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Actually brother, there is dispute about this. Some scholars argue that the Quran says it NEVER happened and that accounts of it were from hearsay and mixups. Some argue like you said.
But they all agree that he was saved from the indignity of the cross.
But they all agree that he was saved from the indignity of the cross.
Peace be upon all
First:
lately I was about to travel back to my country but subhaan Allah ,the plan stopped at the last step ....
I hope now I should be stable and will begin to seek my second half inshaAllah....
May Allah lead me and you all to the right decision ameen !...
happy to be with you all again ...
Second:
nicely,I found new threads in the section which is of much interest to me(I wrote a book on such issues in Arabic) ,and this thread is one of them.....
Greetings, 1989_2008 ,or may be should I call you 19?
The common concept that Muslims believe ,is the one mentioned by Bro TKTony,It was someone in his(pbuh) likeness on the cross!!!!!
Is there any Quranic hint on it?
not the slightest.
as a matter of fact the linguistic structure of the verse would put such concept (if assumed) upside down, and instead of someone substituting Jesus ,Jesus would substitute someone else !!!
this concept is mere a tradition that obviously came from the Gnostic concept of crucifixion...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_Apocalypse_of_Peter
"He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."
*more to say in this point later,depending on the reaction of the readers*
Those Muslims who argue that Jesus been crucified but escaped the cross are following the opinion of Qadiani sect and also the opinion of Ahmed Deedat ..who argue in his book (crucifixion) the same ...
The weakness of such opinion is found in the verse itself (they neither killed him nor crucified him)
the exact same verse highlight the weakness of the common concept of (the substitution ) (IT was appeared to them so )
the word (nor crucified him) refutes the Ahmadia concept..
(it affirms Jesus not only never killed but never been put in a cross as well)
and the word (It) in the same exact verse,refutes the substitution theory!!!!..
(there is no way but to render the pronoun as It not he)
Subhaan Allah......
First:
lately I was about to travel back to my country but subhaan Allah ,the plan stopped at the last step ....
I hope now I should be stable and will begin to seek my second half inshaAllah....
May Allah lead me and you all to the right decision ameen !...
happy to be with you all again ...
Second:
nicely,I found new threads in the section which is of much interest to me(I wrote a book on such issues in Arabic) ,and this thread is one of them.....
I always thought that in Islam, Isa wasn't crucified at all... but recently a Muslim friend told me he did suffer on the cross, but Allah rescued him JUST before he died.
Which do most Muslims believe?
Greetings, 1989_2008 ,or may be should I call you 19?
The common concept that Muslims believe ,is the one mentioned by Bro TKTony,It was someone in his(pbuh) likeness on the cross!!!!!
Is there any Quranic hint on it?
not the slightest.
as a matter of fact the linguistic structure of the verse would put such concept (if assumed) upside down, and instead of someone substituting Jesus ,Jesus would substitute someone else !!!
this concept is mere a tradition that obviously came from the Gnostic concept of crucifixion...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_Apocalypse_of_Peter
"He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."
*more to say in this point later,depending on the reaction of the readers*
Those Muslims who argue that Jesus been crucified but escaped the cross are following the opinion of Qadiani sect and also the opinion of Ahmed Deedat ..who argue in his book (crucifixion) the same ...
The weakness of such opinion is found in the verse itself (they neither killed him nor crucified him)
the exact same verse highlight the weakness of the common concept of (the substitution ) (IT was appeared to them so )
the word (nor crucified him) refutes the Ahmadia concept..
(it affirms Jesus not only never killed but never been put in a cross as well)
and the word (It) in the same exact verse,refutes the substitution theory!!!!..
(there is no way but to render the pronoun as It not he)
Subhaan Allah......
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IF Jesus was not crucified like Muslims claim, than why do the Roman records say otherwise? Why do writers like Josephus and Sutonias say that he was? Why did Joesph of Ariamthea ask for his body and offer his own tomb if it was not Christ himself on the cross? Mary was at the crucicifxion as well I think being a mother myself she would have known instinctivly that it was not her son on the cross, just something hardwired in us. God does not decieve and the idea that God would show others the likeness of Christ on the cross suggested that he does.
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You should check out these verses in the Bible then.
Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and
shut their eyes; lest they see with their hearts... and convert, and be
healed. Isaiah 6:10
But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, so that he would not let the
Children of Israel go. Exodus 10:21
Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not
see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted. Jon 12:361
And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and
the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, so that he would not let the children of
Israel go out of his land. Exodus 11:10
I got more, but this should be sufficient.
Greetings,
you say in other words,that you think Jesus was really crucified cause of:
1/ The bible says so.
If you think that the gospel narratives to be trustworthy in the crucifiction narrative then I invite you to read such thread to see how the biblical case in such serious point is very shaky...
http://www.islamicboard.com/compara...hy-jews-dont-believe-jesus-2.html#post1065593
http://www.islamicboard.com/compara...hy-jews-dont-believe-jesus-3.html#post1068347
(any rebuttals from you to my refutations there is very welcome).
2/ Josephus say so.
I wouldnt make a big deal about how the bible critics dashed the Testimonium Flavianum of Josephus to pieces as here http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html
but I would tell you a word......
we as Muslims (and any serious truth seeker),if we assume the Testimonium Flavianum to be true,would ask:
where did he get such specific information from?
eyewitnesses? if so then who?
if from the christians living the time he wrote,then no wonder as we already know that some sects of them believed the hearsay...
one last important note":
What if jesus been crucified and the Quran says jesus was crucified?
welcome for such concept,we have no problem for a prophet that been executed.....
the real problem I have explained here before
http://www.islamicboard.com/compara...rmony-between-bible-quran-13.html#post1134920
peace for you
TKTony said:
Jazak Allah Khyran Bro TKTony I feel proud and happy of those nonArab Muslims who try the best to stick to Islamic teaching in spite of all the corrupted atmosphere of morals around them which is a normal result of atheism and its material beliefs and the christian dangerous believe in blood atonement that corrupted generations after generations !!!..
next posts inshAllah I post more details in the thread topic
peace
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I hadn't been here for such a long time. I've been out of the city since last month and have no access to the internet. I will have to review again all of the posts and threads that I had left behind. This topic seems interesting cause I had read about the crucifixion event in a Quranic commentary in Indonesian. I will try bringing it in here into English for other viewers sharing.
Brother Imam, when will you publish your book? Too bad, I'm in Malaysia, I'm actually a translator. If I can get to read your book, understand it and translate it into our native language for others benefit, that will be an honor for me.
I hadn't been here for such a long time. I've been out of the city since last month and have no access to the internet. I will have to review again all of the posts and threads that I had left behind. This topic seems interesting cause I had read about the crucifixion event in a Quranic commentary in Indonesian. I will try bringing it in here into English for other viewers sharing.
Brother Imam, when will you publish your book? Too bad, I'm in Malaysia, I'm actually a translator. If I can get to read your book, understand it and translate it into our native language for others benefit, that will be an honor for me.
We Arabs are honored with non-Arab Muslims as you.....
your post touched a pain of my heart !!!
it is my wish to translate from Arabic to English a huge amount of important Arabic Islamic books which is not available yet online....
lots of occasions I had while posting to translate and quote such excellent books..and I think truly the English Islamic library still lack lots of important books....
translation is a hard task indeed and needs cooperative efforts.....I thought once of making a thread asking English native speakers to cooperate with me in translating some books....... and allocate the book every one with his share of pages..me 10 another 5 another 7 etc...
So you can translate from Arabic to Indonesian,Malysian? which language you find more easy to translate to Indonesian,Malysian ,Arabic or English?
If Arabic I can PM you with the book..If English I'm going inshaAllah to discuss the book in the thread in English....
I met lots of Indonesians,Malaysians in Cairo ...and had class mates in Al-Azhar University ,from Indonesia and Malaysia.......
believe me when I tell you ,though the University filled with Muslims from All around the world but I found Indonesians,Malaysians to be more ambitious , serious,pious
and were astonished when I saw how fast they learn Arabic !!!!
they have hunger for knowledge and Every time I visited Cairo International book fair... and get into the Islamic books section used to see the Indonesian,Malaysian students (especially the girls) fill the place and buy books which is very huge and profound and not class books they have to study,but only to improve their knowledge !!! subhaan Allah !!!
May Allah increase such good Indonesian,MAlysian Muslims as you and Sis syilla too ,Ameen....
next posts int the topic inshAllah ..after I finish some posts in the Messiah thread inshaAllah..
peace
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the writing of Josephus (100) c.e contain two passages,, the longer one a christian interpolation, for its glowing description is one no orthodox jew would accept -- the second passage has been scrutinized by Schuror, Zahn, von Dobschutz, juster and other scholars, and they regarded the words ''the brother of Jesus, him called christ; as a further interpolation ...
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BTW thanks for the INRI inscription on your link denoting 'Jesus king of the Jews' a further substantiation that Jesus(p) was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and that the efforts of 'saul' /paul were nothing more than a corruption of the message of God which was to be upheld by Jesus!
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the Islamic view.
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Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear brother, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.
As regards your question, the late Sheikh Jadul-Haq `Ali Jadul-Haq, former Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, states the following:
"Allah Almighty has told us of the end of Jesus (peace be upon him) in three surahs in the Qur’an that came as follows:
1) In surat Al `Imran, we read: “When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: ‘Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?’ Said the disciples: ‘We are Allah’s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims. Our Lord! We believe in what Thou hast revealed, and we follow the Messenger; then write us down among those who bear witness.’ And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah. Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee (mutawaffika) and raise thee to Myself (wa rafi`uka ilayya) and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.’” (Al `Imran: 52-55)
2) Also in surat An-Nisa’, Allah says: “That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah’; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself (bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 157-158)
3) Again in surat Al-Ma’idah, we read: “And behold! Allah will say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?’ He will say: ‘Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up (tawaffaytani) Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things’.” (Al-Ma’idah: 116-117)
The Arabic word “mutawaffika” is derived from the root “tawaffa” and is referred always in the Qur’an as meaning “to cause someone to die”. However, the word originally means “taking”. One says: “tawaffaytu min fulanin ma liya `alayhi”. Meaning: “I have taken back my debt from so and so”. It also means “To make someone fall asleep”. This meaning is mentioned in the Qur’anic verse that reads: “It is He who doth take your souls (yatawaffakum) by night, and hath knowledge of all that ye have done by day: by day doth He raise you up (yab`athukum) again; that a term appointed be fulfilled; In the end unto Him will be your return; then will He show you the truth of all that ye did.” (Al-An`am: 60)
In this verse the word “yatawaffakum” means “make you fall asleep during the night”. In the same context, the word “yab`athukum” (revive or quicken you) is used to refer to the meaning that He awakens you during the day. Based on the above, we can say that the words “mutawaffika”and “tawaffaytani” may mean “made you fall asleep” and “when you made me fall asleep”. (See: Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah,vol. 4, pp. 322-323 and Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah by Ibn Kathir, vol. 2 p. 91)
The Explanation of the phrases “bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi” and “wa rafi`uka ilayya”:
The majority of the exegetes of the Qur’an are of the view that the two phrases refer to Jesus’ ascension to the heavens and the first phrase “bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi” is an assertion of the fulfillment of Allah’s promise to him that He would make him ascend to the heavens.
The ascension referred to in the Qur’an includes both material and non-material aspects. Non-material here means ascension in place and honor (giving a high place and lofty status). Since we are to accept the idea of ascension as a way of saving Jesus from his archenemies, we are to say there must have been real death or sleeping that preceded the process of ascension. Modern scientific research has shown that the higher man ascends the more constricted his chest becomes and the more difficult it is for him to breathe. Allah says, “Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide, He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying, He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.” (Al-An`am: 125) By the same token, taking Jesus up while still awake would have inflicted hardship on him.
All in all, Allah Almighty has taken Jesus up and saved him from killing and crucifixion. In other words, he either made him die (tawaffah) or made him fall asleep (tawaffah). All this was meant to save him from the pains he might have been subjected to in case he was taken up while still awake. Also, the meaning may be that he was taken up while still alive.
After this quick review of these Qur’anic verses, we come to know that scholars hold different views on this very issue.
The Preponderant View:
The view I find myself inclined to is that Allah Almighty has taken Jesus up from among his enemies, rescuing him from them. Hence, they neither killed nor crucified him as Christians claim. His enemies were in fact confused with regards to him. At any rate, he was saved, but how? We do not know.
The Qur’anic verses do not point out the way he was saved and, with a case like this, we are to remain silent and pose no more questions about the matter since this will get us nowhere. What is really established is that Allah Almighty did not allow the Jews to arrest Jesus nor to crucify him. It is also well clarified by the verses that Jesus found an escape and was taken up to heavens. Allah says: “For of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself ( bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 157-158)
What Muslims should believe in:
A sound belief of every Muslim should be that Jesus was taken up and saved from killing and crucifixion. Anyone who believes in the idea that Jesus was killed and crucified can no longer be called a Muslim.
As for Jesus’ being taken up, whether dead or alive and the nature of the life he is now leading, scholars hold different views in this regard, as this is not decisively established in the Qur’an. The majority of scholars adopt the view that Jesus is still alive in the heavens and leading a life the nature of which we do not really know.
Jesus’ Return:
The general implication of the narrations in the books of Sunnah is that Jesus will come back in the end calling for Islam and application of the Shari`ah. In Fath Al-Bari, (vol. 6, pp. 490-494), we read that Abu Hurayrah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) said: “By the One in Whose hand is my soul! The Son of Mary is about to come back as a just ruler who will break the cross, kill the swine and cancel the tribute, and money will be so great in amount that no one will be in need of it and one act of prostration will be more lovable to a person than the whole world and every thing in it.” Then, Abu Hurayrah recited: “And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them.” (An-Nisa’: 159) In his Sahih, Imam Muslim reported this hadith with the addition: “…and kill the Dajjal (Anti-Christ).””
Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, adds:
“Allah Almighty has mentioned to us that Jesus was taken up to the heavens and said: “Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself (bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 158) He mentioned not that he has come back to the earth. Those who claim that he has come back to earth are asked to offer evidence for their claims. If they are not able to bring about any evidence, they are to know that their claims are groundless.
Allah also says: “Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee (mutawaffika) and raise thee to Myself (wa rafi`uka ilayya) and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.’” (Al `Imran: 52-55)
Ibn Jarir states: “(mutawaffika) here refers to his ascension”. Other scholars, however, say that it refers to sleeping as is the case with the verse that reads: “It is He who doth take your souls (yatawaffakum) by night, and hath knowledge of all that ye have done by day: by day doth He raise you up again; that a term appointed be fulfilled; In the end unto Him will be your return; then will He show you the truth of all that ye did.” (Al-An`am: 60)
On getting up, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to say: “Praise be to Allah Who brought us life after he caused us to die and unto Him will be our turning back.”
Therefore, Jesus did not die; rather, he was taken up when the Jews tried to arrest and kill him and he will come back at the end of the time and rule the land with Islam. He will live till Allah causes him to die and will be offered funeral prayer by Muslims.”
You can also read:
Status of Prophet `Isa (Jesus): Islamic View
Facts about the Second Coming of Jesus
Name of Questioner
Abu Muadz
Title
Prophet `Isa’s (Jesus) Ascension
Question
As-Salamu `alaykum! Please kindly furnish us with Islamic ruling concerning the ascension of Prophet `Isa (peace be upon him) and his coming back to life? Jazakum Allah khayran!
Date
31/Mar/2004
Name of Counsellor
Topic
Muslim Belief
Answer
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear brother, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.
As regards your question, the late Sheikh Jadul-Haq `Ali Jadul-Haq, former Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, states the following:
"Allah Almighty has told us of the end of Jesus (peace be upon him) in three surahs in the Qur’an that came as follows:
1) In surat Al `Imran, we read: “When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: ‘Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?’ Said the disciples: ‘We are Allah’s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims. Our Lord! We believe in what Thou hast revealed, and we follow the Messenger; then write us down among those who bear witness.’ And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah. Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee (mutawaffika) and raise thee to Myself (wa rafi`uka ilayya) and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.’” (Al `Imran: 52-55)
2) Also in surat An-Nisa’, Allah says: “That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah’; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself (bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 157-158)
3) Again in surat Al-Ma’idah, we read: “And behold! Allah will say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?’ He will say: ‘Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up (tawaffaytani) Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things’.” (Al-Ma’idah: 116-117)
The Arabic word “mutawaffika” is derived from the root “tawaffa” and is referred always in the Qur’an as meaning “to cause someone to die”. However, the word originally means “taking”. One says: “tawaffaytu min fulanin ma liya `alayhi”. Meaning: “I have taken back my debt from so and so”. It also means “To make someone fall asleep”. This meaning is mentioned in the Qur’anic verse that reads: “It is He who doth take your souls (yatawaffakum) by night, and hath knowledge of all that ye have done by day: by day doth He raise you up (yab`athukum) again; that a term appointed be fulfilled; In the end unto Him will be your return; then will He show you the truth of all that ye did.” (Al-An`am: 60)
In this verse the word “yatawaffakum” means “make you fall asleep during the night”. In the same context, the word “yab`athukum” (revive or quicken you) is used to refer to the meaning that He awakens you during the day. Based on the above, we can say that the words “mutawaffika”and “tawaffaytani” may mean “made you fall asleep” and “when you made me fall asleep”. (See: Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah,vol. 4, pp. 322-323 and Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah by Ibn Kathir, vol. 2 p. 91)
The Explanation of the phrases “bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi” and “wa rafi`uka ilayya”:
The majority of the exegetes of the Qur’an are of the view that the two phrases refer to Jesus’ ascension to the heavens and the first phrase “bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi” is an assertion of the fulfillment of Allah’s promise to him that He would make him ascend to the heavens.
The ascension referred to in the Qur’an includes both material and non-material aspects. Non-material here means ascension in place and honor (giving a high place and lofty status). Since we are to accept the idea of ascension as a way of saving Jesus from his archenemies, we are to say there must have been real death or sleeping that preceded the process of ascension. Modern scientific research has shown that the higher man ascends the more constricted his chest becomes and the more difficult it is for him to breathe. Allah says, “Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide, He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying, He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.” (Al-An`am: 125) By the same token, taking Jesus up while still awake would have inflicted hardship on him.
All in all, Allah Almighty has taken Jesus up and saved him from killing and crucifixion. In other words, he either made him die (tawaffah) or made him fall asleep (tawaffah). All this was meant to save him from the pains he might have been subjected to in case he was taken up while still awake. Also, the meaning may be that he was taken up while still alive.
After this quick review of these Qur’anic verses, we come to know that scholars hold different views on this very issue.
The Preponderant View:
The view I find myself inclined to is that Allah Almighty has taken Jesus up from among his enemies, rescuing him from them. Hence, they neither killed nor crucified him as Christians claim. His enemies were in fact confused with regards to him. At any rate, he was saved, but how? We do not know.
The Qur’anic verses do not point out the way he was saved and, with a case like this, we are to remain silent and pose no more questions about the matter since this will get us nowhere. What is really established is that Allah Almighty did not allow the Jews to arrest Jesus nor to crucify him. It is also well clarified by the verses that Jesus found an escape and was taken up to heavens. Allah says: “For of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself ( bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 157-158)
What Muslims should believe in:
A sound belief of every Muslim should be that Jesus was taken up and saved from killing and crucifixion. Anyone who believes in the idea that Jesus was killed and crucified can no longer be called a Muslim.
As for Jesus’ being taken up, whether dead or alive and the nature of the life he is now leading, scholars hold different views in this regard, as this is not decisively established in the Qur’an. The majority of scholars adopt the view that Jesus is still alive in the heavens and leading a life the nature of which we do not really know.
Jesus’ Return:
The general implication of the narrations in the books of Sunnah is that Jesus will come back in the end calling for Islam and application of the Shari`ah. In Fath Al-Bari, (vol. 6, pp. 490-494), we read that Abu Hurayrah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) said: “By the One in Whose hand is my soul! The Son of Mary is about to come back as a just ruler who will break the cross, kill the swine and cancel the tribute, and money will be so great in amount that no one will be in need of it and one act of prostration will be more lovable to a person than the whole world and every thing in it.” Then, Abu Hurayrah recited: “And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them.” (An-Nisa’: 159) In his Sahih, Imam Muslim reported this hadith with the addition: “…and kill the Dajjal (Anti-Christ).””
Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, adds:
“Allah Almighty has mentioned to us that Jesus was taken up to the heavens and said: “Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself (bal Rafa`ahu Allahu ilayhi); and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (An-Nisa’: 158) He mentioned not that he has come back to the earth. Those who claim that he has come back to earth are asked to offer evidence for their claims. If they are not able to bring about any evidence, they are to know that their claims are groundless.
Allah also says: “Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee (mutawaffika) and raise thee to Myself (wa rafi`uka ilayya) and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.’” (Al `Imran: 52-55)
Ibn Jarir states: “(mutawaffika) here refers to his ascension”. Other scholars, however, say that it refers to sleeping as is the case with the verse that reads: “It is He who doth take your souls (yatawaffakum) by night, and hath knowledge of all that ye have done by day: by day doth He raise you up again; that a term appointed be fulfilled; In the end unto Him will be your return; then will He show you the truth of all that ye did.” (Al-An`am: 60)
On getting up, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to say: “Praise be to Allah Who brought us life after he caused us to die and unto Him will be our turning back.”
Therefore, Jesus did not die; rather, he was taken up when the Jews tried to arrest and kill him and he will come back at the end of the time and rule the land with Islam. He will live till Allah causes him to die and will be offered funeral prayer by Muslims.”
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Status of Prophet `Isa (Jesus): Islamic View
Facts about the Second Coming of Jesus
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It would be really interesting if you quote me from the link I provided you and the relevant material that may rebut me from the link you just posted here....
I like it when the person speak of him,herself and make direct two sided discussion...
why you prefer to only copy and paste links that irrelevant to my arguments?!
I wish you get to a real discussion with me ,and don't worry,I'm usually descent while discussion....
Just try me
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We Arabs are honored with non-Arab Muslims as you.....
your post touched a pain of my heart !!!
it is my wish to translate from Arabic to English a huge amount of important Arabic Islamic books which is not available yet online....
lots of occasions I had while posting to translate and quote such excellent books..and I think truly the English Islamic library still lack lots of important books....
translation is a hard task indeed and needs cooperative efforts.....I thought once of making a thread asking English native speakers to cooperate with me in translating some books....... and allocate the book every one with his share of pages..me 10 another 5 another 7 etc...
So you can translate from Arabic to Indonesian,Malysian? which language you find more easy to translate to Indonesian,Malysian ,Arabic or English?
If Arabic I can PM you with the book..If English I'm going inshaAllah to discuss the book in the thread in English....
I met lots of Indonesians,Malaysians in Cairo ...and had class mates in Al-Azhar University ,from Indonesia and Malaysia.......
believe me when I tell you ,though the University filled with Muslims from All around the world but I found Indonesians,Malaysians to be more ambitious , serious,pious
and were astonished when I saw how fast they learn Arabic !!!!
they have hunger for knowledge and Every time I visited Cairo International book fair... and get into the Islamic books section used to see the Indonesian,Malaysian students (especially the girls) fill the place and buy books which is very huge and profound and not class books they have to study,but only to improve their knowledge !!! subhaan Allah !!!
May Allah increase such good Indonesian,MAlysian Muslims as you and Sis syilla too ,Ameen....
next posts int the topic inshAllah ..after I finish some posts in the Messiah thread inshaAllah..
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Salam and greeting brother Imam,
I think that it is a good idea if you also make an English translation of your book although I actually prefer Arabic texts and I have no problem with Arabic language texts. I also love to see every Muslim speaking only in Arabic when we are among each other, but now we still need English and strengthening our Arabic language. Pray Allah to make Arabic easy for us all, Insya-Allah.
The books in English about Islamic Creed and related to Islam are very scarce and most of the books about Islam are written by Orientalists with their review, I don't like that and I guess others too don't like that.
We need real Muslim writers to write the book itself in English and also native English speaker Muslims to write about anything related to our religion. We have to be more aggressive because many people still need correct information about us. For now, I'm working on to translate our local Muslim scholars' books into English from Arabic script Malay texts too. I had almost finished two books translation about Tasawwuf and local Muslim scholars and figures. I hope they would be beneficial for other Muslims and non-Muslims and we can manage a link of co-operation among Muslims from different regions in the term of knowledge and the spreading of Islamic knowledge.
About your book, I'm interested to read it both in Arabic and English, the major topic and theme themselves are interesting. I agree that you also seek other native English speaker Muslims help to translate your book. I am majoring in Malay and English so I guess, it will be no problem for me translating from English to Malaysian Malay. It's also ok if you only have Arabic book for the time-being. Arabic and Malay have no major differences because we are familiar with Quranic Arabic here. I may seek help and co-operation from our teachers in the mosques and universities if I have problem with translation. I would love to be the first translating the book into Malaysian Malay if possible and hope that the book could also being translated into other languages
, May Allah help and guide us in the term of Da'awa, Insya-Allah.
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