islam enemies

[Plato]

Salaam

At this point we need leadership I think the scholars from all communaties should come together and put their diffrences aside, and focus on how to unite the ummah, but sadly I doubt this Will happen any time soon.

this state of affairs is very sad!

 

[Light Of Life]

I just wanted to restate the importance of not advertising anti-Islamic sites. Please, not here or on any other forum. What's the purpose in advertising the sites which are in principle anti-Islamic?

The more you raise people's awareness of such sites, the more traffic and popularity they will gain. That's exactly how they want us to react. I think it will be better to simply ignore these sites. Construct your own sites that challenge the wrong image they portray of Islam, if need be. But try to not popularize these sites.

Thank you.

 

[Plato]

I just wanted to restate the importance of not advertising anti-Islamic sites. Please, not here or on any other forum. What's the purpose in advertising the sites which are in principle anti-Islamic?

The more you raise people's awareness of such sites, the more traffic and popularity they will gain. That's exactly how they want us to react. I think it will be better to simply ignore these sites. Construct your own sites that challenge the wrong image they portray of Islam, if need be. But try to not popularize these sites.

Thank you.

i agree, but my point is diferent! we can't hide and pretend they don't exist! we are in the defensive in this word cyber jihad! we must ridicule their beliefs and assumptions.

we must go on the ofensive!
Pretending that they don't exist while they mercyless refute our arguments is not the way! we must create awereness of this sites and lets us built a body of knowlege built by our intire comunity to fight them!

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

There is no need for us to create specific sites designed to refute only a specific anti-islamic site; instead we can make Islamic sites that refute all allegations against Islam, regardless of which site they are from. This is something we have done on this forum as well, and this is something we will continue to do inshaa'Allah. We don't need to promote their sites for "awareness" - they haven't brought any new arguments, all their arguments have already been refuted by many Islamic Da'wah sites. Please see the following section of the main site:
http://www.load-islam.com/Polemics_&_Rebuttals/

we lack arguments to defend our faith, and other muslims see these lost fights!

Nonsense. It is they who are devoid of arguments and hence cannot produce anything new. The following article refutes 90% of all allegations found on the internet against Islam:
http://www.load-islam.com/C/rebuttals/Misquoted/

 

[Abu Zakariya]

Why waste so much energy on them?

Plato, you almost seem hysterical. Most of their allegations have been refuted, so calm down and focus on memorizing Qur'an, reading tafsir to understand the words of Allah and try to became a good slave of your Lord.
Don't waste your time and energy on these sites.

 

[Plato]

There is no need for us to create specific sites designed to refute only a specific anti-islamic site; instead we can make Islamic sites that refute all allegations against Islam, regardless of which site they are from. This is something we have done on this forum as well, and this is something we will continue to do inshaa'Allah. We don't need to promote their sites for "awareness" - they haven't brought any new arguments, all their arguments have already been refuted by many Islamic Da'wah sites. Please see the following section of the main site:
http://www.load-islam.com/Polemics_&_Rebuttals/


Nonsense. It is they who are devoid of arguments and hence cannot produce anything new. The following article refutes 90% of all allegations found on the internet against Islam:
http://www.load-islam.com/C/rebuttals/Misquoted/

i have seen the rebutals that you shown me in the , i read the 1st one about aisha marry age. and it seems slightly desturbing! 9 year old is a young age to marry and invoke cultural diferences disturbs me and i know it won't wash with many people.

I must consider this. i shall see if they answer in the "-------" site.

 

[Mohsin]

Plato

Theres already a thread here http://www.islamicboard.com/refutations/5337-marriage-aisha-prophet-pbuh.html where its been discussed in loadsa detail, and under the analysis of the society and context of it all, it is clear there is nothing there to talk about. You say it won't wash with people, but yet people still are readily evrting to islam.
Before cheking out that thread read this recent article on islamonline
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544940

 

[Light Of Life]

instead we can make Islamic sites that refute all allegations against Islam, regardless of which site they are from.

I think that is the best way to combat this issue, and it is essentially what I was suggesting. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Originally posted by Plato:
i agree, but my point is diferent! we can't hide and pretend they don't exist! we are in the defensive in this word cyber jihad! we must ridicule their beliefs and assumptions.

we must go on the ofensive!
Pretending that they don't exist while they mercyless refute our arguments is not the way! we must create awereness of this sites and lets us built a body of knowlege built by our intire comunity to fight them!

What makes you believe we're shying from them? There are countless sites that give the correct knowledge required to understand Islam. If anyone wishes to genuinely understand Islam, they will search for the right resources.

I doubt going on the defensive would make a vast difference to the deeply seated prejuidces and flawed opinions that are already firmly held and strongly believed in. In the past, I've argued with similar people, and their opinions almost never changed in favour of Islam. They have a fundamental dislike of Islam, and since it is more acceptable to voice that discomfort recently, they are even more vocal about it.

That's why it's not wise to try to raise people's awareness to their flawed way of thinking, because it's likely that more people will be inclined to agree or lose faith in their religion. Yes, we should try to educate people about Islam, but if we can keep away from interacting with people who want nothing more than to destroy our eman and tarnish our deen, then by all means, we should keep our distance.

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

I must consider this. i shall see if they answer in the "-------" site.

Here's my challenge to you. Pick one specific issue that you wish to discuss, create a topic for it in the appropriate section, and we'll discuss it inshaa'Allah. You'll find that if we discuss the arguments one-by-one it exposes their invalidity and weakness.

 

[snakelegs]

The more you raise people's awareness of such sites, the more traffic and popularity they will gain. That's exactly how they want us to react. I think it will be better to simply ignore these sites.
Thank you.

if only muslims had ignored those cartoons instead of falling right in to the trap..... what if they stopped reacting when deliberately provoked?
something to think about.

 

[Mohsin]

if only muslims had ignored those cartoons instead of falling right in to the trap..... what if they stopped reacting when deliberately provoked?
something to think about.

That's besides the point, when we see somethiong wrong we are meant to stop it. If we hadn't people would have repeated it over and over again as noone would have said anything, but this way people now know how serious it is