Islam has copied (say the Christians and the Jews)

[YusufNoor]

Much of History is hearsay, you are corrrect. I have a degree in History and I know that the writings of Herodotus, Livy (Titus Livius, who I get my board name from), Plutarch and others are merely books of rumors and out and out fabrications. I don't rely on them to be truthful because they are stories passed down generations later. Most likely they contain a mix of truth and fiction.

The same goes with Hadith. The same goes with the Bible.

Scholars have had to debate which Hadith are authentic and which aren't, and even this science can easily get it wrong, as a true Hadith can be dismissed because the scholars didn't believe them enough. As I have already mentioned you also have different Muslims that believe different Hadith, which shows that part of this "science" is simply opinion.



So what percentage, roughly, of hadith were written down when they happened? Or when Muhammad was still alive?

i just wanted to address one point. there is NO difference of opinion "among Muslims!" Shiia use different hadeeth because they are misguided. Shiism is NOT, REPEAT NOT ISLAM! PERIOD!

peace

 

[Insaanah]

Need to add post to closed thread

I know that the writings of Herodotus, Livy (Titus Livius, who I get my board name from), Plutarch and others are merely books of rumors and out and out fabrications. I don't rely on them to be truthful because they are stories passed down generations later.

Which, as I have demonstrated in my posts, ahadeeth aren't.

Most likely they contain a mix of truth and fiction.

Your stories most likely do.

The same goes with the Bible.

Possibly. Some parts of the Bible are of unknown authorship.

The same goes with Hadith.

No it doesn't. Please show me an accepted hadeeth of unknown narration.

As I have already mentioned you also have different Muslims that believe different Hadith, which shows that part of this "science" is simply opinion.

Different Christians believe in different versions of the bible. The Bible must be simply opinion. However, regardless, that has no bearing on the ahadeeth. Whether you like it or not, which you clearly don't, and whether you accept it or not, which you clearly won't, there is no other literature of that era that has undergone such checking for accuracy, validation, scrutiny and with complete traceability.

I would strongly advise you to study hadeeth carefully before passing uninformed comment, as you have done in this post and the last.

And you are still insisting on doing.

An unbiased person cannot help but scoff at the accuracy of such parts of a religion.

You need to show that you have the capability to actually open your mind, be willing to learn, and actually rid yourself of your current bias, otherwise you will never be able to learn, and that is sad indeed.

Peace.