Israel = Hitler and even worse

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i wasnt alive to witness the time of hitler but im alive to witness the time of israel's unjust destruction. It seems like there out to kill whoever they can get there hands on, UNLIKE HITLER they dont make there enemies clear. Hitler clearly wanted all jews dead, but we arent going to have israel announcing there desire to see a world without muslims are we :rollseyes


i base my opinion on the probability that israelli's are zionists at large !

 

[Geronimo]

This guy went out to hitler to buy weapons so he can fight the zionist state that zionists were planning to creat in Palestine at that time... he was looking forward to STOP them before doing it.

another prove that Arabs never approved or accepted the zionist state in Palestine...

we would accept the zionists existence if they would have created their own state in any other country such as Canada and US as they are friends with them and both have so much free space to share... we should not be forced to accept others while don't want to divide our lands and holy places.

No he went there to help get rid of all the Jew. Al-Husyani had led riots against jews prior to seeing hitler. He begged Hitler to let him join the SS:

Upon al-Husayni's arrival in Europe, he met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941 and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Earlier, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing a clause:

Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.

When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a trade prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt concentration camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled

Among the sabotage al-Husayni organized was an attempted chemical warfare assault on the second largest and predominantly Jewish city in Palestine, Tel Aviv. Five parachutists were sent with a toxin to dump into the water system. The police caught the infiltrators in a cave near Jericho, and according to Jericho district police commander Fayiz Bey Idrissi, "The laboratory report stated that each container held enough poison to kill 25,000 people, and there were at least ten containers."

Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Minstry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [6] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem".[[7] According to the German researchers Husayni was a prime example of how Arabs and Nazis became friends out of a hatred of Jews. Al-Husseini had met several times with Adolf Eichmann[8], Adolf Hitler's chief architect of the Holocaust [4]

 

[Geronimo]

Salaam,

As you like to rehash history then pls azk yourself,what was the first act by Jews who entered palestine?

And you assertion that the 1 million jews of your family in palestine and the mufti of jerusalem already show that there were already people in that land.
So tell me,of what right did the UN have to displace the Muslim and Chrsiitan and give the land to jews?

So in the end as you ahve wisely pointed out,it all begin with the creation of Israel....all this bloodshed and hatered..

All becasue of Israel.
Would you rahter want peace in palestine under muslim rule when Jews christians and muslim lived in peace..
Or would you rahter continue to deprive muslima dn chrsitian their holy places and their land just so that you can have your messiah and temple?

At what cost to arabs muslim and christian will it suffice for you?

To that end,the war will end one way or another,Allah is the best of planners,as Israel tries to murder arabs women ,but muslim will still strive.

As another post said,more and converting and more of them are women.,Inshallah,Isreal will be a coutnry by muslim to protect jews and chrisitan.,.

Umm they didn't live in peace. Al-Husyani and Irgun were established well before Israel became a state.

 

[Geronimo]

i hope you read my posts above..Israel encouraged the arabs to stay? what did Ben Gurion your first president say?..he said 'drive the arabs out'

but its cool if you choose to ignore..the history books are out there and ive quoted from them

I think history books say otherwise:
http://www.varchive.org/obs/481130.htm

Large numbers of the Arab population fled the newly-created Jewish State during the Palestinian exodus. Many historians suggest that the Palestinians fled due to orders from Arab generals. Many Palestinians left under the belief that the Arab armies would prevail and they would return.[8] Moreover, Israel offered many of the Palestinians an opportunity to live and take citizenship in Israel, but many refused

 

[Geronimo]

google chinese jews..believe me there are such a people as CHINESE JEWS..

and these jews want the whole world to think all of them are the descendants of the ancient Israelites.

how is a blonde haired blueeyed pasty skinned european a direct descendant of the ancient Israelites..is beyond me

truth is this..many people throughout the world who were practioners of polythiestic and pagan religions became attracted to the strict monotheism of Judaism..hence they converted to it..this explains the phenomenon of Chinese jews, european jews, South Indian jews etc..these people are the direct descendants of those converts to Judaism.

its strange that jews today say no one converted to Judaism..so im asking Lavikor this..do you deny that many people inside Isrel who call themselves jews maybe the descendants of converts to Judaism...do you deny that people converted to this religion?

There are black Jews in Africa so what? There were many tribes of Jews that had different characteristics including the lost tribes (the one in Africa is a lost tribe). People in that area can be of any skin color.

 

[scentsofjannah]

I think history books say otherwise:
http://www.varchive.org/obs/481130.htm

Large numbers of the Arab population fled the newly-created Jewish State during the Palestinian exodus. Many historians suggest that the Palestinians fled due to orders from Arab generals. Many Palestinians left under the belief that the Arab armies would prevail and they would return.[8] Moreover, Israel offered many of the Palestinians an opportunity to live and take citizenship in Israel, but many refused

This shows you havent read the posts above..don continue to parrot Israeli and Colonial propaganda

Arab orders to evacuate nonexistent

"The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) monitored all Middle Eastern broadcasts throughout 1948 was ‘self-inspired’. The records, and companion ones by a United States monitoring unit, can be seen at the British museum… There was not a single order or appeal, or suggestion about evacuation from Palestine, from any Arab radio station, inside or outside Palestine, in 1948. There is a repeated monitored record of Arab appeals, even flat orders, to the civilians of Palestine to stay put."

Erskine Childers, British researcher,
quoted in Sami Hadawi, Biter Harvest

Also im reposting what i said earlier ..for some of the 'feeble' members of this forum like Gerinimo

Expulsion of the Arab population of Palestine

"Joseph Weitz was the director of the Jewish National Land Fund… On December 19, 1940, he wrote: ‘It must be clear that there is no room for both peoples in this country… The Zionist enterprise so far… has been fine and good in its own time, and could do with ‘land buying’ – but this will not bring about the state of Israel; that must come all at once, in the manner of a salvation (this is the secret of the Messianic idea); and there is no way besides transferring the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to transfer them all; except maybe for Bethlehem, Nazareth and Old Jerusalem, we must not leave a single village, not as single tribe’…There were literally hundreds of such statements made by Zionists."

Palestinian Christian ,Edward Said , in "The Question of Palestine."
Expulsion – continued

"Ben- Gurion clearly wanted as few Arabs as possible to remain in the Jewish state. He hoped to see them flee. He said as much to his colleagues and aides in meetings in August, September and October [1948]. But no [general] expulsion policy was ever enunciated and Ben-Gurion always refrained from issuing clear or written expulsion orders; he preferred that his generals ‘understand’ what he wanted done. He wished to avoid going down in history as the ‘great expeller’ and he did not want the Israeli government to be implicated in a morally questionable policy…But while there was no ‘expulsion policy’, the July and October [1948] offensives were characterized by far more expulsions and, indeed, brutality towards Arab civilians than the first half of the war."

Benny Morris, "The Birth of the
Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949.


Didn’t the Palestinians leave their homes voluntarily during the 1948 war?

"Israeli propaganda has largely relinquished the claim that the Palestinian exodus of 1948 was ‘self-inspired’. Official circles implicitly concede that the Arab population fled as a result of Israeli action – whether directly, as in the case of Lydda and Ramleh, or indirectly, due to the panic that and similar actions (the Deir Yassin massacre) inspired in Arab population centers throughout Palestine. However, even though the historical record has been grudgingly set straight, the Israeli establishment still refuses to accept moral or political responsibility for the refugee problem it – or its predecessors – actively created."

Peretz Kidron, quoted in "Blaming The Victims,"
ed. Said and Hitchens.

Expulsion – continued
"That Ben Gurion`s ultimate aim was to evacuate as much of the Arab population as possible from the Jewish state can hardly be doubted, if only from the variety of means he employed to achieve this purpose…most decisively, the destruction of whole villages and the eviction of their inhabitants …even [if] they had not participated in the war and had stayed in Israel hoping to live in peace and equality, as promised in the Declaration of Independence."

Israeli author, Sinha Flapan, "The Birth Of Israel"

http://www.zmag.org/content/Mideast/jewsfjustice.cfm

 

[Nablus]

Israel doesnt have alike for her

Israel and united States are the same coin they evacuated the original citizens from their land

 

[nennar]

Israel doesnt have alike for her

Israel and united States are the same coin they evacuated the original citizens from their land

you are so right!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Geronimo]

The records, and companion ones by a United States monitoring unit, can be seen at the British museum

If you would have went to the link it's a newspaper article from 1948 from the NY Times. Are they lying now?

 

[Geronimo]

Israel doesnt have alike for her

Israel and united States are the same coin they evacuated the original citizens from their land

Um no. My people sold them the land. At the time we thought we got the better of the deal because we figured you couldn't own the land anymore than you could own the sky. The only presidents that were trully horrible to us was Van Buren and Jackson.

 

[scentsofjannah]

to make way for the jews there was a neccessity to vacate the land....ethnic cleansing was a prerequisite for the establishment of the 'jewish' nation..and the state had to be a state for only JEWS..Gerinimo needs to get that into his head.

but Israel exists now..its a reality..we're not saying to all the jews who were born and bred there to suddenly pack up No what we're saying is give up the occupied territories..release all the innocent prisoners in Israeli jails ( 8000 in total some 400 children also are held there) and many prisoners didnt even stand trial to prove their innocence

the refugees should return too as the U.N said in many of its resolutions.

a free Palestinian State can be established.

 

[Geronimo]

to make way for the jews there was a neccessity to vacate the land....ethnic cleansing was a prerequisite for the establishment of the 'jewish' nation..and the state had to be a state for only JEWS..Gerinimo needs to get that into his head.

but Israel exists now..its a reality..we're not saying to all the jews who were born and bred there to suddenly pack up No what we're saying is give up the occupied territories..release all the innocent prisoners in Israeli jails ( 8000 in total some 400 children also are held there) and many prisoners didnt even stand trial to prove their innocence

the refugees should return too as the U.N said in many of its resolutions.

a free Palestinian State can be established.

There are Israeli Arabs in the Israeli Parliament so right there your arguments of it being only Jews falls apart. I say you can have Israel back as soona as you give Pakistan back and give up all claims to Indonesia and Spain. I think that's a fair trade.

 

[scentsofjannah]

There are Israeli Arabs in the Israeli Parliament so right there your arguments of it being only Jews falls apart. I say you can have Israel back as soona as you give Pakistan back and give up all claims to Indonesia and Spain. I think that's a fair trade.

when did i ever deny there are Palestinians INSIDE israel? i said Israel was a state for jews only..it was created for that purpose and yes most of the arabs call themselves Palestinians (except for the druze)..including the Minister in the Israeli Knesset AZMI BSHARA..he said 'its not us that went to Israel..its Israel that came to us'

Israel exists this is a fact..we can only pray that what ever remains of the Palestinian territories are liberated..this is in Israel's interests too as many people including many jews within Israel and abroad are becoming fed up with the occupation.

InshaAllah a day will come when Arab Muslim or Arab Christian, as well as Jews can live together in peace and harmony..its important you become a voice of goodwill and compassion and a force for good.

 

[scentsofjannah]

I'm asking Gerinimo

is ending the occupation too much to ask?

 

[Geronimo]

I'm asking Gerinimo

is ending the occupation too much to ask?

Depends on what you consider occupation

 

[Geronimo]

when did i ever deny there are Palestinians INSIDE israel? i said Israel was a state for jews only..it was created for that purpose and yes most of the arabs call themselves Palestinians (except for the druze)..including the Minister in the Israeli Knesset AZMI BSHARA..he said 'its not us that went to Israel..its Israel that came to us'

Israel exists this is a fact..we can only pray that what ever remains of the Palestinian territories are liberated..this is in Israel's interests too as many people including many jews within Israel and abroad are becoming fed up with the occupation.

InshaAllah a day will come when Arab Muslim or Arab Christian, as well as Jews can live together in peace and harmony..its important you become a voice of goodwill and compassion and a force for good.

There's an Isreali Arab right here on this board and I've never seen him call himself a palestinian.

 

[lavikor201]

Is there a minister of congress that is Jewish in any of the Muslim states? Of course not. Only in Israel will you find a country that elects leaders so equaly and not based on religion.

 

[Lamaggad]

yo people... you are ruining my thread ....

why do we have to discuss that such stuff in this thread...

Please read my note i have posted about this thread as people in here and opening more doors just to blame Islam, Arabs, Palestinian... etc. to prove to us that israel is allways a poor victim.

Please stop

 

[lavikor201]

We are ruining your thread which makes the illogical claim that Israel = Hitler?

The statement that Israel = Hitler not only has no factual base, but would probably get you into an insane assylum in most countries.

 

[Lamaggad]

Is there a minister of congress that is Jewish in any of the Muslim states? Of course not. Only in Israel will you find a country that elects leaders so equaly and not based on religion.

oh yeah... Arabs are only in the Knesset and they are always against what your government does, but NO body listnes to them and the votes are always against those Arabs.

so they are only there so just people like you can post such statements trying to prove that israel is fair...

any way we don't really have to disscuss this here, the thing of this radical state is diffrent than any other Muslim country which you can't compare between them what so ever.