Islam's Answers to World Problems

[Malaikah]

LOL! They were never created to live forever. They were created for us.

 

[rav]

LOL! They were never created to live forever. They were created for us.

Alright, just trying to find the islamic view on this situation. So what happens when something is turned to dust, there soul is obliterated? Does the animal become exactly what an atheist believes he will become after death? Nothing.

 

[Malaikah]

Pretty much- they no longer exist.

What happens to animals in your religion?

(I think we are so of topic:hiding

 

[- Qatada -]

The animals are in this world as a form of test for us, so the guy in the street who kicks a cat in the face will be judged, and the cat will be a witness to what the guy did.

So having the animals there will be a proof instead of simply stating that this person did so and so. For instance we know from a hadith that a woman will go to hellfire because she tied up a cat and never allowed it to eat anything until it starved to death. Whereas we see that a sinning man gave water to a thirsty dog who was about to die, and because of this Allaah forgave him his sins.



Peace.

 

[rav]

The animals are in this world as a form of test for us, so the guy in the street who kicks a cat in the face will be judged, and the cat will be a witness to what the guy did.

So having the animals there will be a proof instead of simply stating that this person did so and so.

Doesn't G-d see and know all? Why is their a need for animals to state what the person did? Even better... what if the animal is a bad animal and lies to get somone in trouble?!? :rollseyes

 

[- Qatada -]

Doesn't G-d see and know all? Why is their a need for animals to state what the person did? Even better... what if the animal is a bad animal and lies to get somone in trouble?!? :rollseyes

Yeah well why doesn't God just send us to hellfire or paradise without this world? It's because we're witnesses to what we did, even though Allaah knows all. We're proof against ourselves, and the animal would actually fear to lie against Allaah.


Peace.

 

[rav]

Yeah well why doesn't God just send us to hellfire or paradise without this world? It's because we're witnesses to what we did, even though Allaah knows all. We're proof against ourselves, and the animal would actually fear to lie against Allaah.


Peace.

Alright, if its your belief you go with it. :X

So just to be clear, animals in your opinion have no worth and were only created to be a witness of the actions of humans and then to be turned into dust, there existance and soul obliterated.

 

[Pygoscelis]

I suddendly feel compelled to spend some quality time with nature. And to hug my dog.

 

[- Qatada -]

Alright, if its your belief you go with it. :X

So just to be clear, animals in your opinion have no worth and were only created to be a witness of the actions of humans and then to be turned into dust, there existance and soul obliterated.

Animals are actually more safer than mankind and jinn because they don't have to be punished in the hellfire, compared to those who reject Allaah and His signs.

Anyway, i would think that you would believe in the resurrection due to the fact that you're a person of the scripture.



Peace.

 

[rav]

Animals are actually more safer than mankind and jinn because they don't have to be punished in the hellfire, compared to those who reject Allaah and His signs.

So being no longer existant is better? Okay.

Anyway, i would think that you would believe in the resurrection due to the fact that you're a person of the scripture.

I am not stating my beliefs, just challenging yours, to try and get the correct opinion.

 

[- Qatada -]

So being no longer existant is better? Okay.

I would rather be something which would simply die than be punished in hellfire forever.

I am not stating my beliefs, just challenging yours, to try and get the correct opinion.

Okay, thanks for your clarification.



Peace.

 

[root]

Both humans and animals will be judged on the Day of Judgement. Humans will then enter either Paradise or Hell. Animals will turn to dust and cease to exist.

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Just because we are both made of flesh and cells and what ever, doesn't mean we were made for the same purpose.

Assuming we was indeed "made" in the first place, how could a God ever control evolution of differing species.

Scientifically speaking, we are similar to dirt, since we are all made of atoms. Do you want to start comparing us to dirt now?

Of course, dirt (and I assume you believe in creation from clay) has no DNA Molecules so I would consider that a massive disadvantage to the dirt. You are free to compare the DNA between a chimp and a human, and additionally between a Human and Human! since you would clearly not be genetically matched to me. (for a start I am slightly bolded, blue eyes and tall) ;-)

 

[- Qatada -]

You think Allaah can't understand His own creation?

Assuming we was indeed "made" in the first place, how could a God ever control evolution of differing species.

Allaah allows animals to breed, that's why we see animals like ligers etc.

Of course, dirt (and I assume you believe in creation from clay) has no DNA Molecules so I would consider that a massive disadvantage to the dirt. You are free to compare the DNA between a chimp and a human, and additionally between a Human and Human! since you would clearly not be genetically matched to me. (for a start I am slightly bolded, blue eyes and tall) ;-)

We believe in a soul aswell, what's the difference between a dead person and someone who's alive? The soul is removed from the body, so its as simple as that.



Peace.

 

[skhalid]

How can any1 judge animals...wen they are part of the same group anyways
We were all created by God....even though each animal has different forms and abilities!!!

 

[root]

Firstly, why am I being subjected to so much censorship, what is the point in debating when the "opposition" cannot have a free say.

skhalid - You think Allaah can't understand His own creation?

You think he can. You have no proof of this, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your position of a creation so what is the point. Who am I to pull the rug from under your blind faith belief.

skhalid - How can any1 judge animals...wen they are part of the same group anyways
We were all created by God....even though each animal has different forms and abilities!!!

Same as above, but hey. Why even respond when you know that I (a kuffr) amd subject to censorship........

Fi_Sabilillah - Allaah allows animals to breed, that's why we see animals like ligers etc

OK, new species comes into a territory and starts killing all the local food, local food evolves by growing bigger legs to run faster (and remember I can prove this, unlike anything you have said to me which is pure sky-god stuff). How could Allah know they would develop bigger legs! (I am really interested in your answer)

Allah knows best is not an answer, it merely tells me "YOU" don't know.

We believe in a soul aswell, what's the difference between a dead person and someone who's alive? The soul is removed from the body, so its as simple as that.

One can believe in a flying teapot orbiting somewhere between the earth and mars, a pink elaphent or even the spaghetti monster. What has truth got to do with belief. Do we not deserve as a species to learn the truth instead of defending old wives tales of various sky-gods.

How can Islam be any answer when it seeks to deny the truth

 

[skhalid]

Excuse me...I dnt mean to be rude...but Humans are animals lol
We are animals...in a group called mammals...sowen u say Humans and Animals...u are separating yourself from the group we all belong to!!!

 

[root]

Excuse me...I dnt mean to be rude...but Humans are animals lol
We are animals...in a group called mammals...sowen u say Humans and Animals...u are separating yourself from the group we all belong to!!!

Who is tht refrenced to, can you use a quote!

 

[Pygoscelis]

I for one am proud to be a mammal. And I see no shame in belonging to the same classification as my dog.

 

[Fishman]

OK, so you consider humans to be seperate from the animal kingdom and god's special creation despite the overwhelming scientific data available to us.

Yes, basically. It's not scientific, and people are wrong if they claim it to be. many things in this world are not scientific. An important French scientist said that, although it can be true, the statement 'I had toast for breakfast' is not scientific. It is something you have to be a Muslim to accept. It's faith based. Muslims believe that apemen and humans are like unicycles and bicycles: they are similar, but not decended from each other. I believe humans are basically God (swt)'s improvement on apes, like how a bicycle is an improvement on a unicycle.

BTW, the data does not say that humans are not special creations, it says that there were ape-men before men, which does not disprove anything other than that there were no ape-men.

 

[Malaikah]

OK, new species comes into a territory and starts killing all the local food, local food evolves by growing bigger legs to run faster (and remember I can prove this, unlike anything you have said to me which is pure sky-god stuff). How could Allah know they would develop bigger legs! (I am really interested in your answer)

Why is it so amazing that He knows? God is by definition All-knowing! Maybe you do not know this, but before God created the heavens and earth, He wrote everything that would happen on a tablet. The developed bigger legs because God wanted it to happen. And He is the one who developed the mechanism by which it will happen.

Honestly man, you're telling me that YOU know that they are going to get bigger legs, and yet you wonder how God can know?!

:rollseyes