Is this the so-called HAMAS Humanitarianism?

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Encolpius said:
Aye. And no true Scotsman puts salt on his porridge.
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Don't you mean sugar? I thought salt was an essential part of the porridge experience, while the addition of sugar would have a Scot's sporran leaping off in disgust at its owner!
 
Whats all this talk about the Scots? Anyway do explain what you mean. Are you trying to say that Muslims not hurting peacfull Christians is a false statement
 
^ LoL@the true Scotsman term, that's a new one for me...

Aye, and no true Muslim Scotsman would hurt a peaceful Christian Scotsman...nor would he put sugar in his porridge :P

And that's the truth, laddy :)
 
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And they may take our lives!!!! BUT they cant take our freedom!!!!

This line suits the Palestinians....similarity
 
Assalaamu 3alaikum wa rahmatullaah wa Barakaatuh,
This mass purging of Islamic Organizations within the U.S. should not go unanswered by Muslim populations if not by Muslim governments. If any church is restricted in any way in any Muslim state, the West will have an uproar!.

Western governments cannot define for Muslims who is terrorist and who is not and cannot decide for us which Islamic group the we can give to and which we cannot. Muslims do hard work and earn honest wages which they are entitled to spend as they see fit including donating to their favorites charities.

Hamas is not a terrorist organization by any measure and, in fact, it is filling the void left by the absence of a Palestinian State, providing social welfare to feed and care for needy Palestinians, running schools, orphanages and other vital services in the occupied land.

Muslims citizens have the right to give to Islamic Relief and Charity organizations just as Christian citizens give to Christian churches and Evangelical missions. Furthermore, Islamic Relief organizations have an obligation and the right to send aid to suffering and needy Muslims overseas just as the multitude of Christian churches and missionary organizations fund thousands of Christianizing campaigns in Africa, Asia and even in the Muslim World.

Since the majority of Islamic Relief Organizations have been closed down or curtailed here in the U.S., Muslim populations must respond with equal force to purge any Christian mission in Muslim states and Muslim governments must also monitor Christian churches operating in their land to make sure they do not fund Christian terrorist activities or Christianizing missions in the Muslim World.



from Bahjat
 
^ This is true. I posted an article on this in the world affairs section but it didn't get posted...yet. Idunno what's taking so long. Anyways, it's true that the US is preventing Islamic relief organizations from operating under the pretense that they are helping what they label as a "terrorist" organization. Their double standards are getting boring, especially given the fact that Fatah itself in not innocent of some of the same actions that led to Hamas being called terrorists.
 
Yep, sure, HAMAS is a humanitory organisation, riiiiight ? Or give me another reason, why this HAMAS member is dragging this kid so brutally?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jorVh3gQ_AQ[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLLWYXXP4tA[/media]
 
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With regards to ^

a) there is no indication that these are Hamas militants
b) you don't know what's going on in the first clip
c) or the second one, but it seems that Israel is attacking Palestinian women :S
d) Hamas are not a humanitarian organization
e) are the videos supposed to have sound? ...cuz I got no sound
 
Skywalker said:
With regards to ^

a) there is no indication that these are Hamas militants
b) you don't know what's going on in the first clip
c) or the second one, but it seems that Israel is attacking Palestinian women :S
d) Hamas are not a humanitarian organization
e) are the videos supposed to have sound? ...cuz I got no sound
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to c. : There were just some Hamas Gunmen hidden in the crowd of protesting women to shoot at israeli soldiers. They use the women to protect themselves.
I call that human shield !

to d. : My fault, I mistyped, it should mean 'HAMAS Humanitarianism'

to e. : The first has no sound, but the second has !
 
There is no doubt that within Hamas there people with wrong ideas. However this is a minute amount. You see when you have right minded people as your head, your body tends to work in a right minded way. Sure Hamas have done things, terrible things, but this is nothing compared to the terrible things the Israeli army hav done.
 
guyabano said:
to c. : There were just some Hamas Gunmen hidden in the crowd of protesting women to shoot at israeli soldiers. They use the women to protect themselves.
I call that human shield !
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It looked to me like the women were out protesting out of their own will. It didn't look like anybody was forcing them to go out. I didn't see anybody hiding among them though.

to d. : My fault, I mistyped, it should mean 'HAMAS Humanitarianism'
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Gotcha. Nevertheless, point 'a' still stands.

to e. : The first has no sound, but the second has !
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Nooooo! Then there's smth wrong with my pc....grrrrrrr

SATalha said:
There is no doubt that within Hamas there people with wrong ideas. However this is a minute amount. You see when you have right minded people as your head, your body tends to work in a right minded way. Sure Hamas have done things, terrible things, but this is nothing compared to the terrible things the Israeli army hav done.
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I think it's also worth mentioning that there are people in the US army who have raped Iraqi civilians, tortured, humiliated, and massacred little children...but does that mean that the US army in general is evil like those soldiers?

I think Hamas have a bigger problem controlling their ranks than they would care to admit. This does not however mean that any of them would be stupid enough to do what this thread claims they did.
 
Skywalker said:
I think it's also worth mentioning that there are people in the US army who have raped Iraqi civilians, tortured, humiliated, and massacred little children...but does that mean that the US army in general is evil like those soldiers?

I think Hamas have a bigger problem controlling their ranks than they would care to admit. This does not however mean that any of them would be stupid enough to do what this thread claims they did.
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Bravo. That was the point what I wanted to be understood. There is in every army a few troublemakers but they do not represent the whole army globally seen. Some people here on the forum tend to use a glimpse of a moment to expose a whole nation as evildoers.
I may not be friend of George Bush's politics, but US Forces certainly do no harm in Iraq. Small glitches are always fast exposed by the news agencies as a big mediashows
 
I think that it's well-known that there are some very good and decent people in the US army. Some have even gone to the extent of publically opposing the political decisions made by their leaders, like that one Hawaiian officer a few months back. There are also those who exposed the atrocities being done at Abu Ghraib.

As for whether the actions of a few evil ones reflecting on the rest of the nation, that lies in the nation's reaction to the events. Do they condemn the actions and hold the people responsible, or do they let it go and commend them?

In the case of this thread, this point is irrelevant due to the lack of evidence that the attacks that took place had anything to do with Hamas. In fact, Hamas have clearly stated that this was not done by then.
 
Why don't they just leave and go to Egypt? There is certainly a sizable christian population in Egypt. They should be safe there.
 
Here are some interesting new developments...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_hamas

I think this should be of some significance...

• Stop Six. A Roman Catholic church.

A Hamas minder tried to stop a reporter from asking Father Manuel Musallam, Gaza's only Catholic priest, about who was behind the ransacking of a Catholic convent and nearby school during June's Hamas-Fatah fighting. Musallam answered anyway, saying Haniyeh had offered his support in finding the perpetrators. "We suffer with them, but we haven't suffered from them," the priest said of Hamas and Gaza's other Muslim inhabitants. Still, a number of Gaza's 3,000 Christians have privately expressed concern about Hamas' intentions. (notice they don't say their actions)
 
Skywalker said:
Here are some interesting new developments...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_hamas

I think this should be of some significance...

• Stop Six. A Roman Catholic church.

A Hamas minder tried to stop a reporter from asking Father Manuel Musallam, Gaza's only Catholic priest, about who was behind the ransacking of a Catholic convent and nearby school during June's Hamas-Fatah fighting. Musallam answered anyway, saying Haniyeh had offered his support in finding the perpetrators. "We suffer with them, but we haven't suffered from them," the priest said of Hamas and Gaza's other Muslim inhabitants. Still, a number of Gaza's 3,000 Christians have privately expressed concern about Hamas' intentions. (notice they don't say their actions)
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It is an interesting read. I recomend it for a full picture. I did pick up on a comment in the article.
The tour was colorful and revealing — a glimpse into how the Islamic militants see themselves and want to be seen.
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If you didn't pick up on "Hamas minder", :mmokay: I did.
A minder is there to ensure that you don't see anything or anything they don't want you to see. :?
Anyone who would give negative information in front of a "minder" would be putting themselves at serious risk.
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al-muslimah said:
May Allah give HAMAS more victories alhamdulillah they now control Gaza.They are more worth than Fatah and that traitor Mahmud Abbas.Mashallah they are very good and strong too. The Jews are so scared now they have ran out of depression pills and many people have stopped immigrating to " Isreal "No such thing as Isreal its a zionist state. Chosen people:phew Yeah right. They were until they started massacring their prophets and changed Allah's words and laws in the torah and made what was halal haram and vice versa.Good job HAMAS:thumbs_up
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Ameen thumma ameen!
 

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