ISIS Introduces Real Money

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Creating a currency is not okay. They have no economic stability. This is like drafting constitution for Martians and Humans when we have not even encountered Martians yet. If they have no economic stability nor gain any currency they make is useless. It is just a matter of jumping too far ahead
I was talking in context of effect of what ISIS do toward other people, and through point of view of someone who is not living in their territory. Currency that ISIS has created does not cause problem for other people.

Their currency will never be useless, since it's commodity-based, not fiat money. The value of the money doesn't follow from the fact that ISIS says so, but from the precious metal content in the coins. If ISIS were to collapse, the coins would still have value, since their owners could just melt them down to get the precious metals, or sell them to someone who does.
I guess, collectors are willing to buy ISIS coin higher than its intrinsic value.
 
I read somewhere that the heaviest gold coin is worth around 700 US dollars.
 
How stable is the value of gold? Does it fluctuate as much as or not as much as standard currencies like the USD and Euro?
 
Are you seriously siding with a group like ISIS? This is horrible.
Creating a currency to rival the Dinar is like using a Rupee to compete with the USDs. It is just ludicrous and has economic failure written all over it. Look at how currency creation came about during Europe after WWII. It was a total disaster as countries tried to secure economic stability and much of this is still left in Europe.
Whoever the leader of ISIS is must obviously be a moron if he thinks creating a rival currency will do any good. Without exchange that coin is worth nothing. The Arab nations rely on exportation of goods to maintain their currency and we all know that is oil.
ISIS won't be creating Kuwaiti Dinars anytime soon

Well, microcosm examples of gold and silver minted currency already exists and is traded with in parts of Indonesia already - so to say that it is impossible is a bit of an innacurate staatement.

Granted, ISIS have no exports (yet) with which to "trade" and henceforth, legitimise their newly minted currency with - however, that could change with time - we all know that ISIS have control of their territories resources, be they oil - or heroine, yes, heroine - a commodity the west greatly desires.

I say, instead of claiming it's impossible - sit back and enjoy the show. :)

For the record, I do not support ISIS.

Scimi
 
I do see IS releasing this currency, they have captured tons of gold from banks in the city of Mosul, and released pictures of it also. I do think they will trade it with oil smugglers, but don't know how it works out for their gas reserves.

I don't think IS survives on heroine, unless you can show me otherwise. They have no need for it, and there are other groups who are doing that job including the pkk.

Now to think of it, isn't it ' interesting ' that IS has gained support and has estabilished itself in egypt, syria and iraq?


Bro Scimi, do you have time for a talk tonight? free day tommorow, so will have enough time insha'Allah
 
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I forgot to mention these:

They're a little reminder of how the satanists are trying to enslave u.


 
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my-brother-went-to-zimbabwe-and-all-he-got-me-was-100-trillion-dollars


Standing on the street in Victoria Falls, Chris Namotolo showed me how bad the situation had gotten in 2008 by holding Zim dollars to the light.
*The bills leading up to $100 trillion (100,000,000,000,000), he explained, had no watermark.*At one point, the money became so worthless that the government started skimping on the paper they used to print it.
As Namotolo recounted it, when the hundred trillion note came out,you could go shop for one month’s groceries. But as time went on, maybe after a day, you could buy two loaves. Prices were changing almost every hour.

.....Three years later, the trade for Zim dollars turned on tourists’ reliable fascination with Zimbabwe’s economic demise, and on the reluctant disillusionment of thousands of civil servants and farmers living in the countryside. These are Namotolo’s suppliers, people who saw their life savings evaporate during the inflation crisis.

As inflation skyrocketed in 2007 and 2008, teachers’ pensions became worthless overnight, and, stacks of large bills hidden under mattresses shrankto the equivalent of so many pennies, or even less.

https://medium.com/african-makers/m...-got-me-was-100-trillion-dollars-1b94cf1916b7




I'm now wondering what use gold is going to be when the usurers hold most of the bullion in reserves and are able to manipulate (release and rebuy) it at whim.
Looks like faith in Allah is essential and storable food will hold value when the hyper-mega inflation from the stalled 2008 collapse reaches street level circulation.
All those conjured trillions in stupid futures derivatives are going to go down with the fake stock market too.

And Allah knows best.

If a bull's head is worth 100 dinars, 425g (almost half a kilo) of 22k gold, it indicates that the gold is released/flooded on the markets by then, the food is obviously scarce.
 
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something sounds really suspicious here:

The group said its 21-carat 1-diar coin weighs 4.25 grams,
while the 21-carat five-dinar coin weighs double that.
Three dominations of silver dirhams and two of copper coins were minted*for smaller transactions, it said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-gold-coins-are-a-steal-as-throwback-currency
<1+<1=<5? well sort of.......though it doesn't since the "<" denotes a constant 21k in place of 22k.
that beats orwell!
then again, winston got a share of unpleasant surprises when he, out of naive eagerness joined the "brotherhood" which was a false setup by "the party", it turned out that o'brien was set up as his commander and leader of "the resistance" only to ruin any attempt at revolution.
I believe in Allah and disbelieve myself!
no wonder that blind dude was black with curly hair and was leaning on the shoulders of two guys with long beards.
I bear witness that there is no god but Almighty God, and i bear witness that Muhammad is the servant and messenger of Almighty God.

this perversion of the gold standard and adoption of mutaffifeen standard would be a usurious manipulation only comparable to the word dejal.
i know Obama and his kafir and munafiq allies have been setting the region up for turmoil but this would be absolute proof of brazen mass deception.

Dajjāl*is an adjective of Syriac origin.[2]It is also a common Arabic word (دجال) whose root is*dajl*meaning "lie" or "deception".*
Al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl, with the definite article*al-*("the"), refers to "the deceiving Messiah", a specific end-of times deceiver. The*Dajjāl*is an evil being who will seek to impersonate the true Messiah.
The name Dajjal also is rooted in an Arabic word dajel, which means to gold plate or coat in gold.


from protocols of the learned elders of zion 22:
1 In all that has so far been reported by me to you, I have endeavored to depict with care the secret of what is coming, of what is past, and of what is going on now, rushing into the flood of the great events coming already in the near future, the secret of our relations to the GOYIM and of financial operations.
On this subject there remains still a little for me to add.

2. IN OUR HANDS IS THE GREATEST POWER OF OUR DAY - GOLD: IN TWO DAYS WE CAN PROCURE FROM OUR STOREHOUSES ANY QUANTITY WE MAY PLEASE.

3. Surely there is no need to seek further proof that our rule is predestined by God?

Surely we shall not fail with such wealth to prove that all that evil which for so many centuries we have had to commit has served at the end of ends the cause of true well-being - the bringing of everything into order? Though it be even by the exercise of some violence, yet all the same it will be established.*(The motto of the Freemasons - "Out of Chaos, Order").*We shall contrive to prove that we are benefactors who have restored to the rent and mangled earth the true good and also freedom of the person, and therewith we shall enable it to be enjoyed in peace and quiet, with proper dignity of relations, on the condition, of course, of strict observance of the laws established by us. We shall make plain therewith that freedom does not consist in dissipation and in the right of unbridled license any more than the dignity and force of a man do not consist in the right of everyone to promulgate destructive principles in the nature of freedom of conscience, equality and the like, that freedom of the person in no wise consists in the right to agitate oneself and others by abominable speeches before disorderly mobs, and that true freedom consists in the inviolability of the person who honorably and strictly observes all the laws of life in common, that human dignity is wrapped up in consciousness of the rights and also of the absence of rights of each, and not wholly and solely in fantastic imaginings about the subject of one's EGO.
 
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I don't mean this as a pro-Gaddafi or anything too political, but didn't Gaddafi try to get authentic gold Dinars going as the currency for oil and the USA freaked out (as oil is exchanged in dollars)?
Just trying to remember how it went.
The USA seemed to like him up until that point.
 
wasn't just gold, he was releasing Muslims from prison too, Muslims some of whom it appeared had been used against him by the U.S in their classic false flag deceptions, and who had kept him paranoid of "Islamists" for the most part of a few decades.
He was also very helpful of the Palestinian Muslim cause.
And hated the Arab governments' impotence in their c*sucking of U.S kafir administrations, especially when it came to the fact that they were being forced to accept a worthless paper dollar for a barrel of crude oil.
Bashar Assad seemed to be stepoing on toes when it came to the palestinian issue too, along with the Golan heights issue.
but hey, their allegiance was to factors other than Allah so woe to them, all who betray Allah, hate the truth that He has revealed, and prefer deception and falsehood as a way of life will suffer from calamity after calamity, and so be it.
 
Those who pull the strings of cia and mi5 have a global monopoly on heroin and cocaine rackets so it would only indicate that kafir mercenaries are being used as false flag mascots to do the kuffar's illegal work by proxy:

Washington stunned by attack on US mercenaries in Syria

By Bill Van Auken*3 August 2015..... Friday's attack came a day after the Nusra Front captured the head of Division 30, a Syrian army defector Col. Nadim al-Hasan, and another officer known as Abu Hadi, who was in command of the small band of US-trained fighters who have been funneled back into Syria from Turkey. Another six fighters were also taken prisoner.The Pentagon initially issued carefully worded statements claiming that none of the US-trained fighters had been captured. These claims were dashed by Saturday, when the Syrian Al Qaeda front released a video in which the captured fighters appeared. One of them, speaking to the camera, explained how US trainers had, after a month and a half training in Turkey, provided him and others with M-16 assault rifles and cash and sent them into Syria.......https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/08/03/nusr-a03.html?view=article_mobile

Check out mike rupperts detailed presentation if interested in the subject of cia drug peddlinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU6U7H7Aws


Meet The Obscure Company Behind America’s Syria*Fiasco

A multimillion-dollar deal with a minuscule arms dealer led to the death of a US citizen, delays in arming Syrian rebels, and the purchase of weapons from a pro-Russia dictatorship — all for a pile of defective 30-year-old weapons.

They also illuminate the murky world of arms-dealing contractors behind many of America's efforts to prop up friendly fighting forces. The United States government is one of the biggest buyers of AK-47s and other Russian-designed weapons, pouring them into Iraq, Afghanistan, and other war-torn countries.
The U.S. provides foreign weapons to groups it trains because fighters sometimes prefer them, because they can conceal U.S. links to an operation, and because they are inexpensive. As*BuzzFeed News has reported, the Pentagon and the CIA sometimes use small, untested arms dealers to purchase the weapons.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/the-secret-arms-deal-behind-americas-syria-fiasco#.oavxlqlAog
 
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do u know that one gold dinar =139$
and 5 gold dinares =695$
 

do u know that one gold dinar =139$
and 5 gold dinares =695$

if it weighs two dinars then it is two-dinar weight with 5 dinars stamped upon it.

allaa tatghaw fi al meezan,
wa-aqimul WAZNA bi al qisti walaa tukhsiroo fi al meezan.
God's command in surah al Rahmaan.

8.*In order that ye may not transgress (due) balance.
9.*So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance.
Quran Chapter 55

wa laa TABKHASU annaasa ashyaa-ahum.
Shu'aib pbuh's demand to his people.

85.*To the Madyan people We sent Shu'aib, one of their own brethren: he said: "O my people! worship Allah. Ye have no other god but Him. Now hath come unto you a clear (Sign) from your Lord! Give just measure and weight, nor withhold from the people the things that are their due; and do no mischief on the earth after it has been set in order: that will be best for you, if ye have Faith.
86.*"And squat not on every road, breathing threats, hindering from the path of Allah those who believe in Him, and seeking in it something crooked; But remember how ye were little, and He gave you increase. And hold in your mind's eye what was the end of those who did mischief.
87.*"And if there is a party among you who believes in the message with which I have been sent, and a party which does not believe, hold yourselves in patience until Allah doth decide between us: for He is the best to decide.
Quran Chapter 7

waylull al mutaffifeen
God's curse upon the defrauders who scam on weight.

1.*Woe to those that deal in fraud,
2.*Those who, when they have to receive by measure from men, exact full measure,-3.*But when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due.
4.*Do they not think that they will be called to account?-5.*On a Mighty Day,
6.*A Day when (all) mankind will stand before the Lord of the Worlds?
Quran Chapter 83


anyway, we can't legitimately base gold and silver on dollars when the dollar is a printed piece of faithless paper for which the promise by the united states of america's treasury to repay in silver has been reneged upon and is about to crash due the exhorbitant inflation from the last printing spree to VIRTUALLY stall the financial meltdown.
those conjured and illusory trillions are going to sieve down into society soon because the bigshots are not going to be holding dollars when they see the meltdown from a mile ahead.

metals hold intrinsic value and must be valued on weight, otherwise we might aswell have been printing it on paper and claiming "in God we trust".
your Lord is not one eyed.

obama and his kafir allies got greedy, they were losing credibility on iraq and weren't able to justify pushing so much weaponry into afghanistan and tried to cause chaos in order to resuscitate a flat arms market.
 
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obama and erik prince would be commiting three henious crimes in Allah's sight, first by the fact that they are attempting to deceive everyone on the planet in order to make them dwellers of jahannam and say "innamaa nahnu muslihoon", secondly by paying the mujahideen - who are sacrificing precious blood while patiently perservering in wait for the fulfilment of Allah's promise - less than blackwater contractors and even common u.s soldiers, and thirdly by paying them 2.5 times less by forging haraam coins in order to save on dollars which would buy 2.5 times that amount in gold.
so instead of paying $625, they are effectively attempting to buy gold worth less than 2.5 times that amount and trying to pass it off as legit with a few quranic inscriptions. that's haraam.
they know very well that if they'd shifted it off, nobody in their right mind would give up 5 single dinars for those dodgy 5 dinar coins, and if banned, they would have to be melted and sold for 2.5 times less the price.

my sunnah ten dirham silver coin weighed 30 grams of .999 silver which is one dirham (3gm) times ten.
and my single sunnah gold dinar was 4.2+ grams of 22k gold, not 21k.

the pictures are in the video.
 
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I seek Allah's forgiveness for any mistakes, i think i may have been misled,
the first reports i read consistently read that the five dinar coin weighed the equivalent of two dinar, every single search brought it up.
however all of the recent reports are claiming that it is weight for weight and 5 dinar is 21.25gm
i checked again after i heard anwar in the random playlist reminding us of how the Prophet pbuh got hassan ibn thaabit to memorize hebrew because he couldn't rely on the jews to tell the truth.
please accept my sincere apologies.

Islamic State Flips Gold Coins to Break Fed `Enslavement - ...

www.bloomberg.com › news › articlesMobile-friendly - Aug 29, 2015 -

*In readying for the rollout of*Islamic State'snew money, goldsmiths ... The group said its 21-carat 1-dinar coin*weighs 4.25 grams, while the 21-carat*five-dinar coin weighs double that.


D Alex Millar on Twitter: "ISIS's 5-dinar coin is the same purity ...

https://twitter.com › bitcoin3000 › statusMobile-friendly - Aug 29, 2015 -*
ISIS's 5-dinar coin*is the same purity gold as their 1-dinar coin, but has only twice the*weight.

Austrian Economics Is Now Equivalent To Terrorism Thanks ...

www.zerohedge.com › news › austrian-e...Aug 30, 2015 -*
The*coins*may not be there, but instead*ISIS*released a ... The militant group said its 21-carat 1-dinar coin weighs4.25 ..... So the*5 dinar coin*has only twice as much gold as the 1*dinar*...

5 gold dinars of the Islamic State

Weight:*21,25 g.
Dimensions:*29*2,30 mm.
Metal:*21-carat gold
Used symbol:*World map
Meaning:*Prophecies of the Prophet – may Allah bless and greet Him – about future achievements of His people.*

http://isis-coins.com/5_dinar.php

If only thou couldst see when the guilty ones will bend low their heads before their Lord, (saying) :
"Our Lord! We have seen and we have heard:
Now then send us back (to the world): we will work righteousness: for we do indeed (now) believe."
Quran 82:12


O Messenger! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith;
or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee.
They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!"
If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah.
For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.

Quran 5:41
 
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here's the video going into detail about the history of money, the current situation, and some details regarding the coinage that has been minted, and Allah knows best.

 
Is he a khalifa though? An unknown man cannot suddenly become the caliph of the Muslims.
 

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