Israel = Hitler and even worse

[north_malaysian]

Disagree!!!

 

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as-salam alaykum

well theres a massive consciparcy did hitler even commit all them mascres or was it just an illusion so the jews can get there own state?

wa-salam alaykum

Their is evidence that shows this. I believe this is the case as does Khamanei (ha).

The evidence is never discussed or refuted, people will just go with the propaganda, getting old people to tell stories that you can find flaws in almost each one, they don't have real evidence, the whole chemical story and them turning into ashes is just because there are no mass graves, etc, all thought up to compensate for lack of evidence.

But their are documents showing all kind of evidence about jews getting the ISraeli state before the war, and they will never show this in history classes in the west.

 

[Lamaggad]

Hmm, Hitler was responsible for an estimated 60 million deaths, anyone know how many deaths Israel are responsible for :?

for those who are comparing numbers... I'm not really comparing the numbers... who have killed 500000, will kill 2 million and will kill more than that and keep killing till he dies.. that's really not the issue... we are talking about the acts and the way of killing...
israel is killing people in cold blood just like hitler but in a diff rent way... i hope and pray that they won't kill more than what they have done.

this zionist state have destroyed over 417 Arab villages including all mosques and holy places, killed it's people and kicked them out of their houses.. they have turned most of the mosques in the lands that they have occupied in to bars just to hurt Muslims feelings.
They have burnt Al-Aqssa mosque twice trying to destroy it... have diged under it for useless reasons... they keep blocking the way on the people who wants to go pray Fridays prayers.

those acts to me and many other are even worse than hitler... and it's unforgivable and not any Muslim and not any Arab are going to forgive israel for doing that... and they will come back for revenge just like israel have taken their revenge.

i wonder why are we blames for being mad about those zionist while Jews tem selves never have forgotten what hitler have done to them...?!? answer me lavikor20, how any one can forgive israel for those acts towards Muslims and Arabs?!?!

 

[Lamaggad]

too bad some of those who is posting in here doesn't even know that me and lavikor201 have a good relation and respect each other...

and all what we are debating about is point of views... if you guys are not able to accept my views then tell me that you don't in a decent way and challenge the truth if you can..

if you aren't able to do that.. then basically no need for your pointless posts...

I'm not going to say members names i'm talking about, i guess those specific members know them selves.

thanks for understanding.

 

[lavikor201]

how any one can forgive israel for those acts towards Muslims and Arabs?!?!

maybe you should think. How can the Jewish world ever forgive the Arab World for there intolerance. The first day Israel was created, and the Arabs and Israel were each given a state by the UN the Arabs called for the extermination of the Jews. They wished to kill each any everyone of them.

As the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said. "We will create a new Holocaust, and prove to the Jews that we of Islam should be feared and we have less mercy than the Germans. No one wants the Jew because they are dirt."

How can the jews ever forgive islam after there religious leader in Jerusalem said this. My family is of the 1 million Mizrahi Jews.

Jews that never left Israel!

Over 1 Million Mizrahi Jews in Israel can trace there roots to living in the holy land and practicing Judaism before Islam was created!!!!! How about an apology to them?

November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: ""To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"

The evidence is never discussed or refuted

There is so much evidence it is amazingly easy to refute any Holocaust denyer.

There is so much evidence that the Holocaust happend it is ridiculous. Go see it for yourself in Poland and Germany. The fact that you deny the Holocaust shows your character as a history revisionist... or one who is in a little dream world and can only see the world with his brain washed controled point of view.

 

[Hijrah]

No, read this

"Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide." (Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer page 95-96)

“The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.” –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

 

[abdmez]

To let our emotions take over our brain and to suggest that the Israel is worse than Hitler terrible.

When you make such a bold statement with no factual base you are just making yourself look bad, and proving that you have little control over emotions.

 

[Hijrah]

maybe you should think. How can the Jewish world ever forgive the Arab World for there intolerance. The first day Israel was created, and the Arabs and Israel were each given a state by the UN the Arabs called for the extermination of the Jews. They wished to kill each any everyone of them.

As the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said. "We will create a new Holocaust, and prove to the Jews that we of Islam should be feared and we have less mercy than the Germans. No one wants the Jew because they are dirt."

How can the jews ever forgive islam after there religious leader in Jerusalem said this. My family is of the 1 million Mizrahi Jews.

Jews that never left Israel!

Over 1 Million Mizrahi Jews in Israel can trace there roots to living in the holy land and practicing Judaism before Islam was created!!!!! How about an apology to them?

November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: ""To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"




There is so much evidence it is amazingly easy to refute any Holocaust denyer.

There is so much evidence that the Holocaust happend it is ridiculous. Go see it for yourself in Poland and Germany. The fact that you deny the Holocaust shows your character as a history revisionist... or one who is in a little dream world and can only see the world with his brain washed controled point of view.

They are nowhere near as bad as Hitler but tell me what about the massacres committed by the Jews in those cities when they first started moving in.....

 

[Lamaggad]

The first day Israel was created, and the Arabs and Israel were each given a state by the UN.

if UN have given zionists a state, that doesn't mean that Arabs have approved it... all Arabs and Muslims were against it and STILL against it...

Palestine is not for UN or zionists to be divided between Arabs and Jews... the end of the zionist satate is coming soon since Arabs never approved it and never accepted the UN separation.

UN is like a remote control for zionists so they can control and role over the world... it was never fair with Arabs... if we have the VITO, we would have used it...

 

[abdmez]

if UN have given zionists a state, that doesn't mean that Arabs have approved it... all Arabs and Muslims were against it and STILL against it...

When the Arab Nations joined the UN, they accepted the democracy which was that is a majority of countries vote for the creation of a state than they must accept it.

UN is like a remote control for zionists so they can control and role over the world... it was never fair with Arabs... if we have the VITO, we would have used it...

What is a 'vito'???

If you are refering to the 'veto' than the veto is given to a country that created the UN. Russia, China, UK, USA are all countries that are responsible for the creation of the UN.

I am a Muslim and I also believe Israel has a right to exist, unlike Hamas and other extremists like yourself.

 

[Lamaggad]

Every single person on the first zionist congress was a Jew!

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/opposed.html

 

[Looking4Peace]

wasnt the zionist movement started by athiests as well, this is what i have read from various religious scholar sites of various faiths

 

[Lamaggad]

This guy went out to hitler to buy weapons so he can fight the zionist state that zionists were planning to creat in Palestine at that time... he was looking forward to STOP them before doing it.

another prove that Arabs never approved or accepted the zionist state in Palestine...

we would accept the zionists existence if they would have created their own state in any other country such as Canada and US as they are friends with them and both have so much free space to share... we should not be forced to accept others while don't want to divide our lands and holy places.

 

[Zulkiflim]

maybe you should think. How can the Jewish world ever forgive the Arab World for there intolerance. The first day Israel was created, and the Arabs and Israel were each given a state by the UN the Arabs called for the extermination of the Jews. They wished to kill each any everyone of them.

As the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said. "We will create a new Holocaust, and prove to the Jews that we of Islam should be feared and we have less mercy than the Germans. No one wants the Jew because they are dirt."

How can the jews ever forgive islam after there religious leader in Jerusalem said this. My family is of the 1 million Mizrahi Jews.

Jews that never left Israel!

Over 1 Million Mizrahi Jews in Israel can trace there roots to living in the holy land and practicing Judaism before Islam was created!!!!! How about an apology to them?

November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: ""To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"




There is so much evidence it is amazingly easy to refute any Holocaust denyer.

There is so much evidence that the Holocaust happend it is ridiculous. Go see it for yourself in Poland and Germany. The fact that you deny the Holocaust shows your character as a history revisionist... or one who is in a little dream world and can only see the world with his brain washed controled point of view.

Salaam,

As you like to rehash history then pls azk yourself,what was the first act by Jews who entered palestine?

And you assertion that the 1 million jews of your family in palestine and the mufti of jerusalem already show that there were already people in that land.
So tell me,of what right did the UN have to displace the Muslim and Chrsiitan and give the land to jews?

So in the end as you ahve wisely pointed out,it all begin with the creation of Israel....all this bloodshed and hatered..

All becasue of Israel.
Would you rahter want peace in palestine under muslim rule when Jews christians and muslim lived in peace..
Or would you rahter continue to deprive muslima dn chrsitian their holy places and their land just so that you can have your messiah and temple?

At what cost to arabs muslim and christian will it suffice for you?

To that end,the war will end one way or another,Allah is the best of planners,as Israel tries to murder arabs women ,but muslim will still strive.

As another post said,more and converting and more of them are women.,Inshallah,Isreal will be a coutnry by muslim to protect jews and chrisitan.,.

 

[mlsh27]

Can't you all agree to disagree because all you are doing is going back and forth and back and forth and..I think you get the picture. I doubt that any of you will change your mind, so is this thread still here? It sounds like a broken record.

 

[Woodrow]

Quite a few of the posts have gone way off topic. I am now begining the process of deleting the post that are definetly off topic and a few that are not so much off topic, but refer back to off topic posts.

Because there are so many posts involved, I am not sending my usual explanation PM to each poster, as to why the post is deleted.

 

[Sis786]

I never get the Question but i see loads of similarties i mean both are blood hungry yet i dont think the Israelis would like being compared to Hitler!

 

[SirZubair]

i dont think the Israelis would like being compared to Hitler!

Rightfully so.

Just as every muslim wouldn't want to compared to Usama Bin Laden. Except for our lovely pro-jihad posters ofcourse.

 

[Sis786]

Rightfully so.

Just as every muslim wouldn't want to compared to Usama Bin Laden. Except for our lovely pro-jihad posters ofcourse.

I was thinking more long the lines of Britney Spears and Christine Aguleria... :rollseyes

 

[SirZubair]

I was thinking more long the lines of Britney Spears and Christine Aguleria... :rollseyes

....jessica simpson and natalie imbruglia