaam sis i fink de reason y dere r beginin 2 b bands lyke 786 nd blakstone is bcoz tht is wat the youth of 2day want 2 hear...

Here is Hevens keyz sang bi 2 children @ unity convention (original iz bi 786)


http://www.load-islam.com/swf/MuslimConvention/Nasheed%20(Heaven's%20keys)[www.load-islam.com].mp3


da abov link duznt hav no music in:)
 
I think that all those people that were throwing clothes and asking for autographs at the "Reviving the Islamic Spirit" concert are the ones going a little overboard. A long time ago, just the nasheed was the most important thing at a "concert". But I also think these bands can be good in a way because they make kids turn from song about *candy shops* and there's more of an islamic revival.
 
ye i fink theyre adding drums etc to is coz nowadays nobody owuld pik up anything thts jus voice besides a small minoroty. they probably think its better for them to add music so they pik it up rather than them listening to music...if ne1 gets me lol...
 
Subhan'Allah some of us hav gt it twisted...personally i disagree wid these so callled Nasheeds, i think dat its a contridiction how some 'nasheed singers' (some wold lyk 2 refer as) use da beats of the kufars/ people of the book (immitate dem) bt den u praise Allah within that act of kufr... it might sound a lkl bit harsh bt haqq is haqq nd der r no buts!, maybe! in between... i think that the reason why so called nasheed has gt 2 dis extent is simply bcoz our desires nd us nt bein able 2 controle it! why do we compramise wen it comes dwn 2 music/ instrumental nasheeds we use da yuoth as an excuse wen rly its jst dat we cnt refrain 4rm haram... Alhamdillah, Al'islam teaches us how to control oneself and as muslims we shud no our limitations Insh'Allah
walaykumaslam :thankyou:
 
Asalmaualaikum Warahamtullahi Waabarakatahu,

Best among our Ummah are going to be the brothers and sisters who Enjoin good and Forbid Evil. IF someone is commiting something haraam. Its our duty as in resposibility to correct those people. Especially, If they claim they are Muslims SubhanAllah. Allah swt is going to ask us on the day of judgement. What are we going to answer him?

We didn't do anything because they are too popular? IF we muslims get weak and start listening to these ppl who play 'musical instruments' then I believe we should be ashamed of ourselves. First of All, we are sining and then we don't even feel bad about all these albums comin out which is known to be islamic nasheeds but full of haraam music naudbilllah. Atleast If you are weak to stop the sin we are comitin..we can feel bad in our hearts.

No but there is no Imaan left in our hearts subhanAllah.

Why are we soo weak? we can't stop our own brothers and sisters around the world? I know why we can't stop, because we ourselves don't act upon what we preach. Astagfirullah.

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&QR=20406 (musical istruments are haraam)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&QR=5000

you have no excuse if it is nasheeds/songs which contains musical instruemnts which are not alllowed in Islam.

Forgive me if I said anything wrong, everything ggood is from ALlah swt, and everything bad from me my nafs, and shaytaan.

WAsalmaualaikum Warhamtullahi WAbaraktahu.
 
SalafiFemaleJih said:
Asalmaualaikum Warahamtullahi Waabarakatahu,

Best among our Ummah are going to be the brothers and sisters who Enjoin good and Forbid Evil. IF someone is commiting something haraam. Its our duty as in resposibility to correct those people. Especially, If they claim they are Muslims SubhanAllah. Allah swt is going to ask us on the day of judgement. What are we going to answer him?

We didn't do anything because they are too popular? IF we muslims get weak and start listening to these ppl who play 'musical instruments' then I believe we should be ashamed of ourselves. First of All, we are sining and then we don't even feel bad about all these albums comin out which is known to be islamic nasheeds but full of haraam music naudbilllah. Atleast If you are weak to stop the sin we are comitin..we can feel bad in our hearts.

No but there is no Imaan left in our hearts subhanAllah.

Why are we soo weak? we can't stop our own brothers and sisters around the world? I know why we can't stop, because we ourselves don't act upon what we preach. Astagfirullah.

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&QR=20406 (musical istruments are haraam)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&QR=5000

you have no excuse if it is nasheeds/songs which contains musical instruemnts which are not alllowed in Islam.

Forgive me if I said anything wrong, everything ggood is from ALlah swt, and everything bad from me my nafs, and shaytaan.

WAsalmaualaikum Warhamtullahi WAbaraktahu.
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subhanallah, i was thinking about this subject all day......i too think nasheeds, which include instruments, AREE HARAM....whats makes them different from a good mannered song with instruments????but alot of people think its oK, we must wake up , and not make forbidin things halal...

lets not forget...


Volumn 007, Book 069, Hadith Number 494B.
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Narated By Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari : That he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

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Musical instruments are NOT haram according to Dr Qardhawi and he hasn't retracted his opinion yet.
 
salam,

Beware of things that lead to Allah’s wrath. Appearance of music and stringed instruments is a cause of Allah’s wrath and His chastisement. Aboo Maalik Al-Ash’aree narrated that the Messenger of Allah said, “There will be a group of people among my nation who will drink alcohol calling it by other names and upon their heads stringed instruments will be played and in their presence songstresses will sing, Allah will cause the earth to swallow them and He will turn them into monkeys and pigs.”

W.salam
 
How come many say music is haram as if that was an absolute, final ruling? There are various opinions regarding the permissibility of music, so one shouldn't outright call it haram, especially if one lacks the proper knowledge to make such a claim. One must remember that all will be held acountable for what they say.
As to the subject of the poll, I do think some people (especially Sami Yusuf in "My Ummah") are trying to modernize (or rather "westernize") their music and image, and I don't really feel comfortable with them doing so.
 

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