Islam is real threat to church, says Synod member

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Izyan said:
The US government has never protected any religion from anything other than hate crimes.
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In the deep past it has but it is true that in recent history it has distanced itself but to say that it doesn't LEAN toward Christianity would be false.
 
Izyan said:
The US government has never protected any religion from anything other than hate crimes.
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That's true....i didnt know that...but lotsa church accept the case of same sex marriage but still held in church..either Roman Catholic or protestant church...but truly prohibited in islam..by following the law of syariah. i really wonder why...God Religion still accept same sex marriage....
 
MKE Brother said:
In the deep past it has but it is true that in recent history it has distanced itself but to say that it doesn't LEAN toward Christianity would be false.
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Can you give me an example? Thomas Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin were strongly for the seperation of church and state. It even says it in the constitution that there can not be any state sponsored religion.
 
Suffiyan007 said:
That's true....i didnt know that...but lotsa church accept the case of same sex marriage but still held in church..either Roman Catholic or protestant church...but truly prohibited in islam..by following the law of syariah. i really wonder why...God Religion still accept same sex marriage....
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Roman Catholic church? Are you sure? If they are they are going against Vatican law and are risking excommunication. As for Protestants there are a few rogue churches out there. Homosexuality is against the Holy Bible. It does not change.
 
Izyan said:
What is truth and what is Falsehood? What's wrong with inter-faith dialogue?
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how can you have inter-faith dialog when the other side comes up saying your religion is a threat? does this make sense to you? she isnt the first christian to have come up making such comments since the inter faith dialog scheme, you had a catholic priest saying something else. so why should we have inter-faith dialog?

so i say whats the use in inter-faith dialog, in all honesty we Muslims dont need it, Christians need it, Islam is growing everyday, we dont need any dialog, Islamophobia will ALWAYS be here, so whats the use in having this dialog? there is no use, it will simply strengthen Christianity and lead to a status quo where it will become shunned to critisize and speak against Christianity which is what we need to do right now since Christianity is weak.

Truth is Islam, falsehood is all that disagree with Islam.

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The_Prince said:
how can you have inter-faith dialog when the other side comes up saying your religion is a threat? does this make sense to you? she isnt the first christian to have come up making such comments since the inter faith dialog scheme, you had a catholic priest saying something else. so why should we have inter-faith dialog?

so i say whats the use in inter-faith dialog, in all honesty we Muslims dont need it, Christians need it, Islam is growing everyday, we dont need any dialog, Islamophobia will ALWAYS be here, so whats the use in having this dialog? there is no use, it will simply strengthen Christianity and lead to a status quo where it will become shunned to critisize and speak against Christianity which is what we need to do right now since Christianity is weak.

Truth is Islam, falsehood is all that disagree with Islam.

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So there is no need for inter-sect dialogue either since most Sunni's feel like Shia aren't true muslims? Why is it ok when a muslim do or say something outside of Islam it's ok to say well they weren't really muslim but we can say that these people are not indicitive of christianinty. Why is it ok to speak out against christianity? Isn't that Christianphobia?
 
I believe the Christian faith in general, regardless of denomination, is beginning to become a lot less apathetic to what they percieve as their role in the world and in their communities. I'm not that familiar with the British church tradition, at least not in the modern sense, but I would guess they see the threat as demographic in nature. For many, many centuries, western Europe was dominated by the Roman Catholic tradition, and eastern Europe by the Greek Orthodox. As demographics change the role of religion will change. Understandably many Christian leaders are disturbed by this. Not only about changing demographics, but also by the sharp increase in religious apathy in European society.
 
Woodrow said:
Truth is truth. we do pose a threat to those who are not following the teachings of Allaah(swt) and those who are spreading falsehoods.

But, we do not pose any physical or coercive threats.

If the truth is a threat than we are a major threat.
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Reality is not so simple as you try to suggest Woodrow.
Few weeks ago algerian islamic authorities called evangelical christianity as a threat to their country.
 
Izyan said:
So there is no need for inter-sect dialogue either since most Sunni's feel like Shia aren't true muslims? Why is it ok when a muslim do or say something outside of Islam it's ok to say well they weren't really muslim but we can say that these people are not indicitive of christianinty. Why is it ok to speak out against christianity? Isn't that Christianphobia?
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which most Sunnis dont believe Shias arent Muslims? i havent personally met one Sunni Muslim with this opinion, yes there are Sunnis who hold this belief, but they are not in the majority.

Its ok to speak against Christianity because Christians speak against Islam, i never used to speak against Christianity, i knew NOTHING about Christianity, and very little about Islam , then i started seeing so many Christians attacking Islam, so i began to learn my religion, and also began to learn Christianity and speak against it, hence i am reacting only, and i have just gotten started! blame the Christians for creating this monster :D

i dont have Christianphobia at all, if i see a Christian i wont say u evil cross worshiper leave this false faith! i only argue with those who argue against me, if your a Christian who doesnt insult or attack my faith i wont argue against you. but if u are a Christian who does attack my faith then be braced for a very forceful debate-argument beat down. :)

Lastly, i have a Christian LIVING IN MY HOUSE! so how can i have Christianphobia?
 
Aaron85 said:
Reality is not so simple as you try to suggest Woodrow.
Few weeks ago algerian islamic authorities called evangelical christianity as a threat to their country.
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lol which Islamic authority? the same authority who stole the elections when the true Islamic party won?!!!!!!!!!!!! get real man!
 
A few years ago I was watching a debate about very similar topic. One of the speakers said things that are very close to my views. He said that bigger threat to Europe are those called by him as "our own barbarians". Those who are europeans but with hatred to christianity and our tradition, those wh can be easily(too easily?) described as rainbow-green-red alignment.
 
Izyan said:
What evidence? I want to know the truth present your evidence.
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ill give you a small piece of evidence, Allah says while the enmies plan, he plans as well, and is the best of planners.

today you see Islamophobia and attacks against Muslims at an all time high, yet is this diminishing Islam's reach and growth? no! the opposite, what makes this more amazing is that Islam continues to grow and get stronger, and where is it growing and getting stronger? right in the heart of its enemies fortress where most of the Islamophobia is occuring, Europe and the US!

this should be a sign to open anyone eyes to make them think hmmm all this happens, yet they still grow, and get more interest, rather than falling apart and getting weaker, how is that?! The answer is given in the Quran, as you plan, God plans!

more evidence is in the character of Muslims themselves, compare us to any other group of faith, you insult Christianity or any other religion their followers say oh its okay! when you insult a Muslims faith we will not rest until we make you regret it and refute you, and i dont mean physical harm, some will cause physical harm, but they are in a minority. you will say oh this shows none Muslims are more tolerant, nay! rather this shows Muslims have TRUE BELIEF and LOVE for their religion, unlike others who let their religion become a play thing for mockery and stand up comedians.
 
That's pretty shoddy proof

today you see Islamophobia and attacks against Muslims at an all time high, yet is this diminishing Islam's reach and growth? no! the opposite, what makes this more amazing is that Islam continues to grow and get stronger, and where is it growing and getting stronger? right in the heart of its enemies fortress where most of the Islamophobia is occuring, Europe and the US!
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Now let's change a few words:

today(1960's) you see racism and attacks against black people(mostly christians) at an all time high, yet is this diminishing black's reach and growth? no! the opposite, what makes this more amazing is that black people continues to grow and get stronger, and where is it growing and getting stronger? right in the heart of its enemies fortress where most of the racism is occuring, Europe and the US!
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If this is proof that Islam is the truth wouldn't it be the same for christianity and Islam? Potentially by the time next year we could have a black christian president.


more evidence is in the character of Muslims themselves, compare us to any other group of faith, you insult Christianity or any other religion their followers say oh its okay! when you insult a Muslims faith we will not rest until we make you regret it and refute you, and i dont mean physical harm, some will cause physical harm, but they are in a minority. you will say oh this shows none Muslims are more tolerant, nay! rather this shows Muslims have TRUE BELIEF and LOVE for their religion, unlike others who let their religion become a play thing for mockery and stand up comedians
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You must not have heard of Pat Robertson. He is just as fantical about christianity as you are about islam. Let's take a look at another religion, communism. Let's see what would happen to you if you spoke ill of communism in the former soviet union or Cuba. You'd either end up in an re-education camp, a work camp, or with a bullet headache. Your evidence isn't evidence it's opinion.
 
By the way Notsrodemus made predictions about the end times too that appear to be coming true also. Should we hold his works in the same regards as the Quran?
 
Izyan said:
By the way Notsrodemus made predictions about the end times too that appear to be coming true also. Should we hold his works in the same regards as the Quran?
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I predicted the Celtics would win the NBA championshop pre-season last year but I certainly would not say I have the same foresight as Allah, as can be said for Nostradamus
 
i heard that Nostradamus predict that end of the world 2019...i dont know that's true or not...and the NYC 11 sept has been bang by a plane also nostradamus prediction...i believe so so only...50 50...on the clairvoyance..!
 

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